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Tampa intelligence officer wants to know if Fort Hood shooter had 'sinister' connections
ABC Action News ^ | 11/6/2009 | Jeff Butera

Posted on 11/05/2009 9:40:14 PM PST by Saije

According to retired Col. Mike Pheneger, who spent 30 years as a military intelligence officer including five years at MacDill Air Force Base in Tampa, said United States intelligence should be focusing on why suspected Fort Hood gunman Nidal Malik Hasan did what he did.

It is possible that Hasan was merely unhappy about an imminent deployment to either Iraq or Afghanistan, as some have speculated, Pheneger said.

But Pheneger believes there are enough facts about Hasan's background that merit at least some suspicion about his motivation.

"One of the issues they're trying to figure out is whether the guy was simply individually motivated by his distaste with the Army and his unwillingness to go ahead and deploy or whether there's some more sinister aspect to the whole thing," Pheneger said.

Among the "more sinister aspects" that Pheneger suggested were that Hasan is a "lone wolf" who has sympathy for Islamic militancy and "decided to go act on his own to do some damage" or that he could have "consciously been placed as a plant in the U.S. Army."

Pheneger believes the last suggestion is the least likely but also the most sinister.

Late Thursday, federal law enforcement officials said Hasan had been on their radar for at least six months because of Internet postings about suicide bombings and other threats.

Pheneger said Hasan's computer would be one place intelligence officers would be looking. They would also delve into Hasan's social network and check with intelligence sources to find out if Hasan had ever had contact with organizations around the world, he said.

"I normally take these things with a grain of salt," Pheneger said, "but the other factor that comes in here is this guy handles a gun awfully well for a doctor."

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KEYWORDS: army; fthood; hasan; islam; jihad; jihadinamerica; killing; nidalmalikhasan; stealthjihad
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Hadn't really thought about that last part.
1 posted on 11/05/2009 9:40:15 PM PST by Saije
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To: Saije

Why do guys like this state the obvious, but then walk away from a perfectly sane observation by saying it is the “least possible”


2 posted on 11/05/2009 9:45:07 PM PST by gusty
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To: Saije

It was my *first* thought, knowing how tight the security is on the base! Glad to know I’m not the only one with my tin foil hat on!

I also find it very coincidental that this happened almost immediately after the Michele Bachmann Rally in DC, and that HolyO tried to steal their thunder by taking over Robert “Beltway Bob” Gibbs’ presser at the same time. Then when he was supposed to comment on the shootings during his speech, he spent several minutes ‘shouting out’ to his buds instead of immediately commenting on it—and in a very perfunctory, couldn’t care less attitude sort of way...connections?? Who knows, but like Alice said, curiouser and curiouser.


3 posted on 11/05/2009 9:45:52 PM PST by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: Saije

I had...I wondered how many hours he’s spent at the range recently....


4 posted on 11/05/2009 9:46:07 PM PST by goodnesswins (Become a Precinct Committee Person/Officer....in the GOP...or do NOT complain.)
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To: Saije
RINO McCain wouldn't approve of waterboarding even this POS.

Hopefully someone will and he'll spill his guts.

5 posted on 11/05/2009 9:47:20 PM PST by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Saije
...or that he could have "consciously been placed as a plant in the U.S. Army."

Grooming a plant with four years of medical school and a residency is a weird and costly way to plant someone who in the end did something any six-week enlistee could have done equally well.

If this Tampa intelligence office can't figure this out, I wonder about the rest of what he is speculating.

6 posted on 11/05/2009 9:48:47 PM PST by Plutarch
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'sinister' connections

The Koran, maybe? It gives him authority to avenge the "infidels."

7 posted on 11/05/2009 9:49:17 PM PST by oyez ( damnant quod non intelligunt)
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To: Saije

Qur’an:9:112, “The Believers fight in Allah’s Cause, they slay and are slain, kill and are killed.” .


8 posted on 11/05/2009 9:49:29 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Hope and Change in 2010)
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To: Saije

Don’t all members of the military have substantial training in using weapons?


9 posted on 11/05/2009 9:49:37 PM PST by freespirited (Liberals are only liberal about sex & drugs. Otherwise, they want to control your life. --DHorowitz)
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To: Saije
Late Thursday, federal law enforcement officials said Hasan had been on their radar for at least six months because of Internet postings about suicide bombings and other threats.

