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Graham: House Bill "D.O.A." in the Senate
cbsnews.com ^ | Nov. 8, 2009 | Michelle Levi

Posted on 11/08/2009 10:26:06 AM PST by Free ThinkerNY

(CBS) Senator Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said the health care bill passed last night by the House of Representatives is "dead on arrival to the Senate."

Graham argued that the House bill was "written for liberals, by liberals.

"Just look at how it passed; it passed 220 to 215. It passed by two votes. You had [39] Democrats vote against the bill," Graham told "Face the Nation" host Bob Schieffer Sunday.

He also admitted that if it were to come down to it, he would join his independent colleague Senator Joe Lieberman, I-Conn., in filibustering a bill including the so-called public option should it come to the Senate floor.

"The House bill is a non-starter in the Senate," he added. "I just think the construct out of the House and what exists in the Senate is not going to pass, and I hope and pray it doesn't because it would be a disaster for the economy and health care," Graham concluded.

Graham believed a public option would "destroy" private health care, saying that insurance companies could not compete against the lower premiums of a government-backed plan. "It will be a death blow to private choice," he said.

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1 posted on 11/08/2009 10:26:06 AM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Oh yeah right, he’s one to be believed..

He’ll be the first one Obama talks to.


2 posted on 11/08/2009 10:28:41 AM PST by Freddd (CNN is not credible.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Any Blue Dogs who voted for it must be thinking that they walked the plank for nothing.


3 posted on 11/08/2009 10:29:02 AM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: Free ThinkerNY
graham will be the first to seek a compromise with the dems to pass Health care legislation and when the votes are counted he will be in the yea column
4 posted on 11/08/2009 10:29:12 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Remember how we felt when the Democrats would declare one of Reagan’s proposed budgets DOA? This is will be having the same effect on the Democrats today.

Except they aren’t nearly as good at controlling their emotions.


5 posted on 11/08/2009 10:29:16 AM PST by Steely Tom (Without the second, the rest are just politicians' BS.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Blind pig....acorn...

This still won’t make up for his Cap & Tax support.


6 posted on 11/08/2009 10:29:22 AM PST by SeeRushToldU_So ( Go Braves! Braves are gone.)
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To: Freddd

I just think the construct out of the House and what exists in the Senate is not going to pass,’

So they will ‘change’ some wording, and then it will pass.


7 posted on 11/08/2009 10:29:22 AM PST by Freddd (CNN is not credible.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"Graham: House Bill "D.O.A." in the Senate"

Prove it you toothless twit.

8 posted on 11/08/2009 10:29:24 AM PST by Enterprise (When they come for your guns and ammo, give them the ammo first.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

How can anyone trust this guy?

He talks like this right up to the last minute and then votes with the dimrats because he got them to “compromise”.


9 posted on 11/08/2009 10:29:39 AM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Look at the public option as passing out food stamps...I'm paying for those and my food, too.

The difference is: Food is a necessity, Health Insurance is not.

10 posted on 11/08/2009 10:29:43 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Free ThinkerNY

D.O.A.?

I want to see the death certificate.


11 posted on 11/08/2009 10:30:12 AM PST by alloysteel (....the Kennedys can be regarded as dysfunctional. Even in death.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Where have we heard this before . It's simple , we don't have the votes . The WH controls the stimulus money . It is a Parliament of Whores . Follow the money .
12 posted on 11/08/2009 10:30:33 AM PST by fantom (,)
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To: Paleo Conservative

I suspect that Pelosi counted the votes and let a lot of the Blue Dogs vote no. They need to be thrown out anyway, because if push came to shove, they would have caved.


13 posted on 11/08/2009 10:30:49 AM PST by Enterprise (When they come for your guns and ammo, give them the ammo first.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Graham argued that the House bill was "written for liberals, by liberals.

Graham would know...

14 posted on 11/08/2009 10:31:33 AM PST by Allegra (It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Oh Lindsey you retarded mole.


15 posted on 11/08/2009 10:35:17 AM PST by VanDeKoik (Iran doesnt have a 2nd admendment. Ya see how that turned out?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Sounds like a guy angling for a deal...


