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Posted on 11/05/2009 12:02:50 PM PST by JohnD9207
Dallas County's first mass distribution of the swine flu vaccine Wednesday tested the patience of thousands of adults and children, who stood outdoors for hours to snag a scarce shot.
SONYA N. HEBERT/DMN Rony Velazquez, 4, waited while his mother, Blanca Medrano (left), and his sister Diana Velazquez were screened before getting their H1N1 shots at the Dallas County Health and Human Services building on Wednesday.But in the end, there was a lot of praise for how well the county dispensed the vaccine.
Despite chilly weather before dawn and intense sun by late morning, almost no one in the line complained about the long but orderly wait.
JIM MAHONEY/DMN Hundreds lined up early Wednesday to try to get the swine flu vaccine, which Dallas County is reserving for uninsured, high-risk groups."This is pretty efficient," said Michael Buxton, a 53-year-old South Dallas resident whose breathing problems sent him in pursuit of the vaccine.
"I waited a couple hours, but it was a lot smoother than it should have been."
JIM MAHONEY/DMN Sixteen-year-old Glenda Castro took care of paperwork while waiting in line on Wednesday.In all, the county inoculated about 3,600 adults and children, using up about a third of its supply of H1N1 vaccine reserved for uninsured, high-risk groups. They include pregnant women, people 6 months to 24 years old and those 25 to 64 years old with chronic illnesses
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I had acne the week before and I am certain it was because of the Swine Flu. Imagine, a 46 year old man getting acne. It had to be the Swine Flu.
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Take care of yourself, lots of fluids(6-8 16 oz glasses a day of water, juice, green tea(powerful antioxidant).
are you on tamiflu?
If I had shortness of breath I’d be really insistent on getting evaluated by a doctor- ARDS can get really bad, really fast
They told me to call back/come in if the shortness of breath doesn’t get better, especially if I’m feeling better then get shortness of breath.
seeing as I am curious, wonder if all this was done in black communities or was they mixed and was it a Dem area?
Ever since it became fashionable to forecast 100 years out, I have been afraid of being afraid...
200dpm?
Considering the potential for side effects, I’d as soon let the uninsured be the guinea pigs.
PETA doesn’t like animals used for testing drugs, wonder what they think about uninsured people?
No you can’t because the federal government is controlling the vaccine and only giving it to certain organizations.
I received a swine flu, regular flu and pneumonia shot from my Doctor’s Office in Richardson, Texas Tuesday. I have not had any side effects. I am 57 yrs old with asthma. That’s the only reason I got the shots. I have not received a flu shot in 20+ yrs. Hope I do not regret it.
Ditto. That was an idiotic statement.
I'm uninsured. Does this mean I have to take that shot? I am healthy as a horse. I don't get sick and I don't want their genetically engineered virus pumped into me.
Tell you all what. If you have insurance and you really think you need that shot then please, tell the shot givers that I (the anti-one) said that you could take mine. Deal?
“A French doctor calculated that humans have a 50X greater chance of dying from the vaccine than the virus.
Any facts to back that one up? Over a 1,000 Swine Flu deaths in the US as of Oct. 24th.
So, can you produce a source for 50,000 deaths related to the vaccine?”
You’re logic is flawed.
First, the 50x greater chance is for those individuals with no underlying medical condition. Of the 1,000 deaths most had an underlying medical condition.
Secondly, it’s not 50x the number of death, it’s 50x the chance. So you would need to take the number of current deaths of those with no underlying medical condition and divide it by the total U.S. population (with no underlying medical condition). You then take that % rate, multiply it by 50 and apply it to the number of people with no underlying medical condition who have had the shot. At this point in time the answer would probably come out to less than 10, maybe less than 5.
If I had a comprised immune system I would probably get the vaccine. If my immune system was fine, I would probably not get the shot.
I got the H1N1 vaccine Monday at my OB’s office. It gave me a mild case of the flu that lasted about 36 hrs. I was nervous about getting it but my OB strongly encouraged it. Now I’m glad I did because it is really going around her as well.
