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Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options (Pelosi breaks word to Rep Buyer no amendments)
REPUBLICAN PRESS RELEASE ^ | November 6, 2009 | Rep Buyer abd Rep McKeon

Posted on 11/07/2009 1:38:00 PM PST by Former Military Chick

Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options

Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries

Washington, D.C. — Today, House Committee on Veterans’ Affairs Ranking Member Steve Buyer and House Armed Services Committee Ranking Member Howard P. “Buck” McKeon offered three amendments to the Pelosi healthcare bill that would protect America’s Veterans and military TRICARE beneficiaries. The healthcare legislation, which is expected to be voted on in the full House in the coming days limits veteran’s and service member’s health care choices and places veterans and military health care unnecessarily at risk by not clearly excluding military and veterans health care from the requirements of the bill.

“In addition to being fundamentally opposed to a sweeping government takeover of health care, I also strongly object to the bill that was unveiled today because it would limit veterans’ ability to choose a health care provider,” said Rep. Buyer. “The liberty and freedom upon which our nation is founded was paid for through the sacrifices of veterans, and I find it outrageous that the government veterans defended would presume to dictate where and how they obtain health care. This is not the type of government veterans have fought and died for.”

“America must remain vigilant in our efforts to provide the necessary support to our Veterans, military retirees, and current military personnel,” said Rep. McKeon. “The Democrat healthcare bill that will be voted on in the coming days creates unnecessary uncertainty for our Veterans and military families that their healthcare options will be unfairly limited. Our amendments make certain—in the strongest terms possible—that our nation’s heroes will continue to have options, while protecting their rights to maintain their current high-quality options if they so choose.”

Reps. Buyer and McKeon offered the following three amendments to ensure that our veterans, servicemembers, and their families are not hurt by the bill:

· Buyer/McKeon Amendment #001: Would add a new subsection to provide explicitly that veterans enrolled in the VA health care and TRICARE beneficiaries may choose additional health insurance through the “Health Insurance Exchange”, along with care provided by VA or DOD.

The bill reads: “(a) ACCESS TO COVERAGE. – In accordance with this section, all individuals are eligible to obtain coverage through enrollment in an Exchange-participating health benefits plan offered through the Health Insurance Exchange unless such individuals are enrolled in another qualified health benefits plan or certain other acceptable coverage.” [page 156, line 11-16].

Under H.R. 3962, VA health care and TRICARE would be deemed "qualified" coverage. The problem with the language is that it is ambiguous and can be interpreted to disqualify individuals enrolled in VA health care or TRICARE from participating in the exchange.

This amendment was accepted at the Energy and Commerce Committee markup, but the Democratic Leadership failed to include it in H.R. 3962.

· Buyer/McKeon Amendment #002: Would ensure that the authority of the Secretary of VA and Secretary of DOD could never be challenged or obstructed by any provision in the bill or by a secretary or commissioner from another part of government.

As currently written, H.R. 3962 would provide that the Secretary of Defense and the Secretary of VA retain sole authority over their respective health care systems only with respect to Subtitle A, the Health Insurance Exchange. This was the original Buyer Amendment adopted in Energy and Commerce Committee. However, it was limited to “Subtitle A” because of germaneness requirements. The intent was that as the Committee bills were merged, the language would be revised to encompass the entire bill.

The section-by-section analysis on the Energy and Commerce Committee Website states that Section 311 “makes clear that nothing in this act interferes with the Department of Veterans Affairs or Department of Defense’s existing authorities.”

In fact, this description is incorrect and our amendment would provide that the bill conform to the website’s assertion.

· Buyer/McKeon Amendment #003: Would amend section 342 of the bill to allow individuals enrolled in VA health care and TRICARE to be eligible for affordable tax credits.

Currently, H.R. 3962 defines an “affordable credit eligible individual” as one who is not enrolled in acceptable coverage – which would exclude individuals enrolled in VA health care or TRICARE.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: congress; pelosi; tricare; veteran
Rep Buyer went onto the house floor at 3:43 PM EST 11/07/09 (can be found on CSPAN.org) where he talked about all of them returning home to celebrate Veterans Day throwing your arms around the service member, but, when they see what this bill does their inability to have a choice; for veterans to have the choice in this country of their health care, he said they should be ashamed of themselves.

When Buyer finished his one minute speech HUGE APPLAUSE!!

Waxman addressed Buyer "we allow veterans to keep their benefits but if they want to go to the exchange they can".

Then the speaker dressed down the republicans and told them to abide by the rules, all the GOP wanted was the answer "who was going to protect veterans!"

Pelosi said along with the leadership this would be addressed but alas last night his amendments were voted down in the rules committee. This is the most outrageous group of thugs that I have witnessed when it comes to the majority sitting as the gate keeper of laws of this fine country.

