Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Vanity: Let Cool Heads Prevail

Posted on 11/07/2009 7:07:40 PM PST by Patriot2A

My dear Conservatives:

Tonight, as I sit at home sipping some vodka, trying to kill the pain caused by 20 years of wear and tear on my body courtesy of the U.S. Navy, I am watching the debate leading to the vote on Pelosi-care health reform bill. As many of you, I am livid, pissed off, mad and frustrated at the arrogance of our elected officials and their attempts to -once more- subvert the Constitution, impose yet another Federal mandate on the States, and ignore the People's will. I have read some calls to action from people on this forum that, taken out of context, can be used against us, true Conservatives, at a later time. Remember that what you post online today, will remain online forever.

I urge all of us to be patient, let the system work and let your representatives vote according to their conscience(s). If this bill passes, and once it gets signed by the President, we will most likely see that legal challenges to the bill will make it all the way to the SCOTUS. IF and WHEN SCOTUS decides on the constitutionality of this government takeover of 1/6th of the US economy -and we are forced to heed by newly created law by Congress- THEN we can take action AS PROVIDED by the CONSTITUTION in the form of redress, civil disobedience and other tactics.

I am as (or more) passionate about this matter than any of you. I am impatient by nature, and I am pissed off. But we need to measure our words, control our impulses and focus our efforts. WE are BETTER than that! Let the liberals and the fringe left fight it out and make fools of themselves.

Let's be wise, wait for the right moment, choose the time, the place and the method of action...

America is already engaged in an uncivil war of ideas, thanks to class warfare, identity politics, race-baiting and a failing public-education system, courtesy of progressive policies of the last 100 years. So far, the battle has been fought on the lamestream media and the internet. We have taken to the streets by the hundreds of thousands in the form of Tea Parties, townhall meetings, etc.

May God help our Republic if this war ever goes kinetic. The repercussions would be unthinkable and the cost in lives and treasure would be disastrous. Let's not give the libs a reason to pigeonhole us into a category of extremists because of one of our fine-members' visceral (albeit well intended) comments.

But then again, maybe it is time to thin the herd...and renew the tree of liberty.

God bless America and may God bless all of you.


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: constitution; health; obama; pelosi
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-90 next last

1 posted on 11/07/2009 7:07:42 PM PST by Patriot2A
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Patriot2A

NOW you tell me to curb my temper! Where were you a few minutes ago when I sent Jane Velez Mitchell of HSN an email telling her that its Liberals that have destroyed our country.


2 posted on 11/07/2009 7:11:38 PM PST by proudofthesouth (Zero is nothing more than a puppet. Who is pulling his strings?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Patriot2A

Thank you for a thoughtful and sensible writing. However, I’m not sure we have the time to wait.


3 posted on 11/07/2009 7:12:18 PM PST by Bushbacker1 ( I'll miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! The "other" Jim Thompson)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Patriot2A

How about I call my reps and senators constantly and ask them to vote against it. And how about I write letters to the editor of my local paper and let everyone on the net know how I feel about it and complain about it to all my friends and then if that doesn’t work I’ll follow your plan.


4 posted on 11/07/2009 7:12:47 PM PST by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Patriot2A
"May God help our Republic if this war ever goes kinetic."

Indeed.

Good post. Thanks for serving.
5 posted on 11/07/2009 7:12:52 PM PST by Tawiskaro
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Patriot2A

I stand impatiently patient by your side. Would love a sip of the vodka too, but I do not drink. This may change soon!

I will fight this bill to the bitter end.


6 posted on 11/07/2009 7:13:12 PM PST by jcsjcm (American Patriot - follow the Constitution and in God we Trust - Laus Deo)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: proudofthesouth

lol. I’m with you.


7 posted on 11/07/2009 7:14:03 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: proudofthesouth

Not HSN! lol I meant hLn - HLN Headline News....


8 posted on 11/07/2009 7:14:07 PM PST by proudofthesouth (Zero is nothing more than a puppet. Who is pulling his strings?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Patriot2A

I understand what you are saying, but we are now at the point where the language of a bill is significantly more inflammatory than the language you might see here (e.g., jailtime for not buying insurance).


9 posted on 11/07/2009 7:14:31 PM PST by wolf24
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tiki

yep. Action is usually always a preferable road.


10 posted on 11/07/2009 7:15:29 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Patriot2A

Seven Days In May...


