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Pelosi Wins The Day [And, Tomorrow Is Another Day!]
Politico ^ | November 08th, 2009

Posted on 11/08/2009 10:06:59 AM PST by Steelfish

Pelosi Wins The Day

Jonathan Allen – Sun Nov 8

Nancy Pelosi clapped her hands as she left the House floor late Saturday night.

“That was easy,” the speaker said with a smile. It wasn’t. She had just delivered a promise decades of her predecessors failed to bring home, harnessing her uncommon focus, vote-counting acumen and consensus-building skills to bring tens of millions of Americans a giant leap closer to having health insurance coverage with a 220-215 roll call.

“Somebody asked me if this was a victory for [President] Barack Obama. It’s not. This victory belongs to her,” said House Rules Committee Chairwoman Louise Slaughter (D-N.Y.). “As far as I know she never sleeps nor eats.”

The bill’s fate, for now, rests across the Capitol in the hands of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.). But with Saturday’s vote, Pelosi proved yet again she is the able master of a Democratic Caucus that is enjoying its greatest political and legislative success since at least the beginning of the Clinton administration and arguably since its legislative heyday in the mid-1960s.

Democrats, including Pelosi, view the push for expanding the government’s role in the health care system as a new plank in the social justice platform constructed with Civil Rights, Voting Rights, open housing and Medicare laws enacted during Lyndon Johnson’s presidency, when Democrats held similar – and at times even larger — majorities in the House.

“You, Madam speaker — and the leadership — we thank you for the extraordinary leadership which you have given us in bringing us to the point where we are today,” Rep. John Dingell, the Michigan Democrat who's dean of the House, said on the floor Saturday night.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhohealthcare; hr3962; jonathanallen; pelosi

1 posted on 11/08/2009 10:07:00 AM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

This summer Nancy was in negotiations with the Chinese along with someone I know and he said that although he doesn’t like her that she did a good job.

The woman is not stupid. Unfortunately.


2 posted on 11/08/2009 10:10:22 AM PST by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: Steelfish
Before the Democrats and the Junk Media get rolling on their inevitable orgy of self congratulatory bs about their health care destruction bill, they need to remember this.

This is only the 1st touch down in a LOOOOnnng game.

It still has to pass the Senate, then the two bills have to be reconciled then pass both Houses again then pass the Courts.

Then the Democrats have to stay in control of Congress in 2010, and the White House in 2012, to avoid having the GOP repeal this.

This is a long way from done.

3 posted on 11/08/2009 10:11:58 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Note to the GOP: Do not count your votes until they are cast.)
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To: Steelfish
“As far as I know she never sleeps nor eats.”

(Mumbling things about wooden stakes....)

4 posted on 11/08/2009 10:12:09 AM PST by Gorzaloon (Roark, Architect.)
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To: Aria; Steelfish

She is unpopular though.

And if this bill is “hers”, it is even more likely that the voters are going to revolt.

She is A PUBLIC ENEMY.


5 posted on 11/08/2009 10:13:06 AM PST by Canedawg (FUBO)
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To: Aria
This summer Nancy was in negotiations with the Chinese along with someone I know and he said that although he doesn’t like her that she did a good job.

Did she allow a sneak look under her fake face and pre-botox lines?

6 posted on 11/08/2009 10:14:14 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Steelfish

This is a Pyrrhic victory. So the house passed a bill in haste, without really reading or understanding it, then claims credit, throws itself a virtual victory parade and a party.

Eveyone who voted for it might as well roll in dog poop — they smell like sh*t and nothing will fix it.


7 posted on 11/08/2009 10:19:41 AM PST by Tax Government (Mighty nuts from tiny Acorns grow.)
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To: MNJohnnie
Then the Democrats have to stay in control of Congress in 2010, and the White House in 2012, to avoid having the GOP repeal this.

In order for this to be repealed, we need a 2/3 majority, correct?