16 posted on 11/08/2009 10:35:40 AM PST by jessduntno (TOTUS fails and POtuS becomes a phuttering stuck.)
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To: fantom

Those of you who think that this will die in Senate don’t understand what was sacrificed night. The Dems have insured that America will be socialist. It was a huge leftist victory.

There is no promise or law they won’t break to finish the deal.

If they have to use the “nuclear option”, they will. There is nothing they won’t sacrifice to finish this.


17 posted on 11/08/2009 10:36:04 AM PST by roses of sharon (Call the NFL and welcome their new Commissioner, Al Sharpton.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

It’s like saying the government will investigate the shootings.

Not this time pal. The American people will.


18 posted on 11/08/2009 10:36:30 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Enterprise

We have many rich targets for next year, not just the Blue Dogs. There are many RATS who will be in the fight of their political lives with 10% + unemployment.

Did anyone bother to pay attention to the recorded vote on the GOP motion to recommit? The GOP strategy was excellent. They forced a recorded vote to restore Medicare cuts by demanding tort reform. The RATS voted it down, thereby choosing trial lawyers over seniors. Anybody imagine how good those TV ads will be?


19 posted on 11/08/2009 10:38:33 AM PST by mwl8787
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Graham better be right...

cuz the word on the net is: "shove it down our throats in '09 and we'll ram it up you @ss in '10"

anyone who is up for election next year who voted for this travesty is going to lose big time

and even the 39 Rats who voted against it are suspect because that vote could have been a calculated move to further their congressional careers

over for the Rats... guarantee it...

folks on the net who Obambi can't spy on are peeved big time

20 posted on 11/08/2009 10:38:42 AM PST by xtinct (The will of God will never take you where the Grace of God will not protect you..Be Strong Patriots!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
The only "choices" that the left doesn't oppose are the "right" to murder babies and the "right" to foist one's perversion and depravity upon society. Other than those, they want the government to control everything. Partly because that's how "wealth redistribution" is accomplished. They are petty vindictive people, which is the worst possible thing to be especially when combined with lazy and stupid-that leaves them no other choice but to survive by being parasites off the productive. Being stupid and lazy makes it necessary, being petty and vindictive makes them gleeful to suck the blood of others.
21 posted on 11/08/2009 10:39:09 AM PST by mrsmel
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Knuckle-headed-conservatism-on-parade.

Throw the guy under the bus that wants to fight on your behelf because you didn’t like his position on a separate issue yesterday.

Anyone want to know why we lose? Here is a perfect example.

The usual “burn it down and groove on the rubble” loud mouths will of course chime in but their tired rhetoric but clear thinking conservatives know the most effective course of action today would be to support Graham on this issue then fight him tooth and nail over C&T tomorrow.

But noooo, let’s throw the baby out with the bathwater EACH AND EVERY TIME, that way eventually we’ll have no baby, no bath and no water.

But then they can groove on that and complain how they are mistreated and that nobody listens to them.


22 posted on 11/08/2009 10:40:09 AM PST by Bob J ("For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, one strikes at it's root.")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Absolutely. Grahmasty is the new McCain. He’s a media hog first and RAT-Party aider second.


23 posted on 11/08/2009 10:40:13 AM PST by rod1
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Graham ? we don’t believe a stinking word you say.


24 posted on 11/08/2009 10:41:33 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

may not have 60 but may be close to 50.


25 posted on 11/08/2009 10:42:16 AM PST by stylin19a
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To: old curmudgeon
He talks like this right up to the last minute and then he votes with the dimrats because he got them to “compromise”.

As the RINO calls it: "principled" compromise. He should know, as Grahamnasty has never had a problem compromising his own.

26 posted on 11/08/2009 10:43:15 AM PST by nfldgirl
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Any chance this turd will get a primary?


27 posted on 11/08/2009 10:43:17 AM PST by DRey
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I don’t care what version the Senate RINOs want to support. If we give the socialists something, anything, even a comparatively benign bill, reconciliation will allow them to turn that into the biggest power grab since Hitler’s German coalition government of 1933. PelosiCare must die (before it kills the United States).


