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Posted on 11/03/2009 8:11:26 PM PST by Steelfish
Obama's Half Brother Recalls Their Abusive Father
November 3, 2009
China (AP) -- President Barack Obama's half brother has broken his media silence to discuss his new novel -- the semi-autobiographical story of an abusive parent patterned on their late father, the mostly absent figure Obama wrote about in his own memoir.
In his first interview, Mark Ndesandjo told The Associated Press that he wrote ''Nairobi to Shenzhen'' in part to raise awareness of domestic violence.
''My father beat my mother and my father beat me, and you don't do that,'' said Ndesandjo, whose mother, Ruth Nidesand, was Barack Obama Sr.'s third wife. ''It's something which I think affected me for a long time, and it's something that I've just recently come to terms with.''
Like his novel's main character, Ndesandjo had an American mother who is Jewish and who divorced his Kenyan father. The novel, which goes on sale Wednesday by the self-publishing company Aventine Press, is one of several books in the works by relatives of the president.
President Obama's parents separated two years after he was born in Hawaii in 1961. The senior Obama, a Kenyan exchange student, divorced the president's mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, in 1964 and had at least six other children in his native Kenya.
For the past seven years, Ndesandjo has been living in the booming southern Chinese city of Shenzhen, near Hong Kong (snip).
Ndesandjo, who said he attended Obama's inauguration as a family guest, declined to discuss his earliest memories of the president or describe their relationship over the years. However, he said he plans to meet his brother in Beijing when the president makes his first visit to China on Nov. 15-18.
''My plan is to introduce my wife to him. She is his biggest fan,'' he said.
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
aw, a sympathy spot?
Obama gets his a*s kicked in NJ and VA and this story comes out. The poor usurper/illegal alien was beaten by Lo Lo Soetero. What a FU weirdo “family.”
Obama never met his father, except for 1 time when he was about 10. The story about him living with his Father until good old Dad went to Harvard is BS.
I love The Beating These Commie Pricks are Getting Right Now and The Comeing Whale of a Whacking They are Gonna Get!
It sounds like Obama didn’t miss out on much when his father took off.
Last two dem presidents have been products of broken homes.
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Notice that statement wasn't in quotation marks? Obama Senior left Hawaii on the 22nd June, 1962.
If zero was born in August 1961, how old would he have been when his 'father' left?
It's way past time for all the 'journalists' to stop following the timeline of 'Dreams'.
“declined to discuss his earliest memories of the president or describe their relationship over the years”
No one will discuss his early years.
Mark Ndesandjo, The Obammunist's half brother, keeps out of sight until allowed to surface by his handlers, now lives in Red China.
yitbos
“In Kenya, Obama Sr. also had four children with his first wife, Kezia, some of them while he was still married to Nidesand. Nidesand and Obama Sr. eventually divorced amid allegations of domestic abuse. Nidesand returned to the United States and later married a man whose surname Mark Ndesandjo took.”
Or, AP, it appears obvious that Obama Sr had BHO II and the Nidesand boys in not one but two bigamous marriages while he was still married to Kezia!!! How hard is it for a worldwide news organization like AP to investigate whether BHO Sr was ever divorced from Kezia? Kezia is still alive living in the UK and gave interview to the Daily Mail where she claimed that she never divorced BHO Sr and that he was a bigamist! BTW, a bigamous marriage would negate any Obama dual citizenship under the 1948 BNA the way I read it.
“Last two dem presidents have been products of broken homes.”
So was Jerry Ford. Reagan’s dad was essentially an absent drunk, so what.
BO's father was Muslin; they are allowed 4 wives if they can support them.
Perhaps "the newspaper of record" can produce a bona fide Birth Certificate to prove it. But that's a bit too much to ask of them now that they've become the newspaper of lies, fraud, and cover-ups.
The lie again. His parents quite likely separated just before, or just after his birth. Assuming they were ever together to be able to separate.
Cheers!
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Both have authority complexes. I hope Obama can act out against Dad without destroying our capialist economy.
this article makes it quite clear Obama Senior left Hawaii on 22nd June, 1962.
Both had cocaine problems as well as problems telling the truth. At least, to the best of my knowledge, Obama is not a rapist.
Is Mark claiming that or is it the party line? Although he talks rarely, I cannot ever remember Mark claiming he was born in Kenya
"Intensely private, Ndesandjo declined to answer several questions about himself. He even refused to give his age, saying only that ''I'm younger than Barack.''"
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Odd that he would not give his age. I had found some evidence that Mark may have been born in 1964 in U.S. --- but I need to find my post on this. I remember what I found was strong, but not conclusive.
Ok, so the divorce documents we have seen, the '13' pages where number 11 is missing...must have been fakes?
I only bring that up because Stanley Ann instituted the divorce.
But heck, it's the NEW YORK TIMES! Honestly, there's more interesting reading on a cereal packet.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article4406813.ece
“Obama, however, refers to him simply as “my brother” and says he was the only uncontested heir after their father, a Kenyan, died in a car crash in 1982.”
Interesting...
MY STORY: Mark Ndesandjo, one of President Barack Obama's half-siblings, speaks to The Associated Press in Guangzhou, southern China. He is promoting a book based on his experiences of Barack Obama Senior.
