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Trick-or-treaters mistaken for gang bangers
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 11/5/09 | Henry K. Lee

Posted on 11/05/2009 11:16:57 AM PST by GSWarrior

SAN JOSE -- Three teenagers and a Milpitas man have been arrested in the Halloween shooting and stabbing of two trick-or-treaters in San Jose whom they mistook for rival gang members, police said.

The victims, boys ages 12 and 13, were attacked while trick-or-treating. The younger boy was shot in the head and remains in critical condition. The older boy was stabbed and has been released from a hospital.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: gangs; gangwarfare; hatecrime; murder; violence

1 posted on 11/05/2009 11:16:57 AM PST by GSWarrior
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To: GSWarrior

Stupid gang members and even more stupid parents of the kids who were allowed to go out dressed like that.


2 posted on 11/05/2009 11:18:57 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: GSWarrior

Who is out trick or treating at 10pm? Nevertheless, prayers for the boy that was shot.


3 posted on 11/05/2009 11:21:24 AM PST by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: A CA Guy
even more stupid parents of the kids who were allowed to go out dressed like that.

We don't know how they were dressed.

4 posted on 11/05/2009 11:26:07 AM PST by ansel12 (Scozzafava/Romney 2012)
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To: GSWarrior

No hate crime legislation I’ve ever seen has made ANY reference to discrimination against persons for wearing “the wrong gang colors”.

It should. HATE is the motivator. Can’t wear “BLUE” on my street. Can’t wear “RED” on my street.

Can’t have thugs dictating “ownership” and “terrorial rights” over a street.

But it’s easier to write some revenue tickets than get the gangs off the street.


5 posted on 11/05/2009 11:26:10 AM PST by a fool in paradise (I refuse to "reduce my carbon footprint" all while Lenin remains in an airconditioned shrine)
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To: ansel12

They were dressed wrong enough to be mistaken for gang bangers.


6 posted on 11/05/2009 11:28:14 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

You have no idea, zero, of how the children were dressed that were the victims of this deadly assault.


7 posted on 11/05/2009 11:32:53 AM PST by ansel12 (Scozzafava/Romney 2012)
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To: ansel12

We know they were dressed in such a way that the title of this artucle is called “Trick or treaters mistaken for gang bangers”... Just look up.


8 posted on 11/05/2009 11:37:13 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: GSWarrior

My horrible parents never allowed me to go tricking at halloween. Their motto: we do not want you to beg for candy. Do something useful first and then negotiate to be paid in candy.


9 posted on 11/05/2009 11:37:53 AM PST by 353FMG (Save the Planet -- Erase Socialism)
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

why are 12-13 year olds still allowed to trick or treat?


10 posted on 11/05/2009 11:38:25 AM PST by absolootezer0 (2x divorced, tattooed, pierced, harley hatin, meghan mccain luvin', smoker and pit bull owner..what?)
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To: A CA Guy

Two children get attacked and grievously wounded and you blame the parents?

Seriously?

They did nothing wrong. Their children did nothing wrong. The children were brutally attacked for walking down a street.

Unless people - people like you - stop reflexively blaming the victims of crime, America is doomed.


11 posted on 11/05/2009 11:39:38 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: GSWarrior

I don’t really believe the premise of the shooting. I think the shooters grasped that the holiday would provide a plausible-sounding EXCUSE for a shooting.

These losers want drama, and they got it.

The shooters are less stupid than is thought in this case.


12 posted on 11/05/2009 11:41:09 AM PST by gaijin
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To: a fool in paradise
It gets worse since gangs started adopting certain sports logos in lieu of their colors.

If you wear a baseball cap with the wrong letter on it...

-PJ

13 posted on 11/05/2009 11:43:24 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (Comprehensive congressional reform legislation only yields incomprehensible bills that nobody reads.)
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To: ansel12; All
"We don't know how they were dressed."


14 posted on 11/05/2009 11:44:13 AM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: A CA Guy
I have a special bowl of the most hated candy for the older kids in stupid costumes, or no costume at all. They get NECCO Wafers or Dum Dum Lollipops while the rest of the kids get the good stuff.
This year my Dentist father-in-law gave us a big box of trial size toothpaste to hand out with the candy. Guess who got nothing but toothpaste?
15 posted on 11/05/2009 11:44:15 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: A CA Guy

Read the article . We don’t know how they were dressed.

“Police did not say what led the attackers to conclude the boys were gang members.”

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/11/05/BAQO1AFNF1.DTL&tsp=1#ixzz0W14HBQ02


16 posted on 11/05/2009 11:48:52 AM PST by ansel12 (Scozzafava/Romney 2012)
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To: GSWarrior

Arrest the stupid mayor, he made this stuff possible.


17 posted on 11/05/2009 11:49:17 AM PST by devistate one four (Back by popular demand: America love or leave it (GTFOOMC) TET68)
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To: NavyCanDo

Necco wafers—yuck! That is such a good idea though. Next year I must remember that and hand out those things. There were NO kids trick or treating on my street this year. Just high school aged people and up. Many youths wore no costume. Though I had to wonder if a black hooded sweatshirt is supposed to be some kind of costume. When groups of a half dozen or more show up on the porch, no wonder a lot of people are hesitant to open the door.


18 posted on 11/05/2009 11:53:24 AM PST by TNCMAXQ
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To: A CA Guy

“Stupid gang members and even more stupid parents of the kids who were allowed to go out dressed like that.”

Damn your good! No where in the article was it ever stated what the kids who were attacked were wearing, yet you were able to figure it out! I hope the producers of “Men Who Stare at Goats” hired you as a consultant!


19 posted on 11/05/2009 12:02:25 PM PST by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: ansel12

Well the gang bangers felt they were dressed gang like enough to get stabbed and so forth.
The article gave the criminal reasoning, I take it that it was probably true, I doubt they were dressed like Jon and Kate +8.


20 posted on 11/05/2009 12:02:46 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: NavyCanDo

What, no Christian tracks?


21 posted on 11/05/2009 12:03:45 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: agere_contra
I wouldn't let my children out looking 'gangsta' or dressed as whores, yet there are plenty out their trick-or-treating and when that happens I think that is 100% a fault of parents.
22 posted on 11/05/2009 12:05:29 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: sean327
Look at the title and read the article.

Says they mistook them for gang members.

Guess they weren't wearing a Perez Hilton costume.

23 posted on 11/05/2009 12:13:11 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: GSWarrior

A friend of mine works at a middle school, and one time she showed me the list of wardrobe items that are banned at her school because they indicate you’re in a gang. Much of it is innocent...certain colors, for instance; sports logos or innocent words on T-shirts, skipping a belt loop when you put on your belt or leaving the second button on your shirt unbuttoned. The list has to be constantly updated and revised, as well. With so many silly things supposedly meaning that you’re in a gang, how could anybody keep up with it? Any one of us could be innocently wearing a certain color, or maybe we forgot a loop when we put our belt on this morning. Nowadays you really can’t blame anyone for being mistaken for a gang member! We should have the right to wear whatever we want and walk down the streets, even at night.


24 posted on 11/05/2009 12:15:28 PM PST by Nea Wood (Silly liberal . . . paychecks are for workers!)
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To: A CA Guy

I don’t know what you have against the 12 and 13 trick or treaters but you seem determined to place blame on them and/or their parents and/or Halloween, weird.


25 posted on 11/05/2009 12:19:34 PM PST by ansel12 (Scozzafava/Romney 2012)
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To: GSWarrior

One of many reasons why I think the traditional trick or treat should go by the boards. One of our local communities banned the practice; instead, they have a party for the little kids. Much safer for everyone.


26 posted on 11/05/2009 12:23:55 PM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: a fool in paradise

two words: Sombra Negra

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sombra_Negra


27 posted on 11/05/2009 12:46:23 PM PST by GunsAndBibles (God save Calif. - 'cause it's gonna take a miracle.)
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To: GunsAndBibles

How long before we’ll need our own ?


28 posted on 11/05/2009 1:17:06 PM PST by farlander (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: GSWarrior

Here's one of the little misunderstood darlings.

29 posted on 11/05/2009 1:33:46 PM PST by JOAT
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To: farlander

We needed our own as soon as MS-13 started showing its demonic face here.


30 posted on 11/05/2009 1:36:32 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: GSWarrior

But I thought we had been told diversity makes us stronger.


31 posted on 11/05/2009 1:38:12 PM PST by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: GSWarrior

brings back memories of the beatings I took for wearing that Kooky Spook costume.


32 posted on 11/05/2009 1:54:36 PM PST by MNDude (The Republican Congress Economy--1995-2007)
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To: the_devils_advocate_666
"Who is out trick or treating at 10pm?"

Boys that go out to meet trick-or-treaters dressed as prostitutes. :)

33 posted on 11/05/2009 1:54:55 PM PST by TopQuark
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To: A CA Guy; sean327; agere_contra

“Police said the boys were confronted by a group that mistook them for members of a rival gang.

The 12-year-old was in critical condition after being shot. His friend was treated and released for stab wounds.

Police said they were “not gang members and were not wearing anything on Halloween to indicate they were in a rival gang”. No further details were provided.”

http://www.fresnobee.com/state/story/1700369.html


34 posted on 11/05/2009 6:17:58 PM PST by ansel12 (Scozzafava/Romney 2012)
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To: a fool in paradise

It would help a lot if gang members were forced to walk around only in their BVD’s after any kind of gang related violence. Tighty whiteys-no colored boxers.


35 posted on 11/05/2009 7:07:48 PM PST by huldah1776 ( Worthy is the Lamb)
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