11 posted on 11/07/2009 7:17:21 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Patriot2A

This is just the vote on one bill. It’s not law yet. We still have the Senate version and the Conference version to get through. This battle is not over yet. Our chances are better in the Senate anyway. Stay active people. The battle hasn’t ended yet.


12 posted on 11/07/2009 7:17:38 PM PST by Walvoord
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Patriot2A

I somewhat agree, I especially think that are form of protest to events such as this cannot turn to violence.

I think any true change will only come when one state (cough *Texas* cough) decides enough is enough and decides to leave the Union, what will be the final straw and how may states decide to come with are the real questions.


13 posted on 11/07/2009 7:17:55 PM PST by tricky_k_1972 (Putting on Tinfoil hat and heading for the bomb shelter.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: proudofthesouth

LOL...I met Jane VElez in Puerto Rico last summer...she got pissed off when I asked her how long she had been in the news business...she said OVER 20 YEARS, THANK YOU! LOL


14 posted on 11/07/2009 7:17:58 PM PST by Patriot2A (jihad)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Patriot2A
The system is broken. It does not function properly or we would not even be discussing this situation.
15 posted on 11/07/2009 7:18:35 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Beneath this mask there is an idea, Mr. Creedy, and ideas are bulletproof. V for victory)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Patriot2A

Well said. We do not have the money to continue this nonsense. The cupboard is bare, the wallet is empty. They are intent on destroying wealth, private property rights, and personal freedom. It will be twice the fight to regain them once they are gone.

I would like to thank the Republicans for their recent acquisition of a backbone and testicles, but WHERE THE HELL were you when we should have been cutting government growth when you were in power? What were you thinking when your out of control spending was worse than the previous batch of Democrats?

What were you thinking when you told GWB to back off from partially privatizing SS? What were you thinking when you decided Medicare part D was a great idea?


16 posted on 11/07/2009 7:18:38 PM PST by listenhillary (A "cult of personality" arises when a leader uses mass media creating idealized/heroic public image)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tricky_k_1972

are should be our, getting late.


17 posted on 11/07/2009 7:20:03 PM PST by tricky_k_1972 (Putting on Tinfoil hat and heading for the bomb shelter.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Walvoord

That is exactly right. We all work, are busy with family, etc. But the time has come; we cannot fail, falter or slumber. We continue the fight, day by day. The founders did much more and lost much more.


18 posted on 11/07/2009 7:21:19 PM PST by rep-always
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: proudofthesouth

“Not HSN! lol I meant hLn - HLN Headline News....”

LOL! You know things are getting ugly when we start sending faxes and e-mails to Home Shopping Network.


19 posted on 11/07/2009 7:21:40 PM PST by headstamp 2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Patriot2A

I vote for the “But then again”part.Ya’ll put way too much faith in scotus.Remember their lawyers as are most of the political class.


20 posted on 11/07/2009 7:21:46 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Patriot2A

Well I suspect it will go kinetic at some point. I am 62 and I never thought I would see the Republic get into peril so quickly
But the tree of liberty does need to be fed from time to time...


21 posted on 11/07/2009 7:22:48 PM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Patriot2A

The problem is too many people have been too patient for too long. What we see today is the result. Conservatives are a growing force that must not slow down. The fact that this may go to SCOTUS illustrates Congress’s complete disregard for the Constitution. No piece of legislation should ever be deferred to SCOTUS. It is Congress’s responsibility to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution. The judicial branch has become increasingly sympathetic to socialism over the years. The time for civil disobedience is now!!!!!!


22 posted on 11/07/2009 7:23:10 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Patriot2A

We should have been watering that tree for the past couple of years.

A reasonable and thoughtful post, but there are just a few ticks left on the overtime clock before the marching band takes the field.

Scary stuff!


23 posted on 11/07/2009 7:23:47 PM PST by DNME (We are now under a state of national emergency (for H1N1) so Katie bar the door!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Patriot2A

I’m starting to think that the time for ‘cooler heads’ has passed.

We’ve been on the receiving end of a relentless barrage of attacks from the left for the last 40 years on everything we hold dear - every single thing that has made this country the greatest and most powerful country on the face of the Earth. And the assault came not from a foreign enemy, but by an enemy within.

How do you reason and co-exist with an enemy who seeks to destroy anything and everything you hold dear?


