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Democrats clear impasse blocking health care vote
AP ^ | 11/08/09

Posted on 11/06/2009 9:19:50 PM PST by truthandlife

House Democrats have cleared an impasse over abortion that has been holding up a vote on sweeping health care legislation.

A vote is expected on Saturday - after President Barack Obama makes a late morning trip to the Capitol to make one final pitch for the legislation.

According to Rep. Bart Stupak of Michigan, he and other abortion opponents will be given a chance to insert tougher abortion restrictions into the legislation during debate on the House floor.

The leadership hopes that no matter how that vote turns out, Democrats will then unite to give the health care bill a majority over unanimous Republican opposition.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.

WASHINGTON (AP) - House Democrats have cleared an impasse over abortion that has been holding up a vote on sweeping health care legislation.

A vote is expected on Saturday - after President Barack Obama makes a late morning trip to the Capitol to make one final pitch for the legislation.

According to Rep. Bart Stupak of Michigan, he and other abortion opponents will be given a chance to insert tougher abortion restrictions into the legislation during debate on the House floor.

The leadership hopes that no matter how that vote turns out, Democrats will then unite to give the health care bill a majority over unanimous Republican opposition.


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KEYWORDS: 111th; abortion; bartstupak; bhohealthcare; healthcare; leftist; markschauer; partyofdeath; ratbastards; schauer; stupak
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1 posted on 11/06/2009 9:19:50 PM PST by truthandlife
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To: truthandlife
"will be given a chance"..."the leadership hopes no matter how the vote turns out".

Spin, lies, propaganda, and wishful thinking.

2 posted on 11/06/2009 9:22:01 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

More AP jive.


3 posted on 11/06/2009 9:25:14 PM PST by fantom (,)
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To: truthandlife

And they will own it. Along with 5-year prison terms and $250,000 fines for not buying insurance. It should be wrapped around the neck of every single representative that votes for it next November.


4 posted on 11/06/2009 9:25:25 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: truthandlife
Brunch will be served.

R.S.V.P.


5 posted on 11/06/2009 9:26:15 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: 17th Miss Regt

Liberal laws, political correctness, Democrats, RINOs, Saudi money, corrupt judges, CAIR, Muslim Brotherhood, liberal media, spinless joint chiefs, et al mudered those troops yesterday.

The Democrats are the party of corruption and Islam.


6 posted on 11/06/2009 9:28:32 PM PST by Frantzie (Judge David Carter - democrat & dishonorable Marine like John Murtha.)
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To: truthandlife
"A vote is expected on Saturday - after President Barack Obama makes a late morning trip to the Capitol to make one final pitch for the legislation."

I don't know about anyone else but I plan to thumb my nose at any of this. I don't how yet but I am an American and won't be stepped on by by a African Muslim.

7 posted on 11/06/2009 9:29:00 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: truthandlife

9 posted on 11/06/2009 9:30:14 PM PST by tflabo
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To: truthandlife

Never believe for one second that the Democrats will allow anything with real anti-abortion teeth into their Final Solution for the American People.


10 posted on 11/06/2009 9:30:37 PM PST by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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To: truthandlife

Mark Schauer(D) Michigan better reserve your moving truck because you will be coming back to Michigan a private citizen after 2010, you fricking rat a**hole.


11 posted on 11/06/2009 9:31:03 PM PST by wetgundog (" Extremism in the Defense of Liberty is no Vice")
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To: fantom

Source National Review —http://www.nationalreview.com/doctor/

Stupak Amendment Proffered To Rules Committee [Robert Costa]

Pro-life Democratic Rep. Bart Stupak of Michigan is presenting his amendment to the Rules Committee now. “We wish to maintain current law,” he says, referencing the Hyde amendment. “It is not the time to rewrite policy.” There will now be much debate within both parties about what kind of deal, if any, that Stupak made and whether insurers will be able to find ways to get around the amendment’s legislative language.


12 posted on 11/06/2009 9:31:16 PM PST by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: Debacled

They’ll all be looking for jobs soon, those Bucking Fastards.


13 posted on 11/06/2009 9:32:23 PM PST by historyrepeatz
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To: truthandlife

Keep up the pressure. This thing is so close to failure :-) - just a few here and a few there and pretty soon we’ll have 41 dems opposed.


14 posted on 11/06/2009 9:34:31 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: historyrepeatz

Oh and.. What’s the difference between a pro-socialized healthcare Democrat and a suicide bomber?