By the way MR WAXMAN I am so grateful you allow us to keep our benefits a right we earned serving this fine country.

1 posted on 11/07/2009 1:38:00 PM PST by Former Military Chick
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To: Former Military Chick

Pelosi is possessed. That’s the only way to explain her. Get an exorcist, a good one, and be prepared for a fight.


2 posted on 11/07/2009 1:41:13 PM PST by pallis
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To: Former Military Chick

I said years ago, that eventually, in the end, all we would have left is the retirement check. Now with the scum sucking pig in the White House, spending like a drunk muzzie terrorist, I doubt there will be money for that. So, enjoy old age, cause we ain’t gonna get a damned dime for the service we did.


3 posted on 11/07/2009 1:42:50 PM PST by RetiredArmy (It's simple. The Second Coming is near. READ the Bible and what IT says about these times!)
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To: pallis
If there is a word beyond hate then that it what I feel towards that bitch pelosi.

Sorry Admin Moderator.
4 posted on 11/07/2009 1:43:26 PM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: Former Military Chick
Waxman lies through his teeth like the rest of them.

The end game is to use taxes and regulation to force everyone onto the public "option".

I knew from the beginning that the military folks would be forced into this hell hole.

5 posted on 11/07/2009 1:43:49 PM PST by FlyVet
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To: pallis

Pelosi is mentally ill.


6 posted on 11/07/2009 1:46:17 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Darkwolf377; Hypo; GunnyB; truth_seeker; MestaMachine; skr; freema

In the event you are currently serving, know somebody who has served this is amazing and again with the way this is being pushed through nobody would know about it and this is why they are breaking their word and will not publish the final bill on the web for 72 hours.

If you get a chance pull up the C-SPAN video it is just amazing.


7 posted on 11/07/2009 1:47:29 PM PST by Former Military Chick (Please pray for our troops as they selflessly serve in harm's way say an extra one for my beloved!)
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To: Former Military Chick

It’s bad. Take names and never forget.


8 posted on 11/07/2009 1:49:50 PM PST by niteowl77 (You wanted him, and now you have got him. I say, "Good day to you," America.)
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To: mojitojoe

No...Pelosi is EVIL.


9 posted on 11/07/2009 1:49:51 PM PST by goodnesswins (Become a Precinct Committee Person/Officer....in the GOP...or do NOT complain.)
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To: RetiredArmy

My father-law is also retired Army, he has been going round and round with hearing aides, first set defective, then the second defective and it is now going on a year.

Oh the great military health care we have, and of course let’s not fix the military/veterans care let’s just increase the governments involvment and give it to everyone.

Thank you for your service.


10 posted on 11/07/2009 1:51:10 PM PST by Former Military Chick (Please pray for our troops as they selflessly serve in harm's way say an extra one for my beloved!)
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To: goodnesswins
No...Pelosi is EVIL.

Pelosi is an idiot...nothing more or less. You give her way to much credit.

11 posted on 11/07/2009 1:52:15 PM PST by Snurple (VEGETARIAN, OLD INDIAN WORD FOR BAD HUNTER.)
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To: FlyVet

When I called my local congress critter’s what they always said to me “it will not decrease our current care” so I guess they knew what they were fighting against and it is an uphill battle.

Healthcare opportunities for all folks oh yeah not our bravest to have choice. WOW


12 posted on 11/07/2009 1:53:15 PM PST by Former Military Chick (Please pray for our troops as they selflessly serve in harm's way say an extra one for my beloved!)
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To: RetiredArmy

oathkeepers.org


13 posted on 11/07/2009 1:54:23 PM PST by weps4ret (Where is John Galt?)
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To: Former Military Chick

But we’ll be able to send soldiers who fought in the illegal war to Muslim shrinks to “get their heads right.” :)


14 posted on 11/07/2009 1:54:44 PM PST by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: niteowl77

Oh, I know who has been naughty and nice, better terms for posting, and they will find pink slips next November. When I am certain my local congress critters are safe for reelection I going one state over to ensure that Skelton does not return and I am doing this for personal reason’s.


15 posted on 11/07/2009 1:57:22 PM PST by Former Military Chick (Please pray for our troops as they selflessly serve in harm's way say an extra one for my beloved!)
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To: Former Military Chick

I HAVE JUST, ON ANOTHER THREAD, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2381078/posts WELCOMED HOME A YOUNG MARINE FRESHLY BACK FROM IRAQ. THIS IS WHAT HE COMES HOME TO? THERE IS A PLACE IN HELL FOR THESE !@^%#$@$#s.
I swear to heaven, hate is supposed to be a sin, but I just can’t help it.


