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Defeat in Maine a harsh blow to gay-marriage drive
AP via Google ^ | 5 hours ago Nov 4 2009 | DAVID CRARY

Posted on 11/04/2009 6:11:55 AM PST by GonzoII

The stars seemed aligned for supporters of gay marriage. They had Maine's governor, legislative leaders and major newspapers on their side, plus a huge edge in campaign funding. So losing a landmark referendum was a devastating blow, for activists in Maine and nationwide.

In an election that had been billed for weeks as too close to call, Maine's often unpredictable voters repealed a state law Tuesday that would have allowed same-sex couples to wed. Gay marriage has now lost in all 31 states in which it has been put to a popular vote — a trend that the gay-rights movement had believed it could end in Maine.

"Today's heartbreaking defeat unfortunately shows that lies and fear can still win at the ballot box," said Rea Carey, executive director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force.

With 87 percent of the precincts reporting, gay-marriage foes had 53 percent of the vote. They prevailed in many of Maine's far-flung small towns and lost by a less-than-expected margin in the state's biggest city, Portland.

"The institution of marriage has been preserved in Maine and across the nation," declared Frank Schubert, chief organizer for the winning side.

Attention will now turn to other states, including California — where Schubert was an instrumental strategist a year ago in the successful campaign to overturn cost-ordered same-sex marriage.

Gay-rights activists have been planning to go back to the ballot in California, either in 2010 or 2012, in another attempt to legalize gay marriage. But the Maine result was not the victory they had been hoping for to fire up their troops.

Brian Brown of the National Organization for Marriage, a conservative group that steered substantial funds to fight gay marriage in both California and Maine, was

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Maine
KEYWORDS: gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; homosexualmarriage; me2009; moralabsolutes; prop1; protectmarriage; sodomhusseinobama
Thanks be to God!!

"Gay marriage has now lost in all 31 states in which it has been put to a popular vote — a trend that the gay-rights movement had believed it could end in Maine."

1 posted on 11/04/2009 6:11:56 AM PST by GonzoII
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To: GonzoII

I guess you could say that gay marriage, ummmmm, took it on the chin.


2 posted on 11/04/2009 6:12:58 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: GonzoII

“Thanks be to God!!”

Amen. But you know how it works for these reprobates; make us continue to vote on it until we get it right.

We need a Constitutional Amendment.


3 posted on 11/04/2009 6:13:25 AM PST by incredulous joe ("Live Free or Fight")
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To: GonzoII
"Today's heartbreaking defeat unfortunately shows that lies and fear can still win at the ballot box,"

Yep, we sure found that out in the last presidential elections.

4 posted on 11/04/2009 6:14:17 AM PST by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: GonzoII
Harsh blow....

Was gonna go there but decided to keep it civil. Nope, just ain't gonna go there...

5 posted on 11/04/2009 6:14:54 AM PST by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: GonzoII
The stars seemed aligned for supporters of gay marriage.

Ahhhh, but not the CREATOR of those stars!
God's way will always prevail!
6 posted on 11/04/2009 6:15:30 AM PST by bearsgirl90
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To: GonzoII

AMEN!

I guess the “6 for 12” (all 6 NE states having gay “marriage” for the 2012 election) strategy ain’t quite there.


7 posted on 11/04/2009 6:16:44 AM PST by GOPsterinMA ("Henceforth, you shall be known as...'Nobel Obama'".)
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To: randog
Gotta watch out for the
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8 posted on 11/04/2009 6:17:03 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: GonzoII

They’ll just get married by some back door method.


9 posted on 11/04/2009 6:18:06 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: MrB

Kindlings? ;-)


10 posted on 11/04/2009 6:19:07 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: GonzoII

While this is good news, we’ve seen this before.... Now the lawyers begin their work to try and undo the “will of the people.”

Bastards...


11 posted on 11/04/2009 6:19:54 AM PST by RacerXSpeedRacer (Conservatives are showing some strength!!!)
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To: bearsgirl90

you don’t need “god” in this political debate.

in fact using “god” only diminishes your argument which is what the left is using in court. Since YOU use god this is a religious only isse and the court has to overturn normal marriage.

HOWEVER if you use logical non religious based arguments, the homosexuals have no way to win.

(ie marriage is an institution and society rewards the institution not the individual. ie marrige promotes the future of society)


12 posted on 11/04/2009 6:21:46 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: GonzoII
"Gay marriage has now lost in all 31 states in which it has been put to a popular vote — a trend that the gay-rights movement had believed it could end in Maine."

Domestic partnership, which includes everything but the title "marriage" passed in Washington state yesterday.