28 posted on 11/08/2009 10:43:46 AM PST by TurtleUp ([...Insert today's quote from Community-Organizer-in-Chief...] - Obama, YOU LIE!)
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To: Paleo Conservative
I guess they will get nightmares of : and now folks, the election results on NOV 3 2010 “ REPUBLICANS TAKE MAJOR SWEEPS OF BOTH HOUSES and STATES!!
29 posted on 11/08/2009 10:43:51 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

OK NOW I’m worried. If Graham comes out against it, you can be sure he and the other wishy washy RINOS will end up voting for it. I trust him as far as I can throw him (and I throw like a girl with a bad back)


30 posted on 11/08/2009 10:44:25 AM PST by Mom MD (Jesus is the Light of the world!)
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To: Enterprise

“Prove it you toothless twit.”

Prove it you eunuch twit. Had to correct that for you.


31 posted on 11/08/2009 10:45:01 AM PST by A Strict Constructionist (How long before we are forced to refresh the Tree of Liberty?)
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To: paul51

Knee Pads Lindsey


32 posted on 11/08/2009 10:45:07 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: mwl8787

In the last couple of months, the Democrats have provided an astonishing amount of ammunition to use against them in the next election. However, they still intend to win, and they intend to pull out all stops and win dirty. To me that means more massive ACORN fraud and AMNESTY.


33 posted on 11/08/2009 10:45:34 AM PST by Enterprise (When they come for your guns and ammo, give them the ammo first.)
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To: Enterprise

“I suspect that Pelosi counted the votes and let a lot of the Blue Dogs vote no”

I’m pretty sure that’s what happened to a couple in GA. We speculated that this would be the plan a couple of months ago.


34 posted on 11/08/2009 10:45:43 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: roses of sharon
If they have to use the “nuclear option”, they will. There is nothing they won’t sacrifice to finish this.

Yup, most of us here knew how this was going to play out months ago.

The commies have declared total war against the American people, The Constitution, and LIBERTY itself.
35 posted on 11/08/2009 10:45:51 AM PST by Electric Graffiti (Yonder stands your orphan with his gun)
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To: Bob J

AMEN AND AMEN!!!!


36 posted on 11/08/2009 10:45:57 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma (Al Franken--the face of the third-party voters)
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To: A Strict Constructionist

Too funny! Thanks for the correction! :)


37 posted on 11/08/2009 10:46:18 AM PST by Enterprise (When they come for your guns and ammo, give them the ammo first.)
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To: Electric Graffiti

There’s no stopping this. And you’ll be amazed how easily it will pass the Senate. A year from now, the attitude will be “We got socialized medicine, and the world didn’t end! Those demotards were right.” 2010 will not be a bloodbath, people forget. And the ugly stuff doesn’t hit until 2013, remember. That is deliberately planned.

The GOP will be lucky to pick up twenty seats in the House, maybe even ten. The republic has been dying for decades; the ascension of Teleprompter Jesus is just the arrival of the minister for the funeral. Barry was right, the Nation Below Canada is no more exceptional than Greece or Turkey or Zimbabwe. The voters have seen to that.

It is time to sack DC.


38 posted on 11/08/2009 10:47:26 AM PST by roses of sharon (Call the NFL and welcome their new Commissioner, Al Sharpton.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

He will say anything, don’t fall for it!!


39 posted on 11/08/2009 10:47:29 AM PST by ezcritter
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To: alloysteel
D.O.A.?
I want to see the death certificate.


While we're at it, I'd like to see a birth certificate, too.

;-)
40 posted on 11/08/2009 10:47:35 AM PST by Canedawg (FUBO)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

BS! The Senate Finance Committee will approve this like they did Crap and Tax ... both will be rubber stamped for approval in the Senate.


41 posted on 11/08/2009 10:48:34 AM PST by fujimoh
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To: Canedawg

Good one. LOL!


42 posted on 11/08/2009 10:48:56 AM PST by eyedigress
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To: Enterprise

The House RATS are totally disconnected from the reality of their constituents’ lives, especially with mounting unemployment.