Huh... Some grist for the psychiatrists.
Maybe there’s some insight to be had about the root of Ubama’s hatred for the traditional family unit.
I can’t see Obama actually saying that in an interview, but it is in Dreams -— the last passage in chap 16:
“Don’t you ever feel like you might be losing
something?”
Mark put down his knife and fork, and for the first time that afternoon his eyes looked straight into mine.
“I understand what you’re getting at,” he said flatly. “You think that somehow I’m cut off from my roots, that sort of thing.” He wiped his mouth and dropped the napkin onto his plate. “Well, you’re right. At a certain point, I made a decision not to think about who my real father was. He was dead to me even when he was still alive. I knew that he was a drunk and showed no concern for his wife or children. That was enough.”
“It made you mad.”
“Not mad. Just numb.”
“And that doesn’t bother you? Being numb, I mean?”
“Towards him, no. Other things move me. Beethoven’s symphonies. Shakespeare’s sonnets. I know-it’s not what an African is supposed to care about. But who’s to tell me what I should and shouldn’t care about? Understand, I’m not ashamed of being half Kenyan. I just don’t ask myself a lot of questions about what it all means. About who I really am.” He shrugged. “I don’t know. Maybe I should. I can acknowledge the possibility that if I looked more carefully at myself, I would…”
For the briefest moment I sensed Mark hesitate, like a rock climber losing his footing. Then, almost immediately, he regained his composure and waved for the check.
“Who knows?” he said. “What’s certain is that I don’t need the stress. Life’s hard enough without all that excess baggage.”
We stood up to leave, and I insisted on paying the bill. Outside we exchanged addresses and promised to write, with a dishonesty that made my heart ache. When I got home, told Auma how the meeting had gone. She looked away for a moment, then broke out with a short, bitter laugh.
“What’s so funny?”
“I was just thinking about how life is so strange. You know, as soon as the Old Man died, the lawyers contacted all those who might have a claim to the inheritance. Unlike my mum, Ruth has all the documents needed to prove who Mark’s father was. So of all of the Old Man’s kids, Mark’s claim is the only one that’s uncontested.”
Again Auma laughed, and I looked up at the picture hanging on her wall, the same picture pasted inside Ruth’s album, of three brothers and a sister, smiling sweetly for the camera.
Intensely private, Ndesandjo declined to answer several questions about himself. He even refused to give his age, saying only that ‘’I’m younger than Barack.’’
It is very odd he or his deceased brother’s DOB are not available. Maybe those dates blow holes in 0bama’s Dreams timeline.
Proud family: US President Barack Obama greets members of his British and African-based family at the White House following his inauguration, including half-brother Abongo, far left, and stepmother Kezia, in yellow
Pictured on the far left, Abongo Obama, who flew in from the family's ancestral home in Kogelo, western Kenya, just days before, said: "Barack gave us a grand tour of the White House. It was amazing to be in there with him. This is his new home. He has come a long way."
The 51-year-old accountant, who was best man at the President's wedding, added: "My brother had such a hectic schedule that day but he still took time out for us."
Abongo Obama, 'the 51 year old accountant' is the eldest son who was six years of age when Obama sr supposedly left Kenya in 1959. That makes the eldest son 56 years of age, not 51.
Mark Ndesandjo is in that group but not identified.
you must be talking about the obammie daddie with the aluminum limbs??...the drunk shit!!!
cartoon’s!!!
Yeah, wasnt zero’s putative daddy a drunk who died in a DUI accident?
Jerry Ford had divorced parents??? Are you sure??
Sounds like he merely took an Africanized version of his mother's maiden name.
If he abused one wife, you can bet he abused the other wives.
Dreams of my Father beating me.
Other Obama relatives working on books include a half sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng, daughter of Obama's mother and her second husband, Lolo Soetoro; and Craig Robinson, first lady Michelle Obama's brother.
Soon there'll be enough of these fascinating literary masterpieces for "The New York Times Obama Book Club." mmmm-mmmm-mmmm
I think more details will be coming out on the serious psychological character pathology sustained by the big O as a result of growing up without a father and being raised mainly by women. He longs to know how a man is supposed to act. He is seething with rage inside at having been abandoned by his father. So who does he align with? Men who use him to advance their own political agendas and get away with it by making him feel accepted as a man by men: Alinsky, Rev Wright, Axelrod. He expresses his anger by getting back at strong successful men - like doctors, bankers, captains of industry, wall street brokers whom he imagine have all the advantages that he never had - most notably a father. The only way he can satisfy himself is by depriving strong and accomplished men from what they have earned using the power of government. Look back in history to how many men who became abusers of power - tyrants - experienced serious father loss and too much of an influence of women in their adolescence. These types self-destruct because there is not enough power in the world to bring father back and to heal the pain. Meanwhile the question for the rest of the country is what will we do to keep ourselves from being terrorized
Name: Mark O Ndesandjo
Birth Date: Nov 1965
Phone Number: 665-2826
Address: 2243 19th Av, San Francisco, California 94116-0801 (1993)
[Pob 142, Palo Alto, California 94302-0101 (1990)]
[672 Chiquita Front House Av, Mountain View, California 94041]
Name: Mark Ndesandjo
City: Bayonne
State: New Jersey
Zip Code: 07002
Phone Number: 201-858-3527
Residence Years: 1997
Are you saying that Obama II, if born in Hawaii, had only one parent US citizen and did not become a British citizen at birth?