16 posted on 11/07/2009 2:01:04 PM PST by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1, 4 if by Thread.)
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To: MestaMachine

Hating evil is not sin.


17 posted on 11/07/2009 2:07:57 PM PST by Waryone (If the democrats paid taxes like the rest of us, the United States wouldn't have a deficit.)
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To: Former Military Chick

Oh, GOD!!! They announced that bam and his mate are going to attend the Memorial at Fort Hood. Somebody help me!!!

YES!!! I am hysterical!!!!!!!!!!!


18 posted on 11/07/2009 2:08:49 PM PST by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1, 4 if by Thread.)
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To: MestaMachine

How wonderful to weclome home our finest this way, FR, has always stepped up for our service member’s.

Having said that, when you see what the House is doing, when you listen to Rep Buyer and encourage that you do, and the response from the dem’s and the gallery you feel like saying &^%* and %^$%* and wanting to sling something into the TV, MestaMachine I understand your anger.


19 posted on 11/07/2009 2:09:56 PM PST by Former Military Chick (Please pray for our troops as they selflessly serve in harm's way say an extra one for my beloved!)
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To: MestaMachine

Yes, there is a thread, Obama will go to the memorial, while we do not support this Prez, they do attend events like this, Oklahoma bombing comes to mind.

My problem, Obama has used these events as a photo op so one just can’t believe he is going there for the grief and compassion of those at the installation.

Bush and his wife went yesterday, asked that it not be be covered by the press, that this was personal, and afterall they live about 30 miles from Ft. Hood.


20 posted on 11/07/2009 2:13:42 PM PST by Former Military Chick (Please pray for our troops as they selflessly serve in harm's way say an extra one for my beloved!)
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To: Former Military Chick

Yes, I am beyond angry. I watched CSPAN as much today as I could take. After this week, I just damn them all. Every last stinking one of them, and I just can’t look at them anymore right now.
To top it off, my congressman is john murtha. It doesn’t get much worse than that.


21 posted on 11/07/2009 2:20:53 PM PST by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1, 4 if by Thread.)
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To: randomhero97

If your in the military or retired, you are a prime target to get the purple shaft.


22 posted on 11/07/2009 2:23:13 PM PST by boomop1
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To: Former Military Chick
EMAIL BLUE DOGS- just copy and past and send to ALL the Blue dogs at once !!!!
23 posted on 11/07/2009 2:25:49 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Former Military Chick

BTW, your tagline. Prayers for your beloved. Count on it.


24 posted on 11/07/2009 2:27:23 PM PST by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1, 4 if by Thread.)
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To: Former Military Chick

I’ve been watching most of the House discussion and am amazed. People should be watching . . . there are some VERY OLD LOOKING Congresspeople who can barely speak and who need to be replaced . . . preferably by young Conservatives.

So many lies coming from the Democrats that it’s amazing they aren’t struck dead by lightening.


25 posted on 11/07/2009 2:36:27 PM PST by HighlyOpinionated (Abortion-Euthanasia kills the very people for whom Social Justice is needed.)
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To: MestaMachine
To top it off, my congressman is john murtha. It doesn’t get much worse than that.

I'm afraid it does. MY Congressman told the folks from our district who met with him on Thursday that he wants the US system of health care to be more like CUBA'S! He's a big pro-abortion, pro-union guy.

26 posted on 11/07/2009 2:41:14 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: pallis
Pelosi is possessed. That’s the only way to explain her. Get an exorcist, a good one, and be prepared for a fight.

Alternate explanation: there are powerful interests (SEIU, Soros, whoever) who want the bill done a certain way, and they hold her future in her hands.

She has no interest in what the American People want. She is the property of the people who own her future.

27 posted on 11/07/2009 2:42:19 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: HighlyOpinionated
I just saw, on Fox, the exchange between John Boehner and Charlie Rangel, where Boehner asked Mr. Rangel to GUARANTEE that if abortion funding is taken out today, that it wouldn't be put BACK in, during the mark up sessions. Basically, Rangel laughed in his face.

The Blue Dogs might think they have 'cover' if the Stupak amendment passes, but Bela Pelosi, et al, will make SURE that funding for abortion is in the final bill. That's why I'm hoping the Blue Dogs won't fall for the tricks, and will vote against the whole thing!

28 posted on 11/07/2009 2:44:14 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: PapaBear3625

She is a rich bitch who doesn’t need a future. This is for power and power ONLY. She has got to be one of the most evil women on the planet, and that is as much of an understatement as I can manage right now.


29 posted on 11/07/2009 2:46:37 PM PST by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1, 4 if by Thread.)
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To: SuziQ

You’re right. I guess it’s a coin toss without enough coins. They are ALL bad.


