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Kimberly Munley ended Fort Hood rampage using Virginia Tech lessons
Christian Science Monitor ^ | 11/6/2009 | Patrick Jonsson

Posted on 11/06/2009 3:26:00 PM PST by Saije

Lessons learned from the horrific Virginia Tech shootings in 2007 are credited with averting an even bigger massacre at Fort Hood, Texas, Thursday afternoon when police officer Kimberly Munley confronted the gunman without waiting for backup and took him down with four shots.

Reviews in the aftermath of the shootings at Virginia Tech, where 32 died, found that first responders' decision to be careful and wait for backup probably cost lives as that gunman moved unchecked from classroom to classroom as law enforcement massed outside.

Those findings had found their way to Fort Hood's Special Reaction Team, which had practiced an entirely new protocol for at least a year before Thursday afternoon's rampage here, in which 13 were killed and at least 28 wounded.

"The lesson from Virginia Tech was, don't wait for backup but move to the target and eliminate the shooter," says Chuck Medley, chief of Fort Hood's emergency services. "It requires courage and it requires skill."

The task on Thursday fell to the petite Ms. Munley, a civilian police officer employed by the Army at Fort Hood. Munley had taken part in intensive active-shooter training during the past year.

One of the first responders, she exited her car and entered the building as shots rang out. She rounded a corner, identified the shooter, and fired four times. He returned fire and hit her at least twice in the legs and once in the arm. She underwent surgery Friday but is said to be in good condition. It's unclear how many other responders were present and firing, but Munley's shots are believed to be the ones that stopped the alleged gunman, Army psychiatrist Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan.

(Excerpt) Read more at csmonitor.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: forthood; hasan; killings; leo; lessons; munley; nidalmalikhasan; virginiatech; vt
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Opportunity meets training. Glad she was ready for it.
1 posted on 11/06/2009 3:26:00 PM PST by Saije
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To: Saije

She went to VT?

or did the terrorist go to VT?


2 posted on 11/06/2009 3:27:08 PM PST by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com .... I am a rogue nobody. One of millions.)
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To: Saije

I cannot imagine . . .

God bless her.


3 posted on 11/06/2009 3:27:18 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat
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To: Saije

<One of the first responders, she exited her car and entered the building as shots rang out. She rounded a corner, identified the shooter, and fired four times.

My kind of woman! I hope she recovers quickly.


4 posted on 11/06/2009 3:28:52 PM PST by radiohead (Buy ammo, get your kids out of government schools, pray for the Republic.)
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To: Saije

They were using the techniques that most police departments across the country employ for an active shooter. It was a lesson learned the hard way. Don’t wait for anyone else to arrive. Go in, engage and terminate the threat.


5 posted on 11/06/2009 3:28:58 PM PST by animal172 (Why doesn't affirmative action apply to the NBA or NFL?)
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To: Saije
And then there was the woman in the church in Colorado who took down the shooter by confrontation.

Must be shocking for the Muslims when the "property" acts that way.

6 posted on 11/06/2009 3:29:09 PM PST by Regulator (Welcome to Zimbabwe! Now hand over your property....)
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To: Saije

I’m glad someone in the MSM had the courage to write what needed to be written. The way some of these first responders wait until they have overwhelming force, may be prudent for their own survival, but not always prudent for the survival of the people trapped inside with the madmen.


7 posted on 11/06/2009 3:29:25 PM PST by OldDeckHand (Obamacare - So bad, even Joe Lieberman isn't going to vote for it.)
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To: Saije

Somebody please keep this post in mind and tell me where this Nidal Malik Hasan is buried. Next year, I’ll take my vacation there and pour pig blood all over his grave, and I’m not kidding about this. I’ll do my best to send the SOB Muslim straight to HELL!


8 posted on 11/06/2009 3:30:50 PM PST by scoobysnak71
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To: GeronL

The terrorist went to Va. Tech. She was trained in the lessons learned at Tech and used them to confront the killer.


9 posted on 11/06/2009 3:30:58 PM PST by rabidralph (http://www.thealaskafundtrust.com/ http://www.sarahpac.com)
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To: OldDeckHand

That’s old school. I don’t know of anyone using the wait for the cavalry anymore. Whoever gets there first goes in.


10 posted on 11/06/2009 3:31:10 PM PST by animal172 (Why doesn't affirmative action apply to the NBA or NFL?)
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To: Saije
If we had a POTUS instead of a radical communist muslim *sshole in the White House, this brave hero would be getting a medal. She will get prosecuted. Please, all, don't post her picture. Her life is in big danger...
11 posted on 11/06/2009 3:32:56 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: scoobysnak71

I’m willing to go also, but I’ll be standing over his grave holding a particular part of my body as it discharges vast quantities of beer.


12 posted on 11/06/2009 3:33:09 PM PST by animal172 (Why doesn't affirmative action apply to the NBA or NFL?)
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To: Saije

Like on Flight 97, where the Terrorists expected the passengers to meekly accept the hijacking and await rescue, they were unprepared for sudden and forceful counterattack.