13 posted on 11/04/2009 6:22:25 AM PST by Fractal Trader
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To: GonzoII

Amen!


14 posted on 11/04/2009 6:28:41 AM PST by Guenevere (....)
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To: GonzoII
Gay marriage has now lost in all 31 states in which it has been put to a popular vote — a trend that the gay-rights movement had believed it could end in Maine.

In spite of all liberal elites backing it, the people don't want it - and when "put to vote" it loses. Big time. As it should.

15 posted on 11/04/2009 6:29:00 AM PST by GOPJ (When I was a child Halloween wasn't a celebration of evil - but a celebration of standing up to evil)
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To: GOPJ
"In spite of all liberal elites backing it, the people don't want it - and when "put to vote" it loses. Big time. As it should. "

Even in California.

16 posted on 11/04/2009 6:31:55 AM PST by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: GonzoII

The stories of the Win in Maine are being portrayed as dramatic defeats of heroic proportions. Not one positive story in the mix.

I hate the MSM.


17 posted on 11/04/2009 6:34:07 AM PST by mlmr (Angry with what leftists are doing to our country, our children and our culture...)
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To: GonzoII
"Gay marriage has now lost in all 31 states"

Strip away all the emotion, hype and lies.

The gay movement is trying to change Society. When asked, Society declines to be changed.

18 posted on 11/04/2009 6:40:10 AM PST by I am Richard Brandon
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To: longtermmemmory
...if you use logical non religious based arguments, the homosexuals have no way to win.

Evidence in nature is more than sufficient.

Making secular arguments are rooted scientific facts the drive-by media filth does not want to address.

Since the evolutionists, along with other atheists see fit to unfairly target and ridicule creationists, I separate myself from them because their ideals are just as ethereal, if not more so...

Evolution is only possible with HETEROSEXUAL relationships.

The secular standard of mammalian reproductive biology is also confirmed by the book of Genesis.

So, for the more Biblically inclined, please note that any clergyman (like Anglican Bishop Gene Robinson) or any other false Christian who advocates homosexual monogamy is blaspheming the Holy Spirit - in terms of what the Bible says. (This atheist would like to see commentary from our more expert Christian practitioners here on FR about that particular topic of blaspheming the Holy Spirit.)

19 posted on 11/04/2009 6:44:52 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: GonzoII

“a devastating blow”...oh never mind...


20 posted on 11/04/2009 6:47:06 AM PST by US Navy Vet
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

I agree with you, although I wouldn’t jettison the moral/religious argument completely.

But, sexual attraction exists for an obvious biological reason. Men and women have complementary parts for an obvious reason. Those are cold, hard facts. Whatever dysfunction causes people of the same sex to try to imitate intercourse, we, as a society, should not embrace it and pretend it is “normal.”


21 posted on 11/04/2009 6:49:39 AM PST by lady lawyer
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To: GonzoII

Gay marriage has now lost in all 31 states in which it has been put to a popular vote — a trend that the gay-rights movement had believed it could end in Maine.”

0 for 31. Yeah, I guess that is kind of a ‘trend’.


22 posted on 11/04/2009 6:53:08 AM PST by Carl LaFong (Experts say experts should be ignored.)
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To: Carl LaFong

I don’t think it’s a sin - it’s just so damm ridiculous that’s the reason it should not be allowed. It’s silly - it becomes a parody! Have you seen some of these gay marriage pics - pretty freaking oddly hilarious!


23 posted on 11/04/2009 7:03:59 AM PST by Mandingo Conservative (Satan was like the first "community organizer", just ask Eve, the first liberal useful idiot!)
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To: GonzoII

lulz, man, I know they are going serious bonkers in Kennebunkport and Ogunquit.


24 posted on 11/04/2009 7:10:27 AM PST by cranked
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To: bearsgirl90

Oh I like your post!...and agree!


25 posted on 11/04/2009 7:10:30 AM PST by Guenevere (....)
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To: GonzoII

God Bless you and thank you, every voter in Maine, who defended marriage!


26 posted on 11/04/2009 7:11:16 AM PST by Freddd (CNN is not credible.)
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To: Fractal Trader
re: Domestic partnership, which includes everything but the title "marriage". . . True, but it's that title of marriage that the gay movement desperately wants. That title gives them "legitimacy" and societal "acceptance".
27 posted on 11/04/2009 7:11:36 AM PST by Nevadan
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To: Mandingo Conservative

As I understand my Bible, it’s an ‘abomination to God’.


28 posted on 11/04/2009 7:12:20 AM PST by Freddd (CNN is not credible.)
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To: Carl LaFong
0 for 31. Yeah, I guess that is kind of a ‘trend’.