Nothing.


15 posted on 11/06/2009 9:34:35 PM PST by historyrepeatz
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To: truthandlife

So, they’re already thinking of ways to make it obsolete with loopholes around the Hyde amendment.


16 posted on 11/06/2009 9:34:56 PM PST by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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To: historyrepeatz
"What’s the difference between a pro-socialized healthcare Democrat and a suicide bomber?"

In either case you could wind up dead.

17 posted on 11/06/2009 9:38:22 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: historyrepeatz

I think we need to start referring to this as the Democrats “Final Solution of the American Question”


18 posted on 11/06/2009 9:39:10 PM PST by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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To: blackbart.223
An open letter to Washington, D.C.

This letter is published to advise the federal government in Washington D.C. that this SOVEREIGN AMERICAN will NOT submit to the marxist/communist coup currently taking place in Washington, D.C., and will ACTIVELY OPPOSE IT.

This SOVEREIGN AMERICAN will IGNORE any laws, rules or regulations that come from Washington D.C. that further restrict the FREEDOM and LIBERTY of individuals, and will in the future IGNORE any PREVIOUS, UNConstitutional laws, rules or regulations that have restricted the FREEDOM and LIBERTY of individuals in this country.

Further, this SOVEREIGN AMERICAN will encourage others to ignore any laws, rules or regulations that restrict the FREEDOM and LIBERTY of any individual in this country.

Whether the laws relate to "health insurance mandates", gun laws, environmental law or any other "law" that restricts INDIVIDUAL Americans from utilizing their own personal property, or that restricts what we can eat, or how much, what we can drink, what type of toilet we are "required" to have, what we can or cannot say, what we can think, how we must provide "service" to ANYONE, how much we can donate to our favorite charities, who we can associate with, I'm here to tell you to take all your "demands," your "laws, rules and regulations" and print them out, then fold the printout until it is all sharp corners AND SHOVE IT UP YOUR COLLECTIVE ASSES! I WILL NOT COMPLY!

Toward FREEDOM!

19 posted on 11/06/2009 9:39:51 PM PST by Neil E. Wright (An OATH is FOREVER (NRA member) 3%)
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To: historyrepeatz

They must think their vote fraud machine will be in tip top order a year from now.

Voting the dead or those who’ve moved away and won’t screw up the records by ‘voting twice’ on absentee ballots, hacking into voting machines etc.


20 posted on 11/06/2009 9:41:21 PM PST by Let's Roll (Stop paying ACORN to destroy America! Cut off their government funding!)
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To: truthandlife
A vote is expected on Saturday - after President Barack Obama makes a late morning trip to the Capitol to make one final pitch for the legislation.

Yeah - that's why Obama couldn't go to Fort Hood - the Hill visit and "healthcare" take precedence over a US terrorist attack.
21 posted on 11/06/2009 9:41:33 PM PST by khnyny (Bill Clinton and Barack Obama are both lefties:))
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To: Neil E. Wright

It is sad that has come to this again. Too many lost blood in the cause of liberty only for it to come to this. I don’t understand it.


22 posted on 11/06/2009 9:46:40 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: truthandlife

United States of America

R.I.P.

07-04-1776 to 11-07-2009


23 posted on 11/06/2009 9:49:24 PM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: khnyny
"Yeah - that's why Obama couldn't go to Fort Hood - the Hill visit and "healthcare" take precedence over a US terrorist attack."

Obama can't condemn one of his muslim brothers. It would be against his nature. This guy is dangerous. Make no mistake.

24 posted on 11/06/2009 9:50:55 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: truthandlife
They need 218 to pass. The fight is over which “Blue Dogs” or other vulnerable can vote no to cover themselves.

The abortion is the Bill itself, not the bogus concern about abortion funding.

25 posted on 11/06/2009 9:51:49 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: truthandlife

Nonsense.


26 posted on 11/06/2009 9:55:37 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: broken_arrow1

Remember it still has to pass the Senate. I truly believe this will be the issue that will decimate the Democrats in 2010. I am actually glad they passed it in the House. It will motivate conservative voters more and more to get out and vote these bums out.


27 posted on 11/06/2009 9:57:00 PM PST by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: Sunsong

We already have 70. This is just noise.


28 posted on 11/06/2009 9:57:30 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: Frantzie

So which rinos are voting for this bill ?