8 posted on 11/08/2009 10:19:42 AM PST by eekitsagreek (I want Amy Grant and Sarah Palin (wearing only a Blackhawks sweater) under my Christmas tree PLEASE!)
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To: Steelfish

Well Good!
Now she can let her face relax.

Oh wait.
No she can’t. ;-)


9 posted on 11/08/2009 10:21:46 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. May yur bandwidth exceed your girth)
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To: eekitsagreek
Not if we take the WH in 2012 and a win a significant GOP majority.

Do not get me wrong, we suffered a defeat yesterday. The sooner this monster bill dies the better, but it is not game over like the Peloise machine in the Junk media is crowing.

10 posted on 11/08/2009 10:22:34 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Note to the GOP: Do not count your votes until they are cast.)
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To: Aria

You seem to have a lot of friends in low places. ;)


11 posted on 11/08/2009 10:22:42 AM PST by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: Steelfish

Rep. John Dingell (D-MI) speaks next to U.S. Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (2nd R) during a news conference about the House vote on health care reform on Capitol Hill in Washington November 7, 2009. REUTERS/Yuri Gripas


12 posted on 11/08/2009 10:22:46 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. May yur bandwidth exceed your girth)
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To: Steelfish

That this was passed at night only reinforces the criminals, like rats and vermin, prefer to do their work in darkness.


13 posted on 11/08/2009 10:25:44 AM PST by Natural Law
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To: Steelfish

Why do we post this DNC propaganda from the Dem front group Politico ?
They won a close vote andf held in the middel of a Sat night !


14 posted on 11/08/2009 10:31:49 AM PST by ncalburt (San Fran Nan , Your Harvey Milk was gunned down by a fellow Dem-RAT)
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To: Perdogg

LOL


15 posted on 11/08/2009 10:34:23 AM PST by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: Tax Government
This is a Pyrrhic victory. So the house passed a bill in haste, without really reading or understanding it, then claims credit, throws itself a virtual victory parade and a party.

We should send her a Thank You card for handing Republicans control in 2010. Now if we could just make sure we get Conservatives in those seats!

16 posted on 11/08/2009 10:36:06 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Steelfish

Pelosi won nothing.

Pelosi is a criminal and will be held responsible to the American people.


17 posted on 11/08/2009 10:40:24 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Aria

Negotiating for what? The downfall of America.


18 posted on 11/08/2009 10:42:48 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: freekitty

I think it was a trade deal but not sure of the details.


19 posted on 11/08/2009 10:47:54 AM PST by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: Aria

What negotiations with China? I see wide open markets and no challenges to China any where. Was she there handing out coupons for restaurants in Chinatown?


20 posted on 11/08/2009 10:58:17 AM PST by 1776 Reborn
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To: Aria

It really doesn’t matter. She has proved she is not a loyal American.


21 posted on 11/08/2009 11:04:11 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Steelfish
Like the promises they make our Military?????????

TRI CARE FOR LIFE

This from a google search:

http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html

This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.)

http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf

Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options (Pelosi breaks word to Rep Buyer no amendments)

REPUBLICAN PRESS RELEASE ^ | November 6, 2009 | Rep Buyer abd Rep McKeon

Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options

Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries

Washington, D.C. — Today, House Committee on Veterans’ Affairs Ranking Member Steve Buyer and House Armed Services Committee Ranking Member Howard P. “Buck” McKeon offered three amendments to the Pelosi healthcare bill that would protect America’s Veterans and military TRICARE beneficiaries. The healthcare legislation, which is expected to be voted on in the full House in the coming days limits veteran’s and service member’s health care choices and places veterans and military health care unnecessarily at risk by not clearly excluding military and veterans health care from the requirements of the bill.

“In addition to being fundamentally opposed to a sweeping government takeover of health care, I also strongly object to the bill that was unveiled today because it would limit veterans’ ability to choose a health care provider,” said Rep. Buyer. “The liberty and freedom upon which our nation is founded was paid for through the sacrifices of veterans, and I find it outrageous that the government veterans defended would presume to dictate where and how they obtain health care. This is not the type of government veterans have fought and died for.”