Sooner or later....the planets will align, and they'll win one. Then they'll be 1 for 48 (or 60, or 100) and will hail this as a "major strategic victory" "signifying a huge shift in society". And Please Ignore the oh-fer 50 or so before.

Where I work, if I fail at something 31 times, the management asks me to stop.

Actually, usually, they ask after the first couple of failures.

29 posted on 11/04/2009 7:12:30 AM PST by wbill
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To: GonzoII

Stay away from glory holes, and then you don’t have to worry about “harsh blows.”


30 posted on 11/04/2009 7:14:14 AM PST by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: Clemenza
"Stay away from glory holes, and then you don’t have to worry about “harsh blows.”

We've become immune to "harsh blows"!

31 posted on 11/04/2009 7:17:06 AM PST by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: longtermmemmory

I think you HAVE to use God in the argument, but in a legal not religious way. To wit:

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights...That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.”

This is a resounding statement of the importance of the Natural Law and the fact that rights are endowed us by God and NOT by the state. Neither the state nor the people by ANY process can vote themselves a fictitious right to marry a member of the same sex.


32 posted on 11/04/2009 7:17:54 AM PST by Claud
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To: incredulous joe
But you know how it works for these reprobates; make us continue to vote on it until we get it right.

Thats how the Maine libs shut down the Maine Yankee nuke plant.

33 posted on 11/04/2009 8:15:06 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (We're right! We're free! And we'll fight! And you'll seeeeeeee!)
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To: bearsgirl90
The stars seemed aligned for supporters of gay marriage.

Yeah, everything was in alignment except those pesky voters. Damn them!
34 posted on 11/04/2009 8:23:16 AM PST by ConservativeWarrior (In last year's nests, there are no birds this year.)
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35 posted on 11/04/2009 3:41:42 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: longtermmemmory

I totally agree

as soon as his name is put in then it plays into the lefts hand.

I’m not religious as most I know and it boggles the homosexuals/left why I and everyone I know are opposed to it


36 posted on 11/04/2009 4:51:24 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman, end of. -end racism end affirmative action)
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To: longtermmemmory

I totally agree

as soon as his name is put in then it plays into the lefts hand.

I’m not religious as most I know and it boggles the homosexuals/left why I and everyone I know are opposed to it and think it is disugsting


37 posted on 11/04/2009 4:51:34 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman, end of. -end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

agreed

I know most folks who are not religious but are totally opposed to their agenda.

It takes a man and a woman to bring this next generation not two men and that is what nature intended.

therefore what they do is an un-natrual act whether they like that fact or not it is a fact they cannot run away from


38 posted on 11/04/2009 4:54:13 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman, end of. -end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Guenevere
Oh I like your post!...and agree!

Well, thank you very much!
Looks like not everyone did. How will I ever sleep tonight? ;-)
39 posted on 11/04/2009 7:14:55 PM PST by bearsgirl90
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To: GonzoII
Gay marriage has now lost in all 31 states in which it has been put to a popular vote...

Gosh! That's over half of our 57 states!

40 posted on 11/04/2009 8:05:34 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Obama makes Bush his blame czar. --Mark Steyn)
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To: GonzoII

“Today’s heartbreaking defeat unfortunately shows that lies and fear can still win at the ballot box,” said Rea Carey.....

Ah, so anyone who disagrees with government sponsored lifestyle choices are liars and fear mongers. OK, got it.


41 posted on 11/05/2009 5:42:03 AM PST by CSM (Business is too big too fail... Government is too big to succeed... I am too small to matter...)
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To: GonzoII; wagglebee; little jeremiah; scripter; P-Marlowe
Stand for Marriage based many of its campaign ads on claims — disputed by state officials — that the new law would mean "homosexual marriage" would be taught in public schools. That was the same theme used to persuade Californians to reject gay marriage.

Perhaps that's true that they used such an argument, because it's clear they could not say anything negative about homosexual marriage.

I think the state has a real interest in supporting the potentially procreative unit that intends to bond with and raise their own children. They will call that "institution" by SOME name. They use the word "marriage" now, so why not keep it that way to avoid having to change a gazillion records?

The state has no interest whatsoever in how someone gets their jollies whether human or inanimate object. Nor does the state have an interest in whether or not one party is affectionate toward his jolly partner.

Let marriage remain marriage.

Call the other "union" or "uniting." I don't really care. FWIW, there are also reasons why "unitings" are not in society's interest, but they have to do with morality, health, wellness, and actual compassion for misguided souls.

42 posted on 11/05/2009 5:49:57 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support our troops pray for their victory!)
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