Skip to comments.Defeat in Maine a harsh blow to gay-marriage drive
Posted on 11/04/2009 6:11:55 AM PST by GonzoII
The stars seemed aligned for supporters of gay marriage. They had Maine's governor, legislative leaders and major newspapers on their side, plus a huge edge in campaign funding. So losing a landmark referendum was a devastating blow, for activists in Maine and nationwide.
In an election that had been billed for weeks as too close to call, Maine's often unpredictable voters repealed a state law Tuesday that would have allowed same-sex couples to wed. Gay marriage has now lost in all 31 states in which it has been put to a popular vote a trend that the gay-rights movement had believed it could end in Maine.
"Today's heartbreaking defeat unfortunately shows that lies and fear can still win at the ballot box," said Rea Carey, executive director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force.
With 87 percent of the precincts reporting, gay-marriage foes had 53 percent of the vote. They prevailed in many of Maine's far-flung small towns and lost by a less-than-expected margin in the state's biggest city, Portland.
"The institution of marriage has been preserved in Maine and across the nation," declared Frank Schubert, chief organizer for the winning side.
Attention will now turn to other states, including California where Schubert was an instrumental strategist a year ago in the successful campaign to overturn cost-ordered same-sex marriage.
Gay-rights activists have been planning to go back to the ballot in California, either in 2010 or 2012, in another attempt to legalize gay marriage. But the Maine result was not the victory they had been hoping for to fire up their troops.
Brian Brown of the National Organization for Marriage, a conservative group that steered substantial funds to fight gay marriage in both California and Maine, was
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"Gay marriage has now lost in all 31 states in which it has been put to a popular vote a trend that the gay-rights movement had believed it could end in Maine."
I guess you could say that gay marriage, ummmmm, took it on the chin.
“Thanks be to God!!”
Amen. But you know how it works for these reprobates; make us continue to vote on it until we get it right.
We need a Constitutional Amendment.
Yep, we sure found that out in the last presidential elections.
Was gonna go there but decided to keep it civil. Nope, just ain't gonna go there...
I guess the “6 for 12” (all 6 NE states having gay “marriage” for the 2012 election) strategy ain’t quite there.
They’ll just get married by some back door method.
While this is good news, we’ve seen this before.... Now the lawyers begin their work to try and undo the “will of the people.”
you don’t need “god” in this political debate.
in fact using “god” only diminishes your argument which is what the left is using in court. Since YOU use god this is a religious only isse and the court has to overturn normal marriage.
HOWEVER if you use logical non religious based arguments, the homosexuals have no way to win.
(ie marriage is an institution and society rewards the institution not the individual. ie marrige promotes the future of society)
Domestic partnership, which includes everything but the title "marriage" passed in Washington state yesterday.
In spite of all liberal elites backing it, the people don't want it - and when "put to vote" it loses. Big time. As it should.
Even in California.
The stories of the Win in Maine are being portrayed as dramatic defeats of heroic proportions. Not one positive story in the mix.
I hate the MSM.
Strip away all the emotion, hype and lies.
The gay movement is trying to change Society. When asked, Society declines to be changed.
Evidence in nature is more than sufficient.
Making secular arguments are rooted scientific facts the drive-by media filth does not want to address.
Since the evolutionists, along with other atheists see fit to unfairly target and ridicule creationists, I separate myself from them because their ideals are just as ethereal, if not more so...
Evolution is only possible with HETEROSEXUAL relationships.
The secular standard of mammalian reproductive biology is also confirmed by the book of Genesis.
So, for the more Biblically inclined, please note that any clergyman (like Anglican Bishop Gene Robinson) or any other false Christian who advocates homosexual monogamy is blaspheming the Holy Spirit - in terms of what the Bible says. (This atheist would like to see commentary from our more expert Christian practitioners here on FR about that particular topic of blaspheming the Holy Spirit.)
“a devastating blow”...oh never mind...
I agree with you, although I wouldn’t jettison the moral/religious argument completely.
But, sexual attraction exists for an obvious biological reason. Men and women have complementary parts for an obvious reason. Those are cold, hard facts. Whatever dysfunction causes people of the same sex to try to imitate intercourse, we, as a society, should not embrace it and pretend it is “normal.”
Gay marriage has now lost in all 31 states in which it has been put to a popular vote a trend that the gay-rights movement had believed it could end in Maine.”
0 for 31. Yeah, I guess that is kind of a ‘trend’.
I don’t think it’s a sin - it’s just so damm ridiculous that’s the reason it should not be allowed. It’s silly - it becomes a parody! Have you seen some of these gay marriage pics - pretty freaking oddly hilarious!
lulz, man, I know they are going serious bonkers in Kennebunkport and Ogunquit.
Oh I like your post!...and agree!
God Bless you and thank you, every voter in Maine, who defended marriage!
As I understand my Bible, it’s an ‘abomination to God’.
Sooner or later....the planets will align, and they'll win one. Then they'll be 1 for 48 (or 60, or 100) and will hail this as a "major strategic victory" "signifying a huge shift in society". And Please Ignore the oh-fer 50 or so before.
Where I work, if I fail at something 31 times, the management asks me to stop.
Actually, usually, they ask after the first couple of failures.
Stay away from glory holes, and then you don’t have to worry about “harsh blows.”
We've become immune to "harsh blows"!
I think you HAVE to use God in the argument, but in a legal not religious way. To wit:
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights...That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.”
This is a resounding statement of the importance of the Natural Law and the fact that rights are endowed us by God and NOT by the state. Neither the state nor the people by ANY process can vote themselves a fictitious right to marry a member of the same sex.
Thats how the Maine libs shut down the Maine Yankee nuke plant.
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I totally agree
as soon as his name is put in then it plays into the lefts hand.
I’m not religious as most I know and it boggles the homosexuals/left why I and everyone I know are opposed to it
I totally agree
as soon as his name is put in then it plays into the lefts hand.
I’m not religious as most I know and it boggles the homosexuals/left why I and everyone I know are opposed to it and think it is disugsting
I know most folks who are not religious but are totally opposed to their agenda.
It takes a man and a woman to bring this next generation not two men and that is what nature intended.
therefore what they do is an un-natrual act whether they like that fact or not it is a fact they cannot run away from
Gosh! That's over half of our 57 states!
“Today’s heartbreaking defeat unfortunately shows that lies and fear can still win at the ballot box,” said Rea Carey.....
Ah, so anyone who disagrees with government sponsored lifestyle choices are liars and fear mongers. OK, got it.
Perhaps that's true that they used such an argument, because it's clear they could not say anything negative about homosexual marriage.
I think the state has a real interest in supporting the potentially procreative unit that intends to bond with and raise their own children. They will call that "institution" by SOME name. They use the word "marriage" now, so why not keep it that way to avoid having to change a gazillion records?
The state has no interest whatsoever in how someone gets their jollies whether human or inanimate object. Nor does the state have an interest in whether or not one party is affectionate toward his jolly partner.
Let marriage remain marriage.
Call the other "union" or "uniting." I don't really care. FWIW, there are also reasons why "unitings" are not in society's interest, but they have to do with morality, health, wellness, and actual compassion for misguided souls.
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