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Officials Begin Putting Shooting Pieces Together (new info on Hasan)
npr ^ | November 6, 2009 | Tom Gjelten, Daniel Zwerdling and Steve Inskeep

Posted on 11/06/2009 1:07:01 PM PST by Mount Athos

He gave a Grand Rounds presentation. . . You take turns giving a lecture on, you know, the correct treatment of schizophrenia, the right drugs to prescribe for personality disorder, you know, that sort of thing. But instead of giving an academic paper, he gave a lecture on the Koran, and they said it didn’t seem to be just an informational lecture, but it seemed to be his own beliefs. That’s what a lot of people thought.

He talked about how if you’re a nonbeliever the Koran says you should have your head cut off, you should have oil poured down your throat, you should be set on fire. And I said well couldn’t this just be his educating you? And the psychiatrist said yes, but one of the Muslims in the audience, another psychiatrist, raised his hand and was quite disturbed and he said you know, a lot of us don’t believe these things you’re saying, and that there was no place where Hasan couched it as this is what the Koran teaches but you know I don’t believe it. And people actually talked in the hallway afterwards about ‘is he one of these people that’s going to freak out and shoot people someday?’


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; fortwood; fthood; ftwood; islam; jihad; neverforget
This is a key excerpt that instapundit picked up on...

Transcribed from radio audio clip.

1 posted on 11/06/2009 1:07:02 PM PST by Mount Athos
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To: Mount Athos

So tell me again how yet another nutcase slipped through the cracks. Ah, that’s right, he’s from a protected group.


2 posted on 11/06/2009 1:08:32 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: Mount Athos

Wow!


3 posted on 11/06/2009 1:09:08 PM PST by stayathomemom (Beware of cat attacks while typing!)
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To: Mount Athos

Now, now. Let’s not “jump to conclusions” about this “alledged attack”.


4 posted on 11/06/2009 1:09:27 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (I am Legend)
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To: Mount Athos

Why is it always after the fact we hear how someone should have done something? Now we have how many dead and more wounded. Makes one sick.


5 posted on 11/06/2009 1:10:21 PM PST by ohiogrammy (12)
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To: Mount Athos

Sure sounds like “compassion fatigue” to me.


6 posted on 11/06/2009 1:10:49 PM PST by Interesting Times (For the truth about "swift boating" see ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: Mount Athos

NPR aired that?

Probably just once.

I wish someone had recorded it.


7 posted on 11/06/2009 1:11:55 PM PST by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com .... I am a rogue nobody. One of millions.)
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To: Mount Athos

I’d still like to know more about the suspects. I don’t need names or even to know how they were “cleared”. I am just interested in what was happening to raise suspicions on these two men.

I understand that they have been released. Just would like to know how they originally fit (or were made to fit) into the puzzle.


8 posted on 11/06/2009 1:12:00 PM PST by a fool in paradise (I refuse to "reduce my carbon footprint" all while Lenin remains in an airconditioned shrine)
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To: Mount Athos

But of course anyone complaining about this nutty behavior would have been immediately labeled a RACIST and sent to sensitivity training!


9 posted on 11/06/2009 1:12:05 PM PST by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: ohiogrammy

Like the internet postings defending suicide bombers that were killing our troops... maybe that should have been a big red flag instead of a minor yellow one.


10 posted on 11/06/2009 1:13:00 PM PST by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com .... I am a rogue nobody. One of millions.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

He’s still alive and so therefore he’s still a “suspect”. Will Obamacare keep people like this on life support? Where is the death panel?


11 posted on 11/06/2009 1:13:12 PM PST by a fool in paradise (I refuse to "reduce my carbon footprint" all while Lenin remains in an airconditioned shrine)
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To: Mount Athos

sounds like PTSD to me.../s


12 posted on 11/06/2009 1:13:22 PM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: Interesting Times

The man has zero compassion. None.


13 posted on 11/06/2009 1:13:27 PM PST by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com .... I am a rogue nobody. One of millions.)
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To: GeronL

you can click the speaker symbol to listen to the audio at the link given


14 posted on 11/06/2009 1:13:31 PM PST by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: dirtboy

So tell me again how yet another nutcase slipped through the cracks. Ah, that’s right, he’s from a protected group.

Political correctness to it’s logical conclusion....we all end up dead!


15 posted on 11/06/2009 1:14:56 PM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: dirtboy
So tell me again how yet another nutcase slipped through the cracks. Ah, that’s right, he’s from a protected group.

No crack this muzzie slipped through, it was a mile wide chasm.

16 posted on 11/06/2009 1:15:40 PM PST by Graybeard58 ( Selah.)
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To: dirtboy

If I were a Muslin officer/enlisted and I heard someone going off like that, I would report him. My guess is the the others are so indoctrinated in PC that they don’t dare tell the commander bad news.