24 posted on 11/07/2009 7:24:53 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (Hope....Change...Food Stamps!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: imahawk

In all reality, I believe this country is headed towards a civil war, but I cannot fathom the thought. It may take 1, 5, 10 years but I really think it is unavoidable.

However, I do prepare, like any responsible conservative should prepare, and their children.


25 posted on 11/07/2009 7:25:14 PM PST by Patriot2A (jihad)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: proudofthesouth

I was wondering what the Home Shopping Network had to do with ObamaCommieCare, but I was afraid of the answer...

/shudders at the thought of a face mask with his face on it.


26 posted on 11/07/2009 7:26:49 PM PST by Hexenhammer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Patriot2A

So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong
and to strike at what is weak.
Sun Tsu—Art of War

.........The Red States citizens need to be hammering on their blue politicians.........if not they grow stronger as we wait.....


27 posted on 11/07/2009 7:30:28 PM PST by sbark
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Patriot2A
We have to steel ourselves for that inevitability.Pray for our country and our children.
28 posted on 11/07/2009 7:30:48 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: Patriot2A
Lay off the Sheepahol... you could get bleeped.. before you wake..
I say.. its time to STAMPEDE...
29 posted on 11/07/2009 7:31:27 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: reagan_fanatic

I understand. But who is the enemy? The cops; the teachers, the mailman, the barista, the manager at your local bank? All liberals? I recommend everyone to study the Honduras coup this summer and the Iranian youth revolts of late...a lot to learn from the reaction of this administration to both...ignoring the Iranian youth claiming to be recognized as they oppose a radical, oppressive Islamist state...while at the same time condemning the constitutionally-solid coup in Honduras...sort of an CYA...


30 posted on 11/07/2009 7:32:11 PM PST by Patriot2A (jihad)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: DNME
I believe this plot may begin to play out.....(not that I'm advocating it, for those others who are monitoring this site)


31 posted on 11/07/2009 7:32:45 PM PST by wolf24
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: Patriot2A
"Let's not give the libs a reason to pigeonhole us into a category of extremists because of one of our fine-members' visceral (albeit well intended) comments"

Dripping sanctimonious bullshit. Sober up.


32 posted on 11/07/2009 7:34:58 PM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: hosepipe

no sheep here...trust me, I want to take the streets as much as anyone...but for the sake of my children, let cool heads prevail...and the law be exhausted before anything else is done... only when tyranny and oppression set in and redress does not work, the time will come...in the meantime, pray, save, prepare, drill, train...


33 posted on 11/07/2009 7:35:41 PM PST by Patriot2A (jihad)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: Patriot2A
“May God help our Republic if this war ever goes kinetic. The repercussions would be unthinkable and the cost in lives and treasure would be disastrous.”

What would be unthinkable would be a future where you would be measuring your actions on a daily basis by the fear of what the gov’t will do to you.

By suppressing your voice due to the fear of gov’t persecution.

By the fear of future legislation that will further erase what little remains of our liberty.

And by the shame we will forever live with knowing that we did not carry forward the gift of freedom and liberty to our future generations as was done so by the past.

34 posted on 11/07/2009 7:35:48 PM PST by CapnJack
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Patriot2A
The longer we wait, the more Americans we lose to the commies..they give them government employment, welfare and healthcare.

Nothing will be repealed, nothing will win in the courts, noting will be cut....imagine the Dems/MSM accusing us R's of denying healthcare to over half the populace?

We must sack DC soon!

35 posted on 11/07/2009 7:35:56 PM PST by roses of sharon (Call the NFL and welcome their new Commissioner, Al Sharpton.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Patriot2A

I think the best way to cool a head is Ventilation.

I would love to help cool the heads of the Marxist Democrat Politicians that are destroying the Republic right in front of our eyes.

I also think the family members of those same individuals should be required to pay for the Ventilation Tool as the Chinese require when they Ventilate heads.

But of course, I could be wrong.


36 posted on 11/07/2009 7:36:36 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Conservatives THINK people are smart. Liberals KNOW people are stupid.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: CapnJack

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slx8CCjoL4E

Son’s of Liberty


37 posted on 11/07/2009 7:38:07 PM PST by roses of sharon (Call the NFL and welcome their new Commissioner, Al Sharpton.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: Patriot2A

Thank You for the thoughts,
I’ll just clean my guns for now.


