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McCain tussles with Palin over whipping up a mob mentality
Times Online ^ | October 12, 2008 | Times Online

Posted on 11/05/2009 7:01:13 AM PST by WalterSkinner

With his electoral prospects fading by the day, Senator John McCain has fallen out with his vice-presidential running mate about the direction of his White House campaign

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections; palin; sarahpalin
A look back at a Times Online article from October of 2008, revealing the ideological problems within the campaign

Sarah Palin was not on the same page as McCain--to her credit

It will be interesting to see how much more she will try to distance herself from supporting the positions McCain embraced

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1 posted on 11/05/2009 7:01:17 AM PST by WalterSkinner
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To: WalterSkinner

palin was too big for mccain to be playing 2nd fiddle


2 posted on 11/05/2009 7:09:14 AM PST by 4rcane
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To: WalterSkinner

McCain was a loser, as we saw. He slept in too many beds to be a conservative. If he had remained a REAL CONSERVATIVE and stood by those values and beliefs, he could have made a difference. He chose not to.

Palin was a major breath of conservative, patriotic, American fresh air. She made the campaign what it was, such as it was.


3 posted on 11/05/2009 7:09:32 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: WalterSkinner
McCain tussles with Palin over whipping up a mob mentality

Translation: Stop exciting the voters. We must remain calmly sedate, like Bush 41 and Bob Dole. Otherwise, we might actually win.

4 posted on 11/05/2009 7:10:08 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (A trade: Conservative Anglicans for Liberal Catholics and a heretic to be named later.)
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To: WalterSkinner

The RINO lost and everybody knows why ...

Palin should hold to the truth.


5 posted on 11/05/2009 7:10:28 AM PST by Tarpon (To destroy the people's liberties, you poison their morals ...)
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To: WalterSkinner

WE shall see exactly what Sarah is made of through the months ahead during lord McCain’s reelection. IF she campaigns for him I won’t pay her any more attention. And NO I am not necessarily expecting her to go to Arizona and campaign against him. I sure won’t complain if she were to but I do not have it a requirement.


6 posted on 11/05/2009 7:14:38 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts
IF she campaigns for him I won’t pay her any more attention

..an excellent point

7 posted on 11/05/2009 7:16:18 AM PST by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: Jeff Chandler

McCain is so McLame and has been such a McPain for so long he needs to be McGone.


8 posted on 11/05/2009 7:16:26 AM PST by PoloSec ( Paul:2Tim2:7Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things.)
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To: 4rcane
Palin was/is strong, but not strong enough to drag that dead moose McCain across the finish line to victory.
9 posted on 11/05/2009 7:17:28 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (America is ailin'-the cure is Palin.)
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To: Just mythoughts

Isn’t there a conservative Republican in Arizona that could run against him in the primary? J.D. Hayworth comes to mind.


10 posted on 11/05/2009 7:19:22 AM PST by kempster
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To: WalterSkinner

The ONLY reason that RINO got as many votes as he did was BECAUSE of Palin. I voted for her.........not him.


11 posted on 11/05/2009 7:22:56 AM PST by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: WalterSkinner

This is what happens when the Media choose the Republican [or Conservative] Candidates.

We
Must
NOT
Allow
The
Media
To
Choose
Our
Conservative
[or Republican]
Candidates
Ever
Again!

The only McCain redeeming value is that he introduced the Voters to Sarah Palin. For that I thank him. Now, he needs to RETIRE from the Senate and go make speeches at rubber-chicken lunches never forgetting Reagan’s 11th Commandment.


12 posted on 11/05/2009 7:23:53 AM PST by HighlyOpinionated (Abortion-Euthanasia kills the very people for whom Social Justice is needed.)
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To: PoloSec

McTrue.


13 posted on 11/05/2009 7:26:01 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (A trade: Conservative Anglicans for Liberal Catholics and a heretic to be named later.)
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To: Dawgreg
I voted for her.........not him

..as a Hunter conservative, that's exactly what I did--I couldn't stand McCain...

14 posted on 11/05/2009 7:26:13 AM PST by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: Tarpon

I am beginning to think Mcain’s running was a sham. They all wanted BO to win, all except Sarah !


15 posted on 11/05/2009 7:26:15 AM PST by Reagan69 (The only thing SHOVEL-READY since BO's stimulus has been MICHAEL JACKSON (tammy bruce))
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To: Reagan69

Naw, McCain is an honorable person, at least I think he is.

It’s the lamestream media, they are the ones that demanded McCain prove he was legible, yet gave Odumbo a pass.


16 posted on 11/05/2009 7:28:52 AM PST by Tarpon (To destroy the people's liberties, you poison their morals ...)
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To: Reagan69
>>> "I am beginning to think Mcain's running was a sham. They all wanted BO to win, all except Sarah !" <<<<

I believe that McCain was in league with BHO, too, but not everyone wanted him to win -- I believe that billionairess Meg Whitman and her multimillionaire pal Mitt seriously believed that Mitt could win the prez election if only he could get the nomination (-- I'm surprised there isn't any news about whatever his position is on her campaign for Governor of California.)

This sounds paranoid, but it's almost like the entire drama was set up to make sure that Governor Palin's career was permanently ruined everthereafter.

They misjudge her resiliance.

17 posted on 11/05/2009 7:36:16 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: HighlyOpinionated
This is what happens when the Media choose the Republican [or Conservative] Candidates.