17 posted on 11/06/2009 1:16:09 PM PST by RobbyS (he)
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To: Mount Athos

bookmark


18 posted on 11/06/2009 1:16:23 PM PST by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: Mount Athos

“We know he was a devout Muslim, took his faith very seriously. We can’t say, of course, that that was relevant, here.”

The attitude behind this one sentence assures us that many more will be murdered in the same way.


19 posted on 11/06/2009 1:16:36 PM PST by TruthHound ("He who does not punish evil commands it to be done." --Leonardo da Vinci)
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To: Mount Athos
We know he was a devout Muslim, took his faith very seriously. We can't say, of course, that that was relevant, here.

Puh-leeze.

20 posted on 11/06/2009 1:19:03 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Mount Athos

OK so a room full of shrinks couldn’t figure out the guy was dangerous????


21 posted on 11/06/2009 1:20:29 PM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: Mount Athos
There were lots of red flags on this guy and he worked around other mental health professionals. Someone was really asleep at the switch. His commander should have some splaining to do.
22 posted on 11/06/2009 1:21:18 PM PST by colorado tanker (What's it all about, Barrrrry? Is it just for the power, you live?)
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To: ohiogrammy

Why is it always after the fact we hear how someone should have done something?

because to do something BEFOREHAND can be misconstrued as racial profiling, islamophobia, racist etc..no one wants to be labeled as such..


23 posted on 11/06/2009 1:21:19 PM PST by GeorgiaDawg32 (A moderate muslim is one who is simply buying time to reload..)
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To: Mount Athos
He did not “slip through the cracks”. He was chosen,
as are all Manchurian candidates, operatives and cells.

“Army Major (Hasan) Played Role in Presidential (Obama) Transition
Maj. Malik Nidal Hasan … served on the Homeland Security Policy Institute’s presidential transition task force between April 2008 and January 2009
when Barack Obama was inaugurated as the nation’s 44th president.”





24 posted on 11/06/2009 1:21:41 PM PST by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: GeronL
Like the internet postings defending suicide bombers that were killing our troops... maybe that should have been a big red flag instead of a minor yellow one.

Sounds like from the interview that red flags on this guy were being waved the whole time he was at Walter Reed.

25 posted on 11/06/2009 1:21:52 PM PST by Drew68
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To: RobbyS

I worked on a major Army installation in this country for 18 years as a civilian employee. Believe me when I tell you that neither military or civilian personnel tell the commander anything he doesn’t want to hear. Do it and you’re considered to be a trouble-maker who is shunned by all.


26 posted on 11/06/2009 1:22:10 PM PST by steppinhi (God Bless & Protect Our Troops and their families!)
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To: Mount Athos

Sounds like the audience was a bunch of racists.


27 posted on 11/06/2009 1:22:41 PM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: Diogenesis

Please tell me you photoshopped in Bin Laden’s framed image behind Hassan’s photo.


28 posted on 11/06/2009 1:26:49 PM PST by TADSLOS (Prayers to our Fort Hood Soldiers and Families)
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To: GeronL

Read the transcript. NPR was working the “he was stressed out” angle and then painting military as 35% PTSD, etc. I’m glad I didn’t hear this.


29 posted on 11/06/2009 1:26:59 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Yes, it IS the end of the world.)
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To: Mount Athos

“Ya know, we sat there watching the fuse burn on that bundle of dynamite, and asked ourselves if someone ought to go try and spit on the fuse and put it out. I still don’t understand why I got blown up.”

Until we get it through our collective heads that Extremism and Islam are one and the same, this kind of thing will continue. What will it take to wake people up? Do we need to have suicide attacks on the shopping malls?? Do we have to watch these murderers target out mothers, wives and daughters??

George W. Bush tried to warn America that these maniacs would follow us home if we did not defeat them overseas. He was right about that, but he is also as much to blame for this as the Congress and several Presidents before him are for allowing the Military to become one big social experiment.


30 posted on 11/06/2009 1:27:10 PM PST by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts....)
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To: Diogenesis
My guess is they kept him in the Army to keep an eye on him, figured he would be more of a danger roaming free in the US, he would have. They were thinking more that he would organize an attach then go off on his own.

I could see that line of thinking, most successful Muslims just get lower class to do actual attacks.

31 posted on 11/06/2009 1:27:38 PM PST by NoDRodee (U>S>M>C)
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To: Mount Athos

According to Dr. Phill and the left...He was just misunderstood and mentally unstable from something.....Not sure what it is....they haven’t come up with it yet. But it can’t be Islam./s


32 posted on 11/06/2009 1:28:52 PM PST by Dallas59 (No To O -Time is going by really really really really slow.)
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To: Mount Athos

Gee, I can’t understand why he did it.

