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Fort Hood shootings: FBI given gunman's name six months ago
Telegraph ^

Posted on 11/06/2009 2:20:36 PM PST by Sub-Driver

Fort Hood shootings: FBI given gunman's name six months ago The US Army major who killed 13 people in a shooting spree at America's biggest military base had come to the attention of the FBI six months earlier over possible links to extremist comments posted on the internet.

By Gordon Rayner and Nick Allen in Fort Hood, Texas Published: 9:59PM GMT 06 Nov 2009

Major Nidal Malik Hasan, a devout Muslim who was trying to buy his way out of the Army, was suspected of being the author of postings which compared suicide bombers to heroic soldiers who throw themselves onto grenades to save others.

It also emerged that Hasan, 39, had described the US Army as "the aggressor" in Iraq and Afghanistan and was resisting a planned deployment to Afghanistan, raising questions over whether the military missed warning signs which might have prevented the massacre.

Witnesses said Hasan shouted "Allahu akbar", Arabic for God is great, as he opened fire – a phrase commonly used by Islamic militant suicide bombers – though investigators said there was no evidence he had been recruited by al-Qaeda or other Islamic extremist organisations.

Hasan – who was initially thought to have been killed – is being kept alive on a ventilator after being shot four times by a civilian policewoman

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abledanger; allaakbar; dejavu; fbi; fbifailures; forthood; forthoodkillings; forthoodtexas; fortwood; ftwood; hasan; homelandsecurity; islam; nidalmalikhasan; obamalegacy; wot
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ruh roh.......
1 posted on 11/06/2009 2:20:37 PM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Buck stops at Zero’s desk.


2 posted on 11/06/2009 2:22:02 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Jet Jaguar

Ping.


3 posted on 11/06/2009 2:22:46 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Sub-Driver

But the homeland security document said right wingers and those who’d ALREADY BEEN DEPLOYED were the threats to national security.


4 posted on 11/06/2009 2:23:38 PM PST by a fool in paradise (I refuse to "reduce my carbon footprint" all while Lenin remains in an airconditioned shrine)
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To: Sub-Driver
Fort Hood shootings: FBI given gunman's name six months ago

Good gawd, who's a the wheel at the Dept. of Justice...oh, wait a minute, that's Holder. No f'ing wonder!

5 posted on 11/06/2009 2:23:47 PM PST by meandog (Is OWEbummer the antichrist?)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

“PRESENT!”


6 posted on 11/06/2009 2:23:55 PM PST by a fool in paradise (I refuse to "reduce my carbon footprint" all while Lenin remains in an airconditioned shrine)
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To: Sub-Driver
But don't jump to any conclusions!
7 posted on 11/06/2009 2:24:56 PM PST by library user
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To: ExTexasRedhead

It sure does.


8 posted on 11/06/2009 2:27:27 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Sub-Driver
It also emerged that Hasan, 39, had described the US Army as "the aggressor" in Iraq and Afghanistan and was resisting a planned deployment to Afghanistan, raising questions over whether the military missed warning signs which might have prevented the massacre.

Lessee, the Federal Bureau of INVESTIGATION says the military missed warning signs. Um, who had those "signs" in their possession? Did they pass them on with appropriate urgency? Hmmm?

We'll see whom should be the Holder of responsibility here.

9 posted on 11/06/2009 2:28:29 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Islam offers three choices: surrender, fight, or die.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Nothing to see here, move along. According to DHS, he did not fit the profile of a terrorist.


10 posted on 11/06/2009 2:28:43 PM PST by liberateUS
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To: Sub-Driver

How come the uk has this info before it’s reported here?


11 posted on 11/06/2009 2:28:51 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: Sub-Driver

Just another terrorist stopping the voters and murdering
the Patriots that AG Holder cannot get to himself.


12 posted on 11/06/2009 2:28:54 PM PST by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: Sub-Driver

Bu the O admin was too busy fighting domestic terrorists like Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck and Fox News.


13 posted on 11/06/2009 2:29:43 PM PST by rintense (You do not advance conservatism by becoming more liberal. ~ rintense, 2006)
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To: Sub-Driver
Obviously the spin talking points have been issued to the MSN by Axelrod from the heady precincts of the White House.
We need to change the language. I laugh about all the descriptions of this incident.

Words are used like shootings , killings , ( couched in terms as if the victims could shoot back.)

This happened at a med facility where there was a long cue for flu shots and other medical processing.The perpetrator calmly got to his feet , reached into his jacket, drew two pistols and calmly started walking down the rows of people , pointing his weapons and shooting them calmly, point blank, in cold blood.

This was not “shootings” This was not “killings.” This was genocidal execution. These human beings were dispatched as if they were animals.One woman was 6 months pregnant.

TIME TO TELL THE TRUTH. GENOCIDAL EXECUTION is what this was.

The same sort that happened in Kenya , courtesy of Obama’s tinkering there. in 2007.

OBAMA'S FAULT!!!!!!!

14 posted on 11/06/2009 2:31:57 PM PST by Candor7 (The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (.Member NRA)
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To: Sub-Driver

Barack HUSSEIN Obama.........MMMMM.....MMMMMM.......MMMMMMM


15 posted on 11/06/2009 2:32:59 PM PST by Godebert
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To: Sub-Driver; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ASA Vet; BIGLOOK; BOBTHENAILER; Travis McGee

I have been posting this oped by Mark Steyn since early this morning.

My first paragraph intro deals with the probable coverup by Walter Reed and Homeland Security:

“Did Homeland Security and the Brass at Walter Reed ignore the Islamic killer’s rantings, promote him and send him to Ft Hood?”

The killer doctor apparently voiced his hatred of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and our warriors to anyone and on a regular basis. He got by with this bs because he was Islamofascist, who became an Islamofascist Mass Killer.


Friday, November 06, 2009 1:56:46 PM · 16 of 22
Grampa Dave to Justaham

Did Homeland Security and the Brass at Walter Reed ignore the Islamic killer’s rantings, promote him and send him to Ft Hood?

Mark Stein does a great job of shredding the pc bs and getting to reality of Islamic Killers in America and around the world:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2380112/posts


16 posted on 11/06/2009 2:34:19 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Does 0b0z0 have any friends, who aren't traitors, spies, tax cheats and criminals?)
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To: Sub-Driver

First this POS should have received military courts-martial, dishonorable discharge and put on a terror watch list. Except within the Clown Universe, he is promoted, used as a poster boy for Islam and would be protected by Homeland Security as a fellow traveler of Holder and Obama.


17 posted on 11/06/2009 2:34:28 PM PST by ntmxx (I am not so sure about this misdirection!)
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To: Sub-Driver

The message to the entire jihad world is this:

You can be an active-duty member of the US military and publicly post anti-American Muslim jihad rhetoric and...attend enemy insurgent training bases in your 7th century uniform and...even be reported as a threat and the “authorities,” civilian and military, WON’T DARE TOUCH YOU.


18 posted on 11/06/2009 2:34:56 PM PST by Moe Tzadik
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
How come the uk has this info before it’s reported here?

All the American 'news' media (w/exception to FOX which isn't a news station) must get their reports cleared through the appropriate Obama Administration Czar.

19 posted on 11/06/2009 2:37:11 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: a fool in paradise

This killer apparently worked with Homeland Security during the transition period.

HLS was too busy looking at dangerous veterans to notice this TROPOS, spreading verbal treason under their noses.


20 posted on 11/06/2009 2:37:22 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Does 0b0z0 have any friends, who aren't traitors, spies, tax cheats and criminals?)
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To: Sub-Driver
It was appropriate to give the FBI the tip, but my question is why wasn't his chain of command looking into his actions? There were lots of red flags this guy was unfit for duty in an Army fighting wars he was opposed to. Instead he gets promoted???
21 posted on 11/06/2009 2:37:29 PM PST by colorado tanker (What's it all about, Barrrrry? Is it just for the power, you live?)
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To: UCANSEE2

true :-p


22 posted on 11/06/2009 2:41:10 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: Sub-Driver

The FBI is too busy entraping “kiddie pornographers”.


23 posted on 11/06/2009 2:43:19 PM PST by LiberConservative ("Sarah Palin irritates all the right people." -Dennis Miller)
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To: Sub-Driver

Would that be Obama’s FBI?
Obviously all legislation action must stop and new Congressional hearings be initiated immediately to determine if Obama and his appoittees are culpable in this matter.


24 posted on 11/06/2009 2:43:53 PM PST by rod1
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To: ExTexasRedhead

That’s because he keeps it.


25 posted on 11/06/2009 2:44:12 PM PST by Lady Jag (Double your income. Fire the government)
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To: Sub-Driver

I would not be surprised if muslims are given preferred treatment by the Present Occupant’s administration.

Holder would never dare to hassle a muslim no matter how many threatening posts on the internet.


26 posted on 11/06/2009 2:50:18 PM PST by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
How come the uk has this info before it’s reported here?

I have wondered the same thing. You can't tell me our *journalists* didn't know this.

28 posted on 11/06/2009 2:54:35 PM PST by azishot
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To: liberateUS
Nothing to see here, move along. According to DHS, he did not fit the profile of a terrorist.

After all, if he'd been a combat veteran they would have known for sure he was a terrorist...

29 posted on 11/06/2009 2:56:22 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Islam offers three choices: surrender, fight, or die.)
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To: Sub-Driver

I hope they turn up the pressure on that ventilator high enough so the wind whistles through the bullet holes in his hide.


30 posted on 11/06/2009 2:57:31 PM PST by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: ntmxx

Prior to yesterday, Courts-Martialed for what?


31 posted on 11/06/2009 2:58:10 PM PST by Jacquerie (All Muslims are suspect.)
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To: Grampa Dave

Keep on posting it grandpa dave!


32 posted on 11/06/2009 3:03:04 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: azishot

Agreed!


33 posted on 11/06/2009 3:04:27 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: USMCPOP
We're being told very little about Hasan's condition. Early on, someone said "he wasn't talking"...which gives me the impression that he was able.

They may have induced a coma to keep him on an even keel until he heals a bit.

I'm waiting for a picture of Obama and Hasan to show up...

34 posted on 11/06/2009 3:05:45 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sub-Driver
and they didn't tell the ARMY BECAUSE???
35 posted on 11/06/2009 3:13:12 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Jacquerie
Prior to yesterday, Courts-Martialed for what?

I don't know the exact UCMJ section references or exact legal phrasing, but "Conduct Unbecoming an Officer" and/or "Conduct Not Conducive to Maintaining Good Order", based on past extolling of the virtues of Jihad, would be a good starting point.

Or just plain old Sedition.

36 posted on 11/06/2009 3:14:15 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Sub-Driver

We need congressional investigations into this incident. What military brass were involved in running cover for this Muslim terrorist and why.


37 posted on 11/06/2009 3:20:26 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Sacajaweau

We’re being told very little about Hasan’s condition. Early on, someone said “he wasn’t talking”...which gives me the impression that he was able.
They may have induced a coma to keep him on an even keel until he heals a bit.
I’m waiting for a picture of Obama and Hasan to show up...

“he wasn’t talking” - I thought the same thing. But, I
think these jackass reporters get a kick out of playing
with words...


38 posted on 11/06/2009 3:20:56 PM PST by savage woman
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To: Jacquerie

That’s a good question, I would believe that this guy espoused active overthrow of the United States, he did proselytized and recruited against America plus it’s actions around the world including military or his beliefs and actions while in the military would lead to the elimination of the United States Constitution, for every member of Islam has the ultimate goal of subjugation and domination; that would include destruction of Constitutional protections for all.


39 posted on 11/06/2009 3:22:09 PM PST by ntmxx (I am not so sure about this misdirection!)
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To: Sub-Driver

The latest installment of Able Danger.


40 posted on 11/06/2009 3:24:41 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Got jihad?)
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To: ntmxx

His CO and Dept head at WR should be in the hotseat right now. If they had a clue about his statements and attitude and did nothing about it..they should be fired.
Now..in reality..they were probably afraid to report him or discipline him.


41 posted on 11/06/2009 3:27:39 PM PST by Oldexpat
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To: DuncanWaring

It would have been a waste of time and resources. That is why he wasn’t prosecuted. He would have become a symbolic martyr, harrassed by the evil Christians. The flag officer who called for courts martial could kiss advancement goodbye.

Political correctness is over 30 years old in our military. First blacks, then babes, now islamists and homos are soon to follow.


42 posted on 11/06/2009 3:28:32 PM PST by Jacquerie (All Muslims are suspect.)
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To: savage woman

It means something that we were given conflicting reports on the perp’s condition. First, he was dead. Then, several hours later we learn he is alive, in the hospital and expected to survive. Then we hear he is on a respirator. Now, the word is he’s in a coma.

Uh-huh. And it’s ALL TRUE.


43 posted on 11/06/2009 3:29:09 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Got jihad?)
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To: Sub-Driver

This was a terrorist attack on US soil.
0bama and Napolitano have failed to keep us safe.


44 posted on 11/06/2009 3:30:14 PM PST by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: Army Air Corps

Bump


45 posted on 11/06/2009 3:31:43 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (A mob of one.)
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To: La Enchiladita

Yeah, and then they will say he’s dead again, and then
his name will turn up again at another shooting...


46 posted on 11/06/2009 3:37:20 PM PST by savage woman
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To: Oldexpat

“...in reality...”

Agreed; Paralysis by Political Corruption…


47 posted on 11/06/2009 3:46:53 PM PST by ntmxx (I am not so sure about this misdirection!)
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To: Sub-Driver
So what? Those are Odumbas*ses pals. he's too busy going after Beck, fox news, people that go to tea parties or fly that boogeyman yellow flag with a snake on it. Gawd I hate that mentally screwed up, deranged POS.
48 posted on 11/06/2009 3:52:20 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: ntmxx

I don’t disagree with you, but by our logic, any American whether military or civilian who posted such treason on the web should be prosecuted.


49 posted on 11/06/2009 3:54:43 PM PST by Jacquerie (All Muslims are suspect.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Gee, the FBI has been tracking all the White Christian terrorists... just got backlogged .... Dept of Justice has been busy with all the Gay and Lesbian stuff too....

Don't worry it's not about Islam.

50 posted on 11/06/2009 3:58:43 PM PST by erman (Give a man a fire, warm him for one night. Set a man on fire, warm him for the rest of his life.)
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