From NRO:

Mutiny in Scrutiny? [Jeffrey H. Anderson]

It was always clear that the real health-care battle would be in the Senate. But what would have been shocking eight months ago is to hear that it would take until November for the Democrats to pass a bill even in the House. It would have been even more shocking to have heard that, even after a full-court-press by the White House, the bill would pass by only five votes — meaning that if just three of the 435 members had changed their minds, it would have changed the bill’s fate. And it would have been shocking to have heard that 39 Democrats would jump ship.

The House bill has passed — barely and belatedly — and it is now dead. Nothing like it will ever pass the Senate. The question now is whether anything will, now that the voters have spoken in New Jersey and Virginia — and now that the exceedingly narrow margin in the House will likely invite even greater scrutiny of that which is being proposed.

Greater scrutiny will not help the Democrats’ efforts. In truth, their hopes for passage largely hinge on successfully hiding two plain facts from the voters: One, the House Republicans and the Congressional Budget Office have now shown that a bill costing $61 billion can lower Americans’ insurance premiums, while bills costing $1.7 trillion cannot (and instead would raise them substantially). Two, the Democrats’ plans would be paid for only if they follow through on plans to siphon hundreds of billions of dollars out of already-barely-solvent Medicare, and to do so just in time for the baby boomers’ retirement.

Given the magnitude of the challenge of continuing to hide these plain facts from an increasingly attentive citizenry, the Democratic health-care train has a very bumpy ride ahead — as it rolls into the chamber that the American Founders thought from the beginning would ultimately decide our fate: the Senate.

— Jeffrey H. Anderson is a senior fellow in health-care studies at the Pacific Research Institute and was the senior speechwriter for Secretary Mike Leavitt at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services during Pres. George W. Bush’s second term.


43 posted on 11/08/2009 10:49:09 AM PST by mwl8787
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To: rod1
. He’s a media hog HORE first and RAT-Party aider second.

There now, fixed.
44 posted on 11/08/2009 10:49:18 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Lindsay, you’ll just help the Commies make the house bill worse and then sign it. FOAD, you low-life, scumbag, vichy, chap-lipped, flat-kneed, lisping pecker puffer.


45 posted on 11/08/2009 10:49:37 AM PST by Electric Graffiti (Yonder stands your orphan with his gun)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

lindsey is just scared we will come to visit the senate next.......


46 posted on 11/08/2009 10:49:51 AM PST by tioga
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To: freeangel

The vote was made to look “close.” I don’t think there was a blue dog in the bunch who couldn’t have been pressured to vote for the bill. They all stink.


47 posted on 11/08/2009 10:49:53 AM PST by Enterprise (When they come for your guns and ammo, give them the ammo first.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I don’t believe/trust anything about Graham. That rat acting as a RINO will say anything to get attention. To think SC votes for the light-in-the-loafer idiot.


48 posted on 11/08/2009 10:51:04 AM PST by nclaurel
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Thanks, now there are two of us... ;-].


49 posted on 11/08/2009 10:52:50 AM PST by Bob J ("For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, one strikes at it's root.")
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To: Freddd
He’ll be the first one Obama talks to.

You are right. Graham is lying through his teeth.

The liberal media did not even report that Pelosi was going to put this bill up for a vote. And the small number of media outlets that did report it , said that “ there might be a bill voted on but that there was so many disagreements that it was unlikely to come to a vote or to pass.”

Lindsay , the democrats and the media want us to relax and not pay attention . And we the public will relax as long as they keep telling us “there is no chance it will pass but blah blah blah” , Then they'll pass it on a weekend on Saturday night or on a holiday.

They lied so we all would relax and watch football this weekend instead of watching what the democrats are doing. What the democrats were doing was passing a bill that would put us on the path to socialism. Socialism will end up ruining our economy, taking away our liberty, prosperity, and private property.

50 posted on 11/08/2009 10:53:03 AM PST by rurgan (Sarah Palin:"Big government is the problem, not the solution" Me:socialism doesn't work)
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