My doctor said that if you get the flu right now it is most likely H1N1 as regular flu season hasn’t started yet.
After the H1N1 vaccine made me sick, I don’t know if I’ll be able to bring myself to get the regular flu shot when they become available at my OB’s office.
Gee, I hate to tell you bufoon, I was at my doctor’s office the other day and they had it.
that is what the article indicates
I have a question about flu vaccines that I have have never heard asked by anyone else.
I know that immunity obtained from nature (infection) lasts a lifetime whereas immunity from vaccines tend to “wear off” over time. This is why booster shoots are recommended for some diseases.
So if a younger, healthy person gets regular flu shots to avoid getting sick, then this immunity should diminish over the years. By the time this person is “old” they will have lost immunity to many of the epitopes on the strains that they were vaccinated against over the years. This would mean that they would be much more likely to catch the flu when they are old (and in a higher risk group) than someone of the same age that has acquired natural immunity to these flu strains.
So, in the long run, isn’t it better for a healthy person to skip the vaccines and develop natural immunity? That way they will be more likely to survive an influenza infection when they are old.
First, I’m just an engineer, I am NOT a medical doctor.
So, to answer your question as best as I am able. Your body develops anti-bodies to infections that it has encountered. Once you encounter an infection, your body will is triggered to mass produce the appropriate anti-body.
Your body does not know a vaccine from the real deal; both result in your immune system producing antibodies. The antibodies do not know, or care whether they were created from a vaccine or an infection.
After you have overcome an infection, there is no reason for your body to keep the population of antibodies around, as too many antibodies in your system just creates problems. So, the population drops; but it does not drop to zero. They are stored, or the means to reproduce them is stored (magically, as far as I can tell).
So, if a disease with a long gestation period comes up; your body has a chance to rebuild those antibodoes to fight off the infection before you are aware of any symptoms. We call this immunity.
However, if you ever get a 24 hour bug that comes on fast, and you bounce back quicker than your coworkers who are down for days - chances are that the bug was a fast mover, and your body took 24 hours to rebuild the defence from this known bug.
Immunity means that your body has seen and defeated this bug. It does not mean that this particular bug will never again make you sick in the future - however you will be less sick than if you had never had the bug at all.
Is it wiser to have the vaccine or the illness? The vaccine usually takes 2 weeks to give you immunity, so many people get a shot on Monday and get sick on Friday - then blame the vaccine as being useless. The fact is that many bugs have a 3-7 day incubation period. They were sick either before they got the shot; or got sick well before the vaccine had triggered the immune response.
The more shots you have, the more bugs you can statistically avoid (no such thing as 100% immunity to anything). It’s all an odds game, I’d rather have 30% likelihood of not getting the Swine Flu than 100% certainty of getting it if I’m infected. With the Swine Flu being a brand new bug to the human race - no human has immunity (except those who have now either had the shot, or had the illnesss). This bug is rather benign this year. What will the Swine flu mutate into next year?
Oh, and just as an FYI. Our bodies are miraculous things. Our bodies not only react to the specific bug that made us sick, they also react to SOME variations of the bug. Thus, if you got a flu shot 5 years ago, you may have been susceptable to the flu variation that went around in the prceeding years because your body identified it as the origional bug - that doesn’t mean that this year’s mutation will also work. It’s all an odds game.
I appreciate your response and I could tell by some of your other posts that you are an educated person. I am a doctor, but not the medical kind. I am a biochemist and molecular virologist. The recent public outcries about vaccine safety has inspired me to do some research of my own on flu vaccines. There is so much confusion, misinterpretation and junk science on the web that it is no surprise that so many are scared.
What I was referring to in my post to you was the difference between vaccine acquired immunity versus natural immunity from infection. It is well known in the field that while natural immunity is lifelong, this is not necessarily the case with vaccination. For some reason, the immune system tends to “forget” vaccine acquired immunity over time. This is why booster shots are required. It seems that the body does actually know the difference between a vaccine and an infection.
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