I already knew the news media was shabby and biased, but I am truly stunned by the reporting of this shooting. They must all be afraid they’ll be sued by Muslims. The media searching for the cause of this incident reminds me of O.J. searching for the real killers. Total nonsense.


33 posted on 11/06/2009 1:30:40 PM PST by popdonnelly (Yes, we disagree - no, we won't shut up - no, we won't quit.)
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To: Mount Athos

What a way to spread the love of Islam: cut off the heads and pour hot oil down the throats of those who don’t convert. Makes for a good medical lecture, too. ROP


34 posted on 11/06/2009 1:31:13 PM PST by norwaypinesavage (Global Warming Theory is extremely robust with respect to data. All observations confirm it)
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To: Mount Athos; devolve; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; MeekOneGOP
"We don't know all the answers yet. And I would caution against jumping to conclusions until we have all the facts," Obama said

Maybe we need to send this information to Obama, he seems to be unaware of the 'facts'....

Darn, the Army HAD to be aware of what this man is. Were they too indimidated to do anything about it? Were they too overruled by stupid regulations that end up allowing things like this to happen?

YES. Political Correctness is ruining the country.

35 posted on 11/06/2009 1:34:00 PM PST by potlatch (Actions Speak Louder Than Words)
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To: Mount Athos

Who knew terrorists could get PTSD.


36 posted on 11/06/2009 1:35:04 PM PST by Brytani (Support Lt. Col Allen West for Congress - www.allenwestforcongress.com)
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To: Mount Athos

And what whack-jog superior STILL deemed him fit for duty after this “Koran” tirade ???


37 posted on 11/06/2009 1:37:46 PM PST by Lmo56
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To: Mount Athos

Whack-job that is ...


38 posted on 11/06/2009 1:38:42 PM PST by Lmo56
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To: Mount Athos

WEll, they do a bit of the pre-traumatic distress disorder routine, but it’s absolutely amazing that NPR ran this interview at all.

Even the LAT ran a piece mentioning Alahu Akbar in the headline.

And Drudge has had it up all day.

Going to be hard for them to bury this.


39 posted on 11/06/2009 1:42:11 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Mount Athos
YIKES, can anybody say, "r.e.l.i.g.i.o.u.s....p.s.y.c.h.o.s.i.s" or does it take a layperson to recognize the obvious???

WHAT were all those so-called professionals in the audience thinking?? That this Dr. Hasan was an appropriate medical doctor to send to the frontlines to treat troops???

40 posted on 11/06/2009 1:43:09 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: Mount Athos
Why don't they start by reading FR?
41 posted on 11/06/2009 1:43:55 PM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Jimmy Carter - now the second worst POTUS ever. BHO [the LIAR] has #1 spot in his sights.)
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To: La Enchiladita
Re: stressed out. I couldn't believe this:

"GJELTEN: That's right, Steve. You know, you referred to the Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. There's - almost seems to be a phenomenon that you could maybe call a pre-traumatic stress disorder. "

So now it's pre-stress, not post.

Sheesh.

42 posted on 11/06/2009 1:49:30 PM PST by Proud_texan (Scare people enough and they'll do anything.)
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To: Mount Athos
Exactly, the same 4 hour lecture that I got from a medical resident training program. To date, I haven't heard that my lecturer has murdered dozens of innocent people. Islam is an 8th Century Death Cult.

I contacted the Chicago FBI Task Force, who was dismissive. He excused this physician's hateful deranged diatribe by saying I was mistaken. Even after I detailed 25K financial payments this madman made to the families of future Palestinian suicide bombers, the FBI refused to act against this physician. I was fired from my position at the University of Wisconsin two weeks later.

It is my conclusion that this Detroit based physician wants to kill all of us.

43 posted on 11/06/2009 1:54:54 PM PST by STD (FReep away)
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To: Proud_texan

It is too sickening for me to comprehend. These people are sick. Try googling the subject of Fort Hood and see what you get... excuses and applause for the perp.


44 posted on 11/06/2009 1:56:40 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Got jihad?)
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To: La Enchiladita
Sickening is a good word for it, at least in polite company. This has effected me more than anything else I can think of since 9/11.

We are going to PC ourselves right into the grave.

45 posted on 11/06/2009 2:01:24 PM PST by Proud_texan (Scare people enough and they'll do anything.)
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To: STD

Are you serious, or are you being facetious?


46 posted on 11/06/2009 2:08:05 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: STD

You need to get this info to Glenn Beck’s staff.


47 posted on 11/06/2009 2:19:55 PM PST by Aggie Mama
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To: Proud_texan

This is another 9/11, but you wouldn’t know it from the general response.


48 posted on 11/06/2009 3:23:09 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Got jihad?)
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