30 posted on 11/07/2009 2:48:14 PM PST by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1, 4 if by Thread.)
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To: Snurple

Pelosi is a crazy idiot!


31 posted on 11/07/2009 2:55:23 PM PST by lonestar (Obama and his czars have turned Bush's "mess" into a national crisis!)
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To: pallis
Pelosi sold her soul to the devil...her crazy doll eyes, her stuttering, her nonsensical statements...she is out of control and under the control of her master.
32 posted on 11/07/2009 3:32:50 PM PST by itssme
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To: randomhero97

“If there is a word beyond hate then that it what I feel towards that bitch pelosi.”

Good for you. It’s always good to call a spade a spade. They are what they are.


33 posted on 11/07/2009 4:15:50 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: Former Military Chick
Look what's going to happen to our retired Military on top of this monster.

This from a google search: http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html

This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.)

http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf

We are on both Medicare and TFL (hubby did his 20 in the Navy) this will halve our monthly income plus leave us with higher medical cost! We both have minor health problems that require our going to the doctor at least twice a year, just to get our RX's renewed. And it's a good year when we only have the two visits.

34 posted on 11/07/2009 5:25:21 PM PST by GailA (Quilts for the Alpha Omega House for Veterans....I'm a quilt-aholic!!!)
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To: Former Military Chick
I've been trying to get TRL to pay for my synthroid for a year, they will pay for the generic (which causes mouth ulcers and your hair to fall out!), but not the name brand synthroid, you need "prior approval". Two of my friends get their name brand synthroid paid for by TRL, but I can't get it for some unknown reason. A pimple faced 25 year old government employee making health care determinations I guess.

I wear a partial plate and can't afford mouth ulcers, much less want my hair to fall out. Took only 3 days for the mouth ulcers to start forming on the generic.

35 posted on 11/07/2009 5:30:45 PM PST by GailA (Quilts for the Alpha Omega House for Veterans....I'm a quilt-aholic!!!)
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To: Former Military Chick

I’m not military myself, but was married to a Navy man (retired after 20) and am now a widow and this affects me too!
This makes me sick, the way these vipers are twisting writhing like snakes and taking advantage of America and Americans.


36 posted on 11/07/2009 7:24:07 PM PST by Shimmer1 (Froggie sez water nice and warm)
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To: MestaMachine

Thank you my beloved appreciates the prayer’s of his fellow American’s as do I, I come from a patriotic family, my father a West Point grad died in service to our amazing country, I have served in the United States Air Force, a very proud moment when my father swore me in, I am now the proud wife of one of our finest and I hope all his efforts are not discounted as this Prez makes future decisions when it comes to our proud MILITARY!!!!


37 posted on 11/07/2009 8:23:59 PM PST by Former Military Chick (Please pray for our troops as they selflessly serve in harm's way say an extra one for my beloved!)
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To: SuziQ

SuziQ, LTNS and I am so sorry for your elected official who seems to be very unAmerican. I hope there is a way for next years election to remove him from office. Best of luck! -Chele


38 posted on 11/07/2009 8:27:18 PM PST by Former Military Chick (Please pray for our troops as they selflessly serve in harm's way say an extra one for my beloved!)
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To: Shimmer1

Shimmer1, please take my words from the bottom of my heart, I thank your beloved for his service to this amazing country. I very much understand your frustration, my heart is touched by those who have served, those who’s spouses have passes away, the action’s of the few affect the many, military vet’s, active duty military have a voice and we MUST convey it, for the future of those who raise their hand and give the oath to this, the most amazing country in the world.

Again, I appreciate the service of your beloved and the courage of sharing your thoughts. My prayers go out to you and yours! - Chele


39 posted on 11/07/2009 8:32:28 PM PST by Former Military Chick (Please pray for our troops as they selflessly serve in harm's way say an extra one for my beloved!)
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To: SuziQ

The Stupak bill passes AMEN for those dem’s who decided to cross the lines. Life trumps and I hope it does in the future.


40 posted on 11/07/2009 8:33:51 PM PST by Former Military Chick (Please pray for our troops as they selflessly serve in harm's way say an extra one for my beloved!)
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To: Former Military Chick

You have my prayers, also for your beloved! Nearly all of my uncles served honorably, and my dad during Vietnam war time. Thank you to you and your loved one for your service to our country!


41 posted on 11/07/2009 8:49:37 PM PST by gore_sux_2000
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To: Former Military Chick

Which link at cspan?


42 posted on 11/08/2009 5:43:44 AM PST by freema (MarineNiece,Daughter,Wife,Friend,Sister,Friend,Aunt,Friend,Mother,Friend,Cousin, FRiend)
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