We
Must
NOT
Allow
The
Media
To
Choose
Our
Conservative
[or Republican]
Candidates
Ever
Again!

The only McCain redeeming value is that he introduced the Voters to Sarah Palin. For that I thank him. Now, he needs to RETIRE from the Senate and go make speeches at rubber-chicken lunches never forgetting Reagan’s 11th Commandment.

Retire!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES ONLY after the Pinko Stooge gets on his Hands and knees and Apologizes to the American People for the damage he has brought on this Country. then the Japanese way of atonement.

then this traitor can be with his ancestors and see Exactly how they feel about his actions with the trust of the people and with a Country they fought For as Hero's!.

18 posted on 11/05/2009 7:38:25 AM PST by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: WalterSkinner

McCain is a stinking RINO like Newt.


19 posted on 11/05/2009 7:43:29 AM PST by Frantzie (Judge David Carter - democrat & dishonorable Marine like John Murtha.)
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To: Dream Warrior

ping!


20 posted on 11/05/2009 7:46:38 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: kempster; All

What kind of realistic chances does Hayworth or any other conservative candidate have of defeating McCain in the primary?


21 posted on 11/05/2009 8:01:51 AM PST by Uncle Ivan (Alea iacta est)
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To: WalterSkinner

there is leading, and there is following.

leaders that allow themselves to follow for too long, lose their knack for it and get timid at the thought of making bold moves

Sarah is leading. John is not.


22 posted on 11/05/2009 8:09:36 AM PST by sten
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To: WalterSkinner
Juan McShame is not now and has never been a Leader !

23 posted on 11/05/2009 8:12:47 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Just mythoughts

“IF she campaigns for him I won’t pay her any more attention.”

I don’t expect McCain to even ask her to campaign for him, he was jealous of being overshadowed by her last year, and I believe it still gets under his skin every time she makes an appearance she gets huge crowds. My bet is that the WI Right to Life event will be maximum capacity, and her book signing tour will generate huge crowds of people, most of them knowing that they have no chance of getting a book signed, they’ll just show up hoping to get a glimpse of her, and that will make his bitterness even deeper.


24 posted on 11/05/2009 8:32:51 AM PST by euram
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To: WalterSkinner

Do we have a primary challenger yet for McCain?


25 posted on 11/05/2009 8:38:23 AM PST by o2bfree (This president is giving me a headache!)
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To: o2bfree
..Chris Simcox was one name that was discussed.
26 posted on 11/05/2009 8:45:58 AM PST by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: Frantzie

No, McCain is a stinking RINO worse than Newt. As a RINO Newt is bad, but he only attempts to provide cover for dems — Hillary, San Fran Nan, Rev. Al, and Scream Dean all come to mind. Juan on the other hand has spawned and provides nurturing cover to many big fat RINOs, underling RINOs Pansy Graham and gay time Charlie Crist are examples of this.

Newt’s cover for the democrats is bad, but at least you know they’re democrats. RINO McCain time and again will pull the wool over some people’s eyes and his underlings have learned the same RINO tricks fooling republicans into believing they are conservative. How else could some one as DIABLO as Pansy ever get elected senator in South Carolina?

Newt may be a RINO but he is no where near the advanced level RINO John McCain.


27 posted on 11/05/2009 8:56:22 AM PST by Waryone (If the democrats paid taxes like the rest of us, the United States wouldn't have a deficit.)
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To: Uncle Ivan

I don’t know. I didn’t believe that Chris Christie could overcome the Democratic machine in New Jersey and win the Governorship. I guess the answer relates to the mother’s milk of Washington D.C. and you know what that is.


28 posted on 11/05/2009 9:05:18 AM PST by kempster
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To: Waryone

LOL! True. Juan McCain is a DIABLO like Graham-nesty.


29 posted on 11/05/2009 9:15:28 AM PST by Frantzie (Judge David Carter - democrat & dishonorable Marine like John Murtha.)
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To: WalterSkinner

I want to see Duncan Hunter in some cabinet position in the next administration...in 2012!:)


30 posted on 11/05/2009 11:52:04 AM PST by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: euram
I don’t expect McCain to even ask her to campaign for him, he was jealous of being overshadowed by her last year, and I believe it still gets under his skin every time she makes an appearance she gets huge crowds. My bet is that the WI Right to Life event will be maximum capacity, and her book signing tour will generate huge crowds of people, most of them knowing that they have no chance of getting a book signed, they’ll just show up hoping to get a glimpse of her, and that will make his bitterness even deeper.

Loyalty is a strange fiber that runs deep through some people regardless of what that loyalty ends up creating/causing.

For me personally I 'love' Sarah to date. However, I know what the word literally means and it will be a 'test' of her individuality as to whether or not she is cognizant of who lord McCain really is.

31 posted on 11/05/2009 12:47:48 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: WalterSkinner

Taking campaign advice from Juan McAmnesty is like taking it from Democrats. He doesn’t know how to win, and they don’t want the R’s do so. So whatever he says, do the opposite.


32 posted on 11/05/2009 6:58:09 PM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Uncle Ivan

In the primary? Pretty good if a known candidate with some money challenges. Right now the only challengers are little-knowns with no money and some with baggage. But if a well known, well funded, and squeaky clean candidate took on McPain I think he’d win the primary. There’s so much dissatisfaction with McLame here, I was surprised to see him win in ‘04.


33 posted on 11/05/2009 7:03:25 PM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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