We are learning that the enemy does not act like us. We must be aggressive and take the enemy down.


13 posted on 11/06/2009 3:34:02 PM PST by Haiku Guy (If You have a Right / To the Service I provide / I must be Your Slave)
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To: Haiku Guy
Which is exactly why another high jacking will never occur again. There are a lot more of us on a plane then there are of them. We may all die, but in the end they lose.
14 posted on 11/06/2009 3:35:47 PM PST by animal172 (Why doesn't affirmative action apply to the NBA or NFL?)
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To: Saije
Oh Really?  Well this is a Texas-American Woman.
 
 
An American Woman is Superior to any jihadist!
 
 
Meet Kim Munley - Officer of the Year!
 
 

The teachable moment here is:

An American Woman Took down one of your tiny zib brethern!

An American Woman Stopped Jihad Nidal!

An American Woman Doesn’t take shit off any two bit, mealy mouthed, American hating muslim.

A Woman, An American Woman, bested your guy.


15 posted on 11/06/2009 3:35:58 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: scoobysnak71
He is going to live so someone can put soap in his eyes every other day and occasionally squeeze his colostomy bag so it backs up.
16 posted on 11/06/2009 3:37:52 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: rabidralph

OK, that makes sense. I hope the terrorist dies in much pain.


17 posted on 11/06/2009 3:38:15 PM PST by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com .... I am a rogue nobody. One of millions.)
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To: Saije
The task on Thursday fell to the petite Ms. Munley, a civilian police officer employed by the Army at Fort Hood. Munley had taken part in intensive active-shooter training during the past year.1
Way to go!
18 posted on 11/06/2009 3:40:18 PM PST by _Jim (Conspiracy theories are the tools of the weak-minded.)
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To: animal172
Which is exactly why another high jacking will never occur again. There are a lot more of us on a plane then there are of them. We may all die, but in the end they lose.
You go that right.
19 posted on 11/06/2009 3:41:55 PM PST by _Jim (Conspiracy theories are the tools of the weak-minded.)
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To: Saije
Munley's shots are believed to be the ones that stopped the alleged gunman, Army psychiatrist Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan.

When does a perp stop being 'alleged' gunman? We may need to put 'alleged motive' as it needs some probes, but aren't we 100% sure whether he was the gunman?

20 posted on 11/06/2009 3:42:03 PM PST by paudio (Road to hell is paved by unintended consequences of good intentions)
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To: Saije
she needs to reproduce and have those warrior genes pass on. Going towards gunfire is not normal. Having the training and cool head to fire under duress , four rounds hitting the target ..... damn fine shooting.

I hope she gets a citation, a hug and pay raise. What a woman.

God Bless her and let's all pray for her recovery. Anything can still happen... post op infection, blood clots so let's just thank God for her cool head and offer up a prayer for all the men and women touched by this worthless, sniveling, parasite of a muzzie man.

21 posted on 11/06/2009 3:45:18 PM PST by erman (Give a man a fire, warm him for one night. Set a man on fire, warm him for the rest of his life.)
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To: GeronL
r did the terrorist go to VT?

Did you read the article before posting or just the headline?

22 posted on 11/06/2009 3:45:21 PM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Governement should be afraid of the people)
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To: Vendome

I heard on the news that she is also a Mom. God Bless her.


23 posted on 11/06/2009 3:47:52 PM PST by sockmonkey
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To: Saije

She is awesome. God Bless her. She is a very brave woman and I’m very proud of her and that she took him down I heard on the radio today that the terrorist prayed 5 times a day and would not permit his photo to be taken with a woman in the picture. I hope he KNOWS it was a woman who stopped his attack.


24 posted on 11/06/2009 3:51:33 PM PST by Qwackertoo (ACORN is going down, down, down~!!!! Finally~!!!!)
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To: Saije
It's great that Fort Hood learned something from Virginia Tech.

What a shame that Virginia Tech learned nothing from Columbine.

25 posted on 11/06/2009 3:51:48 PM PST by William Tell
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To: erman

Maybe the TOTUS should give her a medal!


26 posted on 11/06/2009 3:51:58 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

I generally skim but this time I wanted the “easy way” out

I knew one of them had, but sometimes info vannishes from the neurons


27 posted on 11/06/2009 3:54:59 PM PST by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com .... I am a rogue nobody. One of millions.)
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To: Saije

Thank you American Hero.


28 posted on 11/06/2009 3:55:20 PM PST by FlyingEagle
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To: erman
erman said: "... damn fine shooting. "

Absolutely.

I do wonder why she wasn't armed with a shotgun or an AR-15. Was she on foot patrol when the call came in?

29 posted on 11/06/2009 3:55:35 PM PST by William Tell
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To: rabidralph

Where’d you get that? This whole article is about lessons learned by the response to the VT shooter, and how those lessons led to new training, specifically at Ft. Hood and training received by the officer who took down the Ft. Hood shooter. Nobody’s talking about going to school at VT.


30 posted on 11/06/2009 3:59:26 PM PST by visualops (Freepin' Pre!)
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To: animal172

Twenty years ago I was discussing the differences between Mulim and Western culture with a Pakistani co-worker.

He asked me why Muslim planes never got hijacked.

When I said I didn’t know, he said “Because the Muslim pilot would crash the plane rather than allow the hijacker to succeed.”

While I took that statement with a grain of salt, we need to understand the different way these people think in order to fight them effectively.

Being docile and wanting to compromise only emboldens the jihadists.


31 posted on 11/06/2009 4:18:52 PM PST by BigBobber
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To: GeronL

I believe they used the horror at VT to teach new techniques.


32 posted on 11/06/2009 4:19:05 PM PST by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: William Tell

VT continues to insist that their campus be ‘gun free’.

The idiocy is mindboggling.


33 posted on 11/06/2009 4:21:04 PM PST by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: Vendome

She doesn’t have any balls, but she’s an ass kicker.
God bless her and may she have a good recovery and peace in her life.


34 posted on 11/06/2009 4:24:08 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: scoobysnak71

I say dig the phucker up and feed him to some pigs!


35 posted on 11/06/2009 4:25:18 PM PST by Stayfree (FLUSHTHE WHITE HOUSE AND CONGRESS BECAUSE THEY ARE FULL OF IT!!)
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To: Stayfree

We got to kill it first!

I agree he should be fed to the pigs ...

I think we should let the pigs kill it!


36 posted on 11/06/2009 4:40:31 PM PST by Randy Larsen ( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!)
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To: visualops

Fox News said he went to Va. Tech last night. Where do you think that goofy black and white picture came from?


37 posted on 11/06/2009 4:41:05 PM PST by rabidralph (http://www.thealaskafundtrust.com/ http://www.sarahpac.com)
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To: Saije

I hope that the MSM is not going to badmouth Officer Munley and call her a ‘21st Century Crusader’.


38 posted on 11/06/2009 4:41:35 PM PST by 353FMG (Save the Planet -- Eliminate Socialism)
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To: visualops
Don't be so hysterical
39 posted on 11/06/2009 4:48:13 PM PST by rabidralph (http://www.thealaskafundtrust.com/ http://www.sarahpac.com)
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To: Saije
Gosh golly, you mean there are cops out there who understand the job is INHERENTLY dangerous and might require you to go in against bad odds and shoot it out anyhow???

What, no "wait and see" Columbine-style response? I always find it sad to see cops on TV who say their overriding priority is to make it home each night unharmed. To me, that's a sign that you need to find a different job.

Coming from a family with several members in law enforcement, my family members' uniform belief was that they wanted to protect and serve. They understood the risks, but felt they were worth taking. Their overriding concern was to confront criminal behavior and stop it, even at risk to themselves. They were not reckless cops, but they would not stand by and listen to people getting shot at.

40 posted on 11/06/2009 4:49:28 PM PST by Panzerfaust
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To: rabidralph

Well, in all the coverage I never heard that. I am not hysterical. I’m a little peculiar, but not hysterical.


41 posted on 11/06/2009 4:55:25 PM PST by visualops (Freepin' Pre!)
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To: Saije

‘You’ll fight as you train’ is certainly a truism, isn’t it?


42 posted on 11/06/2009 4:56:53 PM PST by El Sordo
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To: Vendome

Ha! Love it!!!

the only two countries where women are tough fighters....America and Israel.


43 posted on 11/06/2009 5:00:47 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Pray for Israel! And Georgia ! And the Iranian people! and Honduras!)
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To: visualops

Okie doke. Things were moving pretty quickly last night, as you know, and so little details drop off after a while. In the same way, in a few days, the media will stop asking if they guy said allahu akbar and they’ll just pretend as if it never happened.


44 posted on 11/06/2009 5:15:46 PM PST by rabidralph (http://www.thealaskafundtrust.com/ http://www.sarahpac.com)
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To: William Tell

She was taking her car to the repair shop. It says so in the above story.


45 posted on 11/06/2009 5:17:36 PM PST by rabidralph (http://www.thealaskafundtrust.com/ http://www.sarahpac.com)
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To: Saije

I hope I get to see Hussein, famously remembered for his “the cops acted stupidly” comment, having to present a medal to this hero cop for taking down one of his Muslim buddies.


46 posted on 11/06/2009 5:26:04 PM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: scoobysnak71

isn’t Hasan still alive?


47 posted on 11/06/2009 5:29:32 PM PST by tioga ( November 6, 2012 - Cannot come soon enough.)
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To: sockmonkey
"I heard on the news that she is also a Mom."

She saved another cop's life back in 2000. Here's the FR link:

Fort Hood heroine saved Wrightsville Beach detective's life

48 posted on 11/06/2009 5:31:54 PM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Saije
For the rest of her life...

Kimberly Munley will be under the watchful eye of a grateful group of fatigue wearing guardian angels.

49 posted on 11/06/2009 5:32:04 PM PST by Tex-Con-Man
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To: tioga

Yeah, and his "Brother" muzzie is POTUS

50 posted on 11/06/2009 5:33:06 PM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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