38 posted on 11/07/2009 7:38:16 PM PST by Sir Beowolf ("We The People")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: I see my hands

Bro, common! No need for that! I constantly monitor HUffpo and Kos and read the spin on our postings here on FR! I am not kissing no one’s ass here-just trying to protect my conservative buddies!


39 posted on 11/07/2009 7:38:44 PM PST by Patriot2A (jihad)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: Patriot2A
The repercussions would be unthinkable and the cost in lives and treasure would be disastrous.

The Founding Fathers put their lives and treasures on the line for liberty. We have more creature comforts that keep many citizens complacent, and many have less incentive to fight than they did. The powers that be know that bread and circuses will occupy the time and minds of many would-be revolters.
However, it may take a majority to win an election, but it doesn't take a majority to rebel against tyranny.

But then again, maybe it is time to thin the herd...and renew the tree of liberty.


Look around at the opposition, the dirtbags who are running this country into the ground- Frank, Pelosi, Dodd, Schumer, Zero, Reid, and their flat-earth, no-growth environmental weenie PC followers. Yes, the time is approaching to cull the herd. You know it is too, FRiend.

We may not get to pick the time- it may be forced upon us by circumstances and events, and it may not be at the most opportune time, either. But I believe very strongly in my heart that there are too many Americans out there who believe in the principles and the Constitution on which this nation is based, to allow the country to disintegrate without a war- a fight to the death if that's what it takes.
40 posted on 11/07/2009 7:39:54 PM PST by Canedawg (FUBO)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: CapnJack

Capn...I am with you man...I am only saying that WE NEED NOT TO PROJECT OUR INTENTIONS OR THOUGHTS ONLINE!!!! Practice OPSEC/ COMSEC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


41 posted on 11/07/2009 7:40:47 PM PST by Patriot2A (jihad)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: tricky_k_1972

God bless Texas, and I will personally move my family there should they decide to do the S word.


42 posted on 11/07/2009 7:40:59 PM PST by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Patriot2A
I want to thank you for taking the time to post this. I'm literally 'on the edge' and so when reading this from someone who's been to hell & back, it restrains my instinct and reflexes (somewhat). The one contention I do have with your synopsis though is letting the system work. That did not succeed regarding McCain/Feingold's stifling Freedom of speech a.k.a. Campaign Finance Reform. I pray fervently that your instincts are correct as I am one American ready now to take the battle to 'them'.
43 posted on 11/07/2009 7:42:26 PM PST by Outlaw Woman (I would rather Die on my feet, than Live on my knees...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Patriot2A

That Steny Hoyer is one sleazebag! See him on C-SPAN?


44 posted on 11/07/2009 7:43:21 PM PST by browniexyz
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Canedawg

a fight that I will certainly join...and help win..


45 posted on 11/07/2009 7:43:35 PM PST by Patriot2A (jihad)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: Patriot2A

And Ms. Peloosi tell us that the American people WANT this bill passed.


46 posted on 11/07/2009 7:44:37 PM PST by Carley (THE MEDIA UNDERSTANDS CREDENTIALS BUT DOES NOT UNDERSTAND PRINCIPLES)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Patriot2A

These elitists actually think they are smarter than we are — we are just the great unwashed...


47 posted on 11/07/2009 7:44:40 PM PST by browniexyz
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Canedawg

the time will be once they start jailing/fining people for not having insurance-take it from someone whom just got audited by the IRS and owes $15K in back taxes-thanks to Turbo Tax!>!>!>! Should I call TIM G.??


48 posted on 11/07/2009 7:46:07 PM PST by Patriot2A (jihad)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: proudofthesouth

LOL I was wondering why the home shopping network.

Thanks for the laugh.


49 posted on 11/07/2009 7:47:38 PM PST by swheats (America! America! God mend thine every flaw, Confirm thy soul in self-control, Thy liberty in law!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Patriot2A
“Capn...I am with you man...I am only saying that WE NEED NOT TO PROJECT OUR INTENTIONS OR THOUGHTS ONLINE!!!! Practice OPSEC/ COMSEC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

Yes you are correct.

It is interesting to listen to the folks in my area these days. There is a definite change in opinion about this “gov’t”.

At my clubs Marine Corps Birthday match today, opinions were expressed quite passionately about the current events.

50 posted on 11/07/2009 7:51:18 PM PST by CapnJack
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-90 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson