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Fort Hood Suspect Remains in Coma (Nasty little 5.7x28)
NewMax ^ | Friday, November 6, 2009 12:25 PM | Newsmax

Posted on 11/06/2009 10:21:22 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie

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To: Vendome

It was a round designed for a Personal Defense Weapon (PDW), which is more than a sidearm and less than a full rifle, for troops that couldn’t always carry an assault rifle.

Specifically, it was designed to replace pistol-caliber submachine guns as PDWs (like the MP-5K and such).

FN came out with the 5.7x28 round for both the FiveseveN pistol and the P90 PDW (sorta like a submachine gun). HK folowed up with a similar round for its MP-9 PDW.

The intent was to give greater penetration for the weapon (lighter, faster round with armor piercing rounds) because more and more troops and security were encountering body armor on the battlefield.

As soon as the FiveseveN pistol hit America, anti-gun sissies were crying about the new “assault pistol” with armor piercing capabilities. FN relented and restricted the good SS190 ammo and offered a lead-core round to the civvy market.


61 posted on 11/06/2009 10:43:34 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: MotorCityBuck

They landed about 15 miles from here.


62 posted on 11/06/2009 10:44:19 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: Vendome

Feed him pork to fill his colostomy bag then let the fun begin.


63 posted on 11/06/2009 10:44:32 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: Travis McGee

5.7 is nasty stuff. 2,000fps.


64 posted on 11/06/2009 10:45:10 AM PST by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: usmcobra

That’s exactly what it was called by the anti-gun sissies when FN started importing it to America.

Cop Killer
Armor Piercing
Assault Pistol

They keep making things up to fit the situation.


65 posted on 11/06/2009 10:45:20 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: Travis McGee

Apparently


66 posted on 11/06/2009 10:45:34 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Wow! Those are big rounds for a pistol.


67 posted on 11/06/2009 10:45:49 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Vendome; Squantos
This is the unusual carbine/SMG the 5.7X28 caliber was created for. It's called the FN P-90. It's for Secret Service and other bodyguard and security details. The caliber with AP bullets is designed to defeat body armor. The unusual magazine fits on top, and the bullets are rotated 90* to feed.

The pistol the killer used was created as an afterthought, to give elite security guards a handgun that uses the same kevlar-defeating caliber.

I don't know what kind of ammo the killer used. The AP ammo is supposedly not available to civilians.


68 posted on 11/06/2009 10:46:20 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Yep.
I remember seeing the +10 extensions at the Fun Shows.


69 posted on 11/06/2009 10:47:44 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: Travis McGee
"transited several victims"

Uh-huh. One of these went through both legs of the cop that brought him down.
70 posted on 11/06/2009 10:48:26 AM PST by DRey
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To: Travis McGee

maybe I should get one.


71 posted on 11/06/2009 10:48:35 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Marie; Tijeras_Slim
Those bullets are nasty. Real show-stoppers. One hit and you would be down.

Not really, not unless they hit the heart, spine or other vitals. The bullets are optimized for penetration. With bullets optimized for expansion or other exotic terminal effects (glaser safety slugs etc) we might have seen more killed and fewer wounded, with less pass-throughs and multiple hits by each slug.

72 posted on 11/06/2009 10:48:42 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Vendome

While you can.
The anti’s have hated this pistol for years and you’ll prolly see a new law soon.

They can’t help themselves.


73 posted on 11/06/2009 10:49:30 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: SJSAMPLE

See 68 about the FN P-90.


74 posted on 11/06/2009 10:49:45 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: null and void

Well with the Nancy pelosi style of interrogation some sort of drug would be in line to alleviate his pain.
However morphine is a two edged sword, doncha know.


75 posted on 11/06/2009 10:50:08 AM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Do they mean 5.7 MM instead of caliber? Or is it really less than a third the size of a .22?


76 posted on 11/06/2009 10:50:28 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., hot enough down there today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Vendome
An American Woman Took down one of your tiny zib brethern!

Is "zib" a variant of "zub" (the word used in Morocco)?

77 posted on 11/06/2009 10:50:28 AM PST by nina0113
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Wow. Interesting. On a side note I have had to find a site on U.S State flags, so i know where all you folks on FR are from. Never to old to learn something new. :)


78 posted on 11/06/2009 10:50:54 AM PST by MotorCityBuck (Page 73, Johnson, Navin)
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To: popataz

Good find man! FR Exclusive here.


79 posted on 11/06/2009 10:51:05 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: null and void
...I want him to sing like a canary.
I want the truth about islam to come out in a very public trial, and it to be front page news, day after day week after week.

Me too. My visceral reaction to want this guy dead is more than trumped by the absolute urgency of truth.

If the Beltway snipers had been killed instead of captured, the narrative would have been 100% "Army Vet Snaps Over Child Custody Battle." Too bad, so sad. If Richard Reed, the British shoe bomber, had died in a choke hold at the hands of a passenger, he'd have been just another nut job with no known motive, no known associations. Over and over, the scenario is repeated. The media spins, but the truth gets out, little by little, and more and more Americans find it impossible to swallow the ludicrous (and dangerous) PC pap. When the perps live to tell their tale, their own radical Islamic motivations came to light, in their own words.

80 posted on 11/06/2009 10:51:14 AM PST by Eroteme
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