Read that a few times and let it sink in. Sheesh.
I also don't believe it can be stated with certainty that the illegitimate child of a bigamous marriage with a US citizen mother born on US soil, but with a foreign citizen father is or is not a “natural born citizen.”
It appears that Kezia did not consider herself to have been in a legally sanctioned Muslim marriage and their tribe, the Luo, were not traditionally Muslim. Kezia considered BHO Sr to have been a bigamist.
BHO Sr’s father appears to have gone outside the traditional non-Muslim colonial Christian background of his upbringing as a political protest against the British, much like the Black Muslims in the US.
From Wiki:
Religious customs
The Luo traditionally believed in an afterlife and a supreme creator, whom they called Nyasaye, and had a strong ancestor cult. Today the vast majority of Kenya Luo are Christians, while a few are Muslim.[6]
Marriage customs
Historically, couples were introduced to each other by matchmakers, but this is also not common now. The Luo frequently marry outside the tribe, although it is not recommended by the council of elders. The traditional marriage ceremony takes place in two parts, both involving the payment of a bride price by the groom. The first ceremony, the Ayie, involves a payment of money to the mother of the bride; the second stage involves giving cattle to her father. Often these two steps are carried out at the same time, and as many modern Luos are Christians, a church ceremony often follows.
It’s certainly a shame that Hawaii’s Department of Health would not even let his own mother have a copy of that secret birth certificate.
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FWIW - have only found one source for the info below, so it is NOT confirmed: The following is consolidated from posts I posted on this thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2353627/posts?page=268#229
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I asked because I think there might be (unconfirmed) evidence that BHO, Sr married third wife Ruth in 1964 in Mass.
If so, it might explain the necessity for the divorce, which became final in Mar 1964 (assuming BHO, Sr & Stanley Ann were married).
BHO, Sr and Ruth’s son Mark was born in 1964.
Also, according to “Dreams,” Mark was the uncontested heir to BHO’s Sr’s estate because none of the other children could prove their legal claim to be his offspring. Mark had all the necessary documents.
Ruth says she was married about 7 yrs to BHO, Sr. They might have divorced in 1971. Wondered if that might have had anything to do with the law [polygamy] you are citing (rather than the abuse) & also BHO Sr’s trip to the US that year.
Much speculation here, and even if true, does it tie in anywhere to the subject of our focus.
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Ruth Ndesandjo [re-married name after divorce from Obama]
Personal and Family Information
Ruth Ndesandjo was born ABT 1945 in USA.
Ruth Ndesandjo had 2 marriages/partners. Her 1st husband was Barack Hussein Obama Sr.. They were married FROM 1964 TO 1965 in Massachusetts, USA. Their 2 known children were Mark Ndesandjo and David Ndesandjo.
Her 2nd husband was 2nd husband Nidesand. They were married ABT 1980. Their known child was Joseph Ndesandjo.
http://www.geditcom.com/samples/Obamas/INDIs/II87.html
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Both Ruth & her sons reveal as little as possible and are as vague as they can be.
By the time of BHO’s death, Ruth’s second son, David, was already deceased (died in a motorcycle accident, apparently while living with one of BHO’s half-brothers). Thus the assertion by BHO [in Dreams] that Auma said Mark had uncontested claim to BHO Sr’s estate because he was the only child with documents to prove his relationship to BHO, Sr..
Causes me to think that BHO had to have been contacted by attorneys concerning BHO Sr’s estate -— if he was BHO Sr’s son.
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Re the genealogical link: I do not think they were divorced in Mass (and definitely not in 1965). I think that may refer to when they departed US for Kenya. This source is a bit sloppy.
Ruth said she was married about 7 yrs — which if they were married in 1964, would be about 1971. Did the divorce occur in Kenya or US? do not know.
I have not checked Ruth’s whereabouts that year (1971), but BHO did come to USA, apparently near the end of that year — his only visit with BHO in the US.
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Ruth re-married & had her sons’ names changed (to their present name). She remarried, IIRC, in 1980, or thereabouts.
In Dreams, Ruth asks Barry why his mother did not have his name changed when she remarried. He did not answer her.
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FRED NERKS: well, that opens another possible can of worms doesn’t it? That means, as zero didn’t visit Kenya until several years after the death of Obama Sr, any papers, documents, manuscripts etc...from the Obama Sr ‘estate’ would now be in the possession of Mark Ndesandjo.
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Another thought worth considering:
Barack Jr’s mother, Ann Dunham visited Kenya when Obama Sr died. She met her co-wife, Kezia and they both became great friends.Since then, the Obamas have formed an extraordinary bond, despite their unstable family history and cultural and geographic differences.
http://www.postnewsline.com/2009/01/obamas-pedigree.html
http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/2278969/posts?page=370#370
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