29 posted on 11/06/2009 9:59:47 PM PST by staytrue
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To: truthandlife
Pray for our nation's soul.
30 posted on 11/06/2009 10:01:15 PM PST by oneolcop (Lead, Follow or Get the hell out of the way!)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

Just to make sure I understand you. You are saying that we already have 70 dem votes opposing the house healthcare bill?


31 posted on 11/06/2009 10:03:21 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: historyrepeatz

It still has to go to the Senate..right?


32 posted on 11/06/2009 10:07:08 PM PST by Hildy
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To: truthandlife
A vote is expected on Saturday

So is all this talk about a Tuesday vote just a misdirection play? If so, Seems like Queen Nancy is taking full advantage of the nation's Ft. Hood distraction to sneak this in.

33 posted on 11/06/2009 10:07:25 PM PST by montag813 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. -George Orwell)
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To: Sunsong

Yes.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2380354/posts

And if you think the abortion number is going to change anything without the other side making up for the change or worse, you’ve got another thing coming.

This has been at an impasse for months and that hasn’t changed and isn’t going to change.


34 posted on 11/06/2009 10:07:41 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: montag813

There will be no Saturday vote unless the leadership feels like being embarrassed on the floor.


35 posted on 11/06/2009 10:08:49 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: truthandlife

The American people voted for this on Nov. 4, 2008, and they have no one to blame but their silly, greedy selves.


36 posted on 11/06/2009 10:10:07 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: truthandlife

I doubt that any amendment on abortion would be accepted by the far left. This is still dead.

Kill the Bill!


37 posted on 11/06/2009 10:10:30 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Sunsong

Wouldn’t it be interesting if a dozen GOP votes made the difference for passage? Wouldn’t surprise me.


38 posted on 11/06/2009 10:11:23 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: Theodore R.

Stop blaming people and start trying to convince them. If you don’t do that, you’re part of the problem and not part of the solution.


39 posted on 11/06/2009 10:11:59 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: blackbart.223

He’s not dangerous to the American people. They truly believe he is “protecting” their “peace and safety”.


40 posted on 11/06/2009 10:12:24 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
Thanks for the info!

I'm continuing to pray:-)

Pelosi and Obama have a lot of *tools* at their disposal to change minds. I so want you to be correct about this. I can think of nothing more wonderful than having this house bill killed this weekend!

41 posted on 11/06/2009 10:13:30 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: blackbart.223
I don't know about anyone else but I plan to thumb my nose at any of this.

In protest, we could all pick one day and yank all our money out of the bank in the form of a cashier check.

Of course, this could be considered conspiracy to commit treason as it might destroy the US banking system if enough people did that.

42 posted on 11/06/2009 10:15:30 PM PST by staytrue
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To: Sunsong

Keep calling and reminding your representative that you are against the plan. That and all of our prayers just might get us through this. :)


43 posted on 11/06/2009 10:15:34 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: truthandlife

Which would be removed in conference. duh.


44 posted on 11/06/2009 10:18:49 PM PST by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com .... I am a rogue nobody. One of millions.)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
My rep is Matheson (D Utah) I called today and his office said he was voting no. But I'll keep up my work on this and pray hard :-)

Thanks again :-)

45 posted on 11/06/2009 10:19:42 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: Sunsong

Not getting any sleep tonight either because of this monstrosity. :(

I find that when I attempt sleep, i remember more vivid details about the bill I read today, and “what could happen 5 years from now” if we let it pass.


46 posted on 11/06/2009 10:20:56 PM PST by Soothesayer9
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To: staytrue

So far, in the House, none that I know of are supporting this. How many will vote for it without saying they will? Who knows.


47 posted on 11/06/2009 10:24:26 PM PST by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com .... I am a rogue nobody. One of millions.)
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To: staytrue

None. Boehner says the whole GOP is voting no.

This is a Dem debacle


48 posted on 11/06/2009 10:25:56 PM PST by hattend (Palin Power... shape of an Eagle!)
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To: Soothesayer9

I haven’t slept well in a year. Wish I was exagerating, but, I am not. I sympathize, and wish you well deserved rest.


49 posted on 11/06/2009 10:34:09 PM PST by sybilll
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To: truthandlife

Looks like the soapbox is no longer an option.


50 posted on 11/06/2009 10:34:37 PM PST by glock rocks (Wait, what?)
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