“America must remain vigilant in our efforts to provide the necessary support to our Veterans, military retirees, and current military personnel,” said Rep. McKeon. “The Democrat healthcare bill that will be voted on in the coming days creates unnecessary uncertainty for our Veterans and military families that their healthcare options will be unfairly limited. Our amendments make certain—in the strongest terms possible—that our nation’s heroes will continue to have options, while protecting their rights to maintain their current high-quality options if they so choose.”

Reps. Buyer and McKeon offered the following three amendments to ensure that our veterans, servicemembers, and their families are not hurt by the bill:

· Buyer/McKeon Amendment #001: Would add a new subsection to provide explicitly that veterans enrolled in the VA health care and TRICARE beneficiaries may choose additional health insurance through the “Health Insurance Exchange”, along with care provided by VA or DOD.

The bill reads: “(a) ACCESS TO COVERAGE. – In accordance with this section, all individuals are eligible to obtain coverage through enrollment in an Exchange-participating health benefits plan offered through the Health Insurance Exchange unless such individuals are enrolled in another qualified health benefits plan or certain other acceptable coverage.” [page 156, line 11-16].

Under H.R. 3962, VA health care and TRICARE would be deemed "qualified" coverage. The problem with the language is that it is ambiguous and can be interpreted to disqualify individuals enrolled in VA health care or TRICARE from participating in the exchange.

This amendment was accepted at the Energy and Commerce Committee markup, but the Democratic Leadership failed to include it in H.R. 3962.

· Buyer/McKeon Amendment #002: Would ensure that the authority of the Secretary of VA and Secretary of DOD could never be challenged or obstructed by any provision in the bill or by a secretary or commissioner from another part of government.

As currently written, H.R. 3962 would provide that the Secretary of Defense and the Secretary of VA retain sole authority over their respective health care systems only with respect to Subtitle A, the Health Insurance Exchange. This was the original Buyer Amendment adopted in Energy and Commerce Committee. However, it was limited to “Subtitle A” because of germaneness requirements. The intent was that as the Committee bills were merged, the language would be revised to encompass the entire bill.

The section-by-section analysis on the Energy and Commerce Committee Website states that Section 311 “makes clear that nothing in this act interferes with the Department of Veterans Affairs or Department of Defense’s existing authorities.”

In fact, this description is incorrect and our amendment would provide that the bill conform to the website’s assertion.

· Buyer/McKeon Amendment #003: Would amend section 342 of the bill to allow individuals enrolled in VA health care and TRICARE to be eligible for affordable tax credits. Currently, H.R. 3962 defines an “affordable credit eligible individual” as one who is not enrolled in acceptable coverage – which would exclude individuals enrolled in VA health care or TRICARE.

22 posted on 11/08/2009 11:09:28 AM PST by GailA (Quilts for the Alpha Omega House for Veterans....I'm a quilt-aholic!!!)
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Maximum Leader Pelosi should be the poster girl for a nationalized house campaign in 2010.


23 posted on 11/08/2009 11:11:52 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Steelfish

She and Hussein and of course Hairy Reed are the most worthless excuses for leaders in America. Worthless.


24 posted on 11/08/2009 11:21:18 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Tax Government; All

We are so proud we ignored the majority of the American people and passed an unconstitutional, socialist bill!

Any of you jackballs who say there is no difference between the two parties need to take a good look at the vote yesterday.

Then read Ann Coulter's "Treason".

Democrat party leaders are communist sympathizers at best, and probably worse.


25 posted on 11/08/2009 11:24:45 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Steelfish

Seriously, Jonathan Allen and the rest of the Politico is nothing but a DNC propaganda arm.


26 posted on 11/08/2009 11:28:54 AM PST by KC_Conspirator (u)
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To: Steelfish
pelosi

Cardinal Pelosi, Interpreter of Vatican Doctrine

27 posted on 11/08/2009 9:05:26 PM PST by Docktor Doom
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