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About 3,600 vaccinated on first day of Dallas County swine flu clinic BUT ONLY FOR UNINSURED!
Dallas Morning News ^ | Nov 5 2009 | SHERRY JACOBSON

Posted on 11/05/2009 12:02:50 PM PST by JohnD9207

Dallas County's first mass distribution of the swine flu vaccine Wednesday tested the patience of thousands of adults and children, who stood outdoors for hours to snag a scarce shot.

SONYA N. HEBERT/DMN Rony Velazquez, 4, waited while his mother, Blanca Medrano (left), and his sister Diana Velazquez were screened before getting their H1N1 shots at the Dallas County Health and Human Services building on Wednesday.But in the end, there was a lot of praise for how well the county dispensed the vaccine.

Despite chilly weather before dawn and intense sun by late morning, almost no one in the line complained about the long but orderly wait.

JIM MAHONEY/DMN Hundreds lined up early Wednesday to try to get the swine flu vaccine, which Dallas County is reserving for uninsured, high-risk groups."This is pretty efficient," said Michael Buxton, a 53-year-old South Dallas resident whose breathing problems sent him in pursuit of the vaccine.

"I waited a couple hours, but it was a lot smoother than it should have been."

JIM MAHONEY/DMN Sixteen-year-old Glenda Castro took care of paperwork while waiting in line on Wednesday.In all, the county inoculated about 3,600 adults and children, using up about a third of its supply of H1N1 vaccine reserved for uninsured, high-risk groups. They include pregnant women, people 6 months to 24 years old and those 25 to 64 years old with chronic illnesses

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: flu; h1n1; influenza; obamacare; publichealth; rationedhealthcare; rationing; swineflu; swinefluvaccine; vaccine; vaccines
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IMAGINE THAT!!!! Tax payers pay for H1N1 vaccine, and its only available to the UNINSURED! So if you are pregnant, or in a high rish group and you cannot get a shot at the hospital, or doctors office...DON'T BOTHER to go to the Dallas County Health Dept for a shot you payed for...you aren't welcome. Boy this socialized medicine is something huh? Too bad we can't opt out of paying for it. Old game NEW RULES!
1 posted on 11/05/2009 12:02:51 PM PST by JohnD9207
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To: JohnD9207

You don’t want that vaccine.


2 posted on 11/05/2009 12:05:06 PM PST by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: JohnD9207

If you are insured; you can go to your own doctor and get the shot.


3 posted on 11/05/2009 12:06:49 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: JohnD9207

What a joke. Go to www.theflucase.com and see if you feel so “deprived” and cheated. The vaccine is UNSAFE and INEFFECTIVE with a very good chance of giving you life long debilities.

You’re not missing a thing by not “having” the swine flu/H1N1 shot. A French doctor calculated that humans have a 50X greater chance of dying from the vaccine than the virus.


4 posted on 11/05/2009 12:09:02 PM PST by bioqubit
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

I’m building immunity the natural way. Yes, I have the oink flu.


5 posted on 11/05/2009 12:09:02 PM PST by rintense (You do not advance conservatism by becoming more liberal. ~ rintense, 2006)
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To: JohnD9207

Did you also have to be illegal?


6 posted on 11/05/2009 12:09:16 PM PST by kcvl
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

Can you explain why please? I think I should get it since my immune system is kinda low. Man when I get sick I get hit pretty hard.


7 posted on 11/05/2009 12:09:25 PM PST by freebird5850 (O-Bomba is not the Messiah. Jesus was a carpenter and could build a cabinet!)
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To: freekitty

And pay all the money for an office visit.


8 posted on 11/05/2009 12:09:47 PM PST by FoxInSocks (B. Hussein Obama: Central Planning Czar)
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To: JohnD9207

Has H1N1 peaked yet? Does anyone know?

Thanks!


9 posted on 11/05/2009 12:11:48 PM PST by roses of sharon (Call the NFL and welcome their new Commissioner, Al Sharpton.)
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To: JohnD9207
Let the have-nots be the Guinea pigs. Every MD I know is not planning to get the H1N1 vaccine for himself
10 posted on 11/05/2009 12:12:37 PM PST by clintonh8r (My country. Not my government.)
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To: All

“dah-duh, dah-duuuuuh....Mindcrime”


11 posted on 11/05/2009 12:16:43 PM PST by Maverick68 (w)
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To: bioqubit
A French doctor calculated that humans have a 50X greater chance of dying from the vaccine than the virus.

Any facts to back that one up? Over a 1,000 Swine Flu deaths in the US as of Oct. 24th.

So, can you produce a source for 50,000 deaths related to the vaccine?

12 posted on 11/05/2009 12:17:33 PM PST by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: freekitty

If you are insured; you can go to your own doctor and get the shot.

***

Maybe. Where I live, there is a shortage. The doctors don’t have it. Word is that we won’t get another shipment till December. I figure if you’re going to get the flu, you’ll have it by then...so what’s the point.

And we want these people to control our overall health care?


13 posted on 11/05/2009 12:17:40 PM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: JohnD9207

It’s some social justice. And discriminatory.


14 posted on 11/05/2009 12:18:11 PM PST by a fool in paradise (I refuse to "reduce my carbon footprint" all while Lenin remains in an airconditioned shrine)
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To: rintense

Did you get tested to confirm it’s H1N1? My doctor said many think or are being diagnosed with H1N1 and many are not actual cases of it.


15 posted on 11/05/2009 12:19:40 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: JohnD9207

I’m not anti-vaccine, but personally, I think you put yourself at the most risk of getting the flu standing in a line with 3,600 other people at a clinic.

If you have a weakened immune system, stay away from crowds like that, and call your doctor.


16 posted on 11/05/2009 12:20:16 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: bioqubit
US swine flu deaths surpass 1,000

Lest you accuse me of not providing a source for the 1,000 US deaths as of Oct. 24, 2009

17 posted on 11/05/2009 12:21:03 PM PST by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: HairOfTheDog

Even if you get the shot today, it will be at least 2 weeks before you have a substancial immunity to the disease. Then, with the vaccine it’s still an odds game. You may have 80% immunity, so you could still get sick (20% chance) but if you do get sick it should be far less severe than what you would have gotten.

Yes, I fully intend to either get the flu, or get the shot. Preferrably the shot. Either way, I’m not afraid of the Swine flu this year. I am terrified of what this strain of influenze could mutate into either next year, or the years down the road.

I’d rather have some immunity to future mutations; than no immunity at all.


18 posted on 11/05/2009 12:25:03 PM PST by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: fatnotlazy

It’s the same here. We cannot get it from our own doctors. They don’t have it. The government is handling the distribution of the vaccine here. Only a few clinics outside of Milwaukee County.

My husband and I are both in the high risk group. But we’ve been bumped out because of our age. Only those in the high risk group under the age of 18 can get it now because of the shortage.

Quite a few vaccines had to be thrown away at a West Allis hospital when a refrigeration system broke down.

We’ve called around at different private healthcare clincs. no one has it.


19 posted on 11/05/2009 12:29:40 PM PST by conservativegranny
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To: Hodar
So, can you produce a source for 50,000 deaths related to the vaccine?

I'm guessing that they can't.

20 posted on 11/05/2009 12:31:13 PM PST by ET(end tyranny)
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To: mojitojoe
No, no test to confirm just a consult. I also had a regular flu shot so they know it isn't the regular kind of flu. But the symptoms are all classic to H1N1. Ottawa County is getting hammered by H1N1 right now. The doctor's offices are overrun. H1N1 has migrated from Kent County over to the lakeshore, and now we're getting the brunt of it.

The ironic thing is, a friend presented with the same symptoms at almost the exact same time as me. Where were we together? A high school volleyball tournament in Kent county early Sat. morning.

21 posted on 11/05/2009 12:34:51 PM PST by rintense (You do not advance conservatism by becoming more liberal. ~ rintense, 2006)
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To: freekitty
If you are insured; you can go to your own doctor and get the shot.

No you can't. There are massive shortages in all states and when they do get a small shipment in, they go to pregant women, toddlers and those with chronic illnesses that are high risk.

You can be high risk, but without a chronic illness, no shot.

22 posted on 11/05/2009 12:35:22 PM PST by ET(end tyranny)
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To: rintense

I had the flu last week and I have no idea which strain. But here I am alive after taking the unusual step of bundling up(didn’t break a fever over 100), lying low, sleeping(a lot) and taking it easy.

Easiest flu I ever had in my life. If had just kept on trucking I would have been truly miserable, as I have in the past.

BTW, just read an article about the Finance Wiz’s on Wall Street getting the Swine Flu shot before everyone else and there is a very telling line in the article;

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE5A44QI20091105

“The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimates swine flu has infected more than 5 million people and it is documented as having killed 1,000.”

1,000 deaths out of 5 million infections? Is that a reason to take some experimental goo in your arm? Considering the odds?

What is that 0.0002% deaths (I used a calculator)?

Go ahead and take the experiment if you think the risk is worth it.


23 posted on 11/05/2009 12:37:05 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: fatnotlazy

The point is that you can get the swine flu more than once.


24 posted on 11/05/2009 12:37:11 PM PST by Pan_Yans Wife
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To: freekitty

If you are insured; you can go to your own doctor and get the shot.

_______________________________________________________

Really...gee its funny my hospital has no vaccine available...hasn’t for weeks!


25 posted on 11/05/2009 12:38:18 PM PST by JohnD9207 (REGISTERED RIGHT WING THUG!)
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To: Vendome
Yeah, this flu isn't even close to the Asian Flu I had in 1991. That was major stuff. Sick for a month. This is more of a nuisance flu for me at this point.

And no way I'd take that vaccine either.

26 posted on 11/05/2009 12:39:41 PM PST by rintense (You do not advance conservatism by becoming more liberal. ~ rintense, 2006)
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To: roses of sharon

I read that it peaked last week.


27 posted on 11/05/2009 12:45:09 PM PST by olivia3boys
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To: JohnD9207

Are you required to have proof of no insurance?


28 posted on 11/05/2009 12:46:23 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: olivia3boys

I read that it hasn’t peaked yet.


29 posted on 11/05/2009 12:47:49 PM PST by ET(end tyranny)
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To: Hodar

To put that in perspective, we have 18-20 thousand flu deaths in the US every year, without the swine flu in the mix. And there are plenty of flu cases that don’t get diagnosed as swine.


30 posted on 11/05/2009 12:49:38 PM PST by ichabod1 ( I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet.)
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To: JohnD9207
it was a lot smoother than it should have been

Gee, thanks.

31 posted on 11/05/2009 12:50:04 PM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: freekitty; JohnD9207
If you are insured; you can go to your own doctor and get the shot.

Give me the address of a private clinic in Texas that has some. I got my seasonal flu shot at the pharmacy of my local HEB. HEB hasn't announced any clinics for H1N1 vaccines. I don't see any minor emergency clinics advertising that they have H1N1 vaccine either.

32 posted on 11/05/2009 12:55:10 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: rintense

A friend of mine that lives in Texas had it and she had her doctor test to confirm that it was H1N1 because her daughter is pregnant(high risk) and had been exposed. It was indeed H1N1. What was odd was the person who had been sick and she thought she got it from turned out to be negative for H1NI, so who knows where she got it. They told her it can live on paper for up to 48 hours(such as mail)which is rather odd.
I’ve been spraying Lysol in my mailbox.
How are you doing now? Was it bad? Everyone that I know that has had CONFIRMED H1N1 said it was horrible. Days of high fever, pain so bad they could barely get out of bed.


33 posted on 11/05/2009 12:56:19 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Hodar

I recieved a flu shot 2 years ago and my legs and feet still have not completely stopped shaking constantly.

I’ll take my chances with the flu.


34 posted on 11/05/2009 12:57:22 PM PST by mowowie
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To: JohnD9207

What I do want to know: Why, on the few occasions I have to go or take my child to the emergency room, I have to wait behind the nonpaying customers?

Shouldn’t there be separate lines for those who are paying for their healthcare and those who are not?


35 posted on 11/05/2009 12:58:03 PM PST by fightinJAG (Mr. President: Why did you appoint a Communist to your Administration?)
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To: kcvl

I think you are the first poster who sort of clued in to the joke here.


36 posted on 11/05/2009 12:59:01 PM PST by fightinJAG (Mr. President: Why did you appoint a Communist to your Administration?)
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To: JohnD9207

Also, no one over 65, supposedly because they are in less danger. Frankly, I doubt that, especially the guy with cancer problems who was turned away.

As for going to your doctor or pharmacist, do we know that they have any vaccine yet? Ours don’t. I suspect that illegals and welfare criminals and other Obama voters will get first shot at the vaccine, and everybody else can wait.

Whether you want it in the first place is another question.


37 posted on 11/05/2009 12:59:58 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
The point is that you can get the swine flu more than once.

Yes, that is correct; but because you have had it, the severity of the second outbreak is dramatically less, the duration is shorter and the recovery faster.

Here's the catch. We all have some limited immunity to the Asian flu and previous versions of influenza. Each mutation has something in common with the flu we have either had, or had the vaccine shot for at some point in our lives. So, we can weather those strains pretty well.

No one who has not either had Swine Flu or the vaccine this year has any immunity at all. This is a new strain of bug - no human is immune. We are very lucky that THIS version is fairly benign - however what about next year, or the years after that. Eventually this will mutate into one NASTY bug. If you have no immunity at all; you will get very sick, or possibly die.

Consider, most of the survivors of the 1918 Spanish Influenza outbreak were people who had caught influenze in 1917.

38 posted on 11/05/2009 1:02:16 PM PST by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: mojitojoe

I’m one of the few that hasn’t had prolonged fever. But the body aches have been horrible, like I had been beaten with a bat. Really felt it in my shoulder/elbow/hip joints. Its as though my entire body is one big, throbbing bruise. And the shortness of breath is crazy. Get tired just going up 7 stairs. Any physical activity and I break out in a sweat. Of course, right now, I’m freezing my butt off with a sweatshirt, sweatpants and heavy socks on. And the headaches... they are the worst part.


39 posted on 11/05/2009 1:06:46 PM PST by rintense (You do not advance conservatism by becoming more liberal. ~ rintense, 2006)
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To: mowowie
I’ll take my chances with the flu.

In your case, I would whole-heartedly agree with you. Not everyone's body reacts to vaccines the same. For you, it sounds like they can do far more harm than good - however, in this particular case, I think you would agree that you are not the norm.

40 posted on 11/05/2009 1:07:17 PM PST by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: rintense

I had acne the week before and I am certain it was because of the Swine Flu. Imagine, a 46 year old man getting acne. It had to be the Swine Flu.

/s


41 posted on 11/05/2009 1:14:50 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: rintense

Take care of yourself, lots of fluids(6-8 16 oz glasses a day of water, juice, green tea(powerful antioxidant).


42 posted on 11/05/2009 1:17:35 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: rintense

are you on tamiflu?
If I had shortness of breath I’d be really insistent on getting evaluated by a doctor- ARDS can get really bad, really fast


43 posted on 11/05/2009 1:19:36 PM PST by silverleaf (Ours is the only country on earth with a ventriloquist dummy for President)
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To: silverleaf

They told me to call back/come in if the shortness of breath doesn’t get better, especially if I’m feeling better then get shortness of breath.


44 posted on 11/05/2009 1:22:43 PM PST by rintense (You do not advance conservatism by becoming more liberal. ~ rintense, 2006)
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To: JohnD9207
Darwinism in action.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

45 posted on 11/05/2009 1:25:12 PM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: JohnD9207

seeing as I am curious, wonder if all this was done in black communities or was they mixed and was it a Dem area?


46 posted on 11/05/2009 1:32:10 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman, end of. -end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Hodar

Ever since it became fashionable to forecast 100 years out, I have been afraid of being afraid...


47 posted on 11/05/2009 1:38:22 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: Vendome

200dpm?


48 posted on 11/05/2009 1:41:05 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: JohnD9207

Considering the potential for side effects, I’d as soon let the uninsured be the guinea pigs.

PETA doesn’t like animals used for testing drugs, wonder what they think about uninsured people?


49 posted on 11/05/2009 1:44:33 PM PST by HighlyOpinionated (Abortion-Euthanasia kills the very people for whom Social Justice is needed.)
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To: freekitty

No you can’t because the federal government is controlling the vaccine and only giving it to certain organizations.


50 posted on 11/05/2009 1:53:40 PM PST by chris_bdba
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