If the SOB wanted out he could have claimed he had sex with Obama. His Muslin founding didn't allow that. It was Muslin terrorism tried and true.

10 posted on 11/05/2009 9:52:57 PM PST by eyedigress
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To: Saije
It is possible that Hasan was merely unhappy about an imminent deployment to either Iraq or Afghanistan, as some have speculated, Pheneger said '

Yeah, it happens regularly when someone is unhappy about an imminent deployment. He just decides to kill or wound 43 of his fellow soldiers.

11 posted on 11/05/2009 9:53:07 PM PST by kabar
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To: Saije
I think after this and the previous Muslim incidents involving the Armed Forces there should be a removal of all Muslims from the military.

Sorry, we're at war.

I know we have a Constitution and Rule of Law but it's not a suicide pact.

Would we have tolerated known, vocal Nazi sympathizers during WW2? Hell no.

12 posted on 11/05/2009 9:54:13 PM PST by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: Saije

Why are so many troops getting killed in Afghan? Hamas and Muslim Brotherhood moles in the white hut feeding intel to the Taliban and Alqeada?

Thanks Judge David O. Carter. Nice job.


13 posted on 11/05/2009 9:57:16 PM PST by Frantzie (Judge David Carter - democrat & dishonorable Marine like John Murtha.)
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To: Saije

Here is an interesting link and possible connection>

“Army Major (Hasan) Played Role in Presidential (Obama) Transition”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2379728/posts

He worked for Homeland Security in Obozo’s transition team.

Was Hasan heckled by the Troops at Hood for his sympathy for his fellow Muslims. Did he explode and shoot a bunch of them?

Was this about his connection to the Obozo team. Many in the Mil would not like him for this.

Just a question.


14 posted on 11/05/2009 10:03:05 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.)
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>>>Hadn't really thought about that last part. <<<

Yeah, that was a real "Bingo" to me to. Especially for a Psychiatrist - not likely to see combat!!

Good observation.

Hopefully someone that sharp is running the investigation!!

15 posted on 11/05/2009 10:04:32 PM PST by HardStarboard ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule - Mencken knew Obama)
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To: goodnesswins

Medical doctors are not known to be out on the range and unless things have changed in recent years don’t have to qualify in small arms training.


16 posted on 11/05/2009 10:08:19 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: freespirited

No, not all members receive “substantial training in using weapons”. Doctors would most likely be given a simple familiarization course in using the .45 caliber pistol or whatever the Army is now using. He would also be given a rudimentary familiarization in the M-16 rifle and how to clean it. Most likely, he would fire this rifle on a 10 or 25 meter zero range. If he is lucky, he might get to fire the m-16 on a regular range but no more than this. In short, not much.


17 posted on 11/05/2009 10:09:12 PM PST by miele man
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To: Saije
"I normally take these things with a grain of salt," Pheneger said, "but the other factor that comes in here is this guy handles a gun awfully well for a doctor."

Added to the fact that there's at least 10 years of this guy's life basically unaccounted for, the "things that make you go hmmmmm" reflex is now kicking into overdrive in me....

the infowarrior

18 posted on 11/05/2009 10:11:25 PM PST by infowarrior
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To: freespirited
>>> Don’t all members of the military have substantial training in using weapons? <<<

Sure - but if your speciality is Psychiatry, you are unlikely to train as hard or take it as seriously as the "trigger pullers" next to you. ....unless of course you were a plant intent on doing damage at some point.

I doubt that there are many 'front line' psychiatrists deployed in theater.

Also, remember the Islamic soldier that "fragged" his commanding officer's tent with a grenade just before the kick off of Desert Storm. He admitted doing it to avoid having to battle Muslims....and was openly hostile to infidels.

19 posted on 11/05/2009 10:14:21 PM PST by HardStarboard ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule - Mencken knew Obama)
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To: freespirited
Don’t all members of the military have substantial training in using weapons?

Not really. Those who work in "comabt arms" (Infantry, Armor, Artillery, etc.) do, but those in comabt support usually only get basic training and proficiency. Those in the medical fields, even less...

the infowarrior

20 posted on 11/05/2009 10:14:45 PM PST by infowarrior
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