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Fort Hood Shooting: Barack Obama Would Have To Approve Death Penalty
Telegraph(UK) ^ | November 08th, 2009

Posted on 11/08/2009 4:31:48 PM PST by Steelfish

Fort Hood Shooting: Barack Obama Would Have To Approve Death Penalty

US President Barack Obama would have to personally approve the death sentence if Major Nidal Malik Hasan is convicted and sentenced to execution for the Fort Hood massacre.

Nick Allen in Fort Hood 08 Nov 2009

As a serving officer Hasan, 39, is likely to be tried in a military court in a system ultimately headed by Mr Obama in his role as commander-in-chief. No member of the US military has been put to death since the 1961 hanging of Army Private John Bennett for rape.

Mr Obama has followed a nuanced line on the death penalty in the past, saying it is not an effective deterrent but should be an option in extreme cases. In his memoirs he said capital punishment "does little to deter crime" but he supports it in cases "so heinous, so beyond the pale, that the community is justified in expressing the full measure of its outrage by meting out the ultimate punishment".

Mr Obama and his wife Michelle are due to attend a memorial service in Fort Hood on Tuesday. The president will be constrained in what he can say. Any comment which prejudges guilt or sentence could later be cited by defence lawyers as "unlawful command influence". That would extend an already lengthy military appeals process.

Hasan, who is still in hospital after being shot four times, is expected to be charged with 13 counts of murder. Under the military legal system the case would be heard by a panel of 12 officers, all of whom have to outrank Hasan. Navy lawyer Philip Cave, a military crimes defence attorney, estimated that any future appeals process could take up to 15 years.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bho44; forthood; fthood; hasan; islam; nidalmalikhasan
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1 posted on 11/08/2009 4:31:49 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

Or, he could die.

In agonizing pain, I hope. But either way, “die” is the preferred outcome.


2 posted on 11/08/2009 4:33:57 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Steelfish
"after being shot four times"

Why don't we ever get to hear the details of the shot placements? We've heard about the hero's wounds.

3 posted on 11/08/2009 4:34:38 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Steelfish

I think life imprisonment is an appropriate punishment. HE needs life in a small dirty cell to think about what he did.


4 posted on 11/08/2009 4:35:28 PM PST by RebelYell1990
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To: Steelfish

he doesn’t even take the threats to this country seriously, why would he even concern himself about this.


5 posted on 11/08/2009 4:35:52 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman, end of. -end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Steelfish

And the chances of that happening?

Slim to none, and going downhill from there.

Of course, given how long it takes for any court decision to grind its way through the appeals process, it’s likely that the decision will be made by President Palin.

Not only will she approve it, she’ll probably volunteer for the firing squad.


6 posted on 11/08/2009 4:36:05 PM PST by Ronin (Better an avowed enemy in front of me than a potential traitor beside me. NO RINOS!)
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To: Paladin2

>> Why don’t we ever get to hear the details of the shot placements?

He was shot four times in the ass.

(Anywhere you shoot a Muslim, you shoot him in the ass.)


7 posted on 11/08/2009 4:36:16 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: Steelfish

This just sucks he should be tried and FRIED!


8 posted on 11/08/2009 4:37:03 PM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: Steelfish
“US President Barack Obama would have to personally approve the death sentence if Major Nidal Malik Hasan is convicted and sentenced to execution for the Fort Hood massacre.”

That won't happen.

The spineless pacifist would NEVER put one of his own, a Muslim, to death. Obama identifies with this terrorist. He'll want to “rehabilitate” him and have us pay for the ultimate in his health care. If per chance he recovers, then he'll be released to live in our neighborhood.

9 posted on 11/08/2009 4:37:08 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Steelfish

Now, can you imagine Obama approving a death sentence for a Muslim, which would have HIS name on it ???

Know any other good jokes???


10 posted on 11/08/2009 4:37:19 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: Steelfish
That will never happen! He would never sentence a fellow muslim to death! Now we have muslims attacking our military on our own soil and our president defending them!
11 posted on 11/08/2009 4:37:24 PM PST by Rickcbw
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To: RebelYell1990

>> HE needs life in a small dirty cell to think about what he did.

OK. But enough about Obama. What do you think we should do to the terrorist?


12 posted on 11/08/2009 4:37:33 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: Nervous Tick

Thanks, I guess I hadn’t thought it through.


13 posted on 11/08/2009 4:37:40 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Ronin

You made my day by writing that.


14 posted on 11/08/2009 4:37:43 PM PST by bergmeid (obama. With a small o.)
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To: Steelfish

Fat chance.


15 posted on 11/08/2009 4:37:50 PM PST by glorgau
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To: manc

Heck, Obama agrees with Major Nidal Malik Hasan.


16 posted on 11/08/2009 4:38:06 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Cindy; JustPiper; Logic n' Reason; Texas Fossil

*ping*


17 posted on 11/08/2009 4:38:58 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: Rickcbw

I dunno. obama could help make this guy a martyr, you know.


18 posted on 11/08/2009 4:39:22 PM PST by bergmeid (obama. With a small o.)
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To: Steelfish

Why would Obama stop the guy from getting his 72 virgins? I mean one Muslim to another. Give the guy his reward.


19 posted on 11/08/2009 4:40:12 PM PST by kempo
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To: Steelfish
Hasan, who is still in hospital after being shot four times, is expected to be charged with 13 counts of murder.

The dead number 14. He killed a pregnant soldier.

20 posted on 11/08/2009 4:40:36 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: FromLori

Can anyone please decipher Obama on this:

“does little to deter crime” but he supports it in cases “so heinous, so beyond the pale, that the community is justified in expressing the full measure of its outrage by meting out the ultimate punishment”.


21 posted on 11/08/2009 4:40:51 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: nmh

Don’t forget, we’d also have to apologize to Hasan for whatever perceived evils the infidels placed on him.


22 posted on 11/08/2009 4:41:47 PM PST by Wisconsinlady
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To: nmh

Don’t forget, we’d also have to apologize to Hasan for whatever perceived evils the infidels placed on him.


23 posted on 11/08/2009 4:41:54 PM PST by Wisconsinlady
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To: nmh

Don’t forget, we’d also have to apologize to Hasan for whatever perceived evils the infidels placed on him.


24 posted on 11/08/2009 4:42:02 PM PST by Wisconsinlady
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To: Steelfish
What a shame. I hear he committed suicide by cutting his own throat and jumping off the second balcony of his prison block. Just like Irv Rubin did.

Next month.

25 posted on 11/08/2009 4:42:11 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Steelfish

With the outcome to be a Death Penalty order, from The Messiah, you can bet that this guy NEVER will make it to the gallows....he’s probably gonna get the Jim McDougal treatment, to avoid The Messiah having to piss off his radical voterbase.


26 posted on 11/08/2009 4:42:58 PM PST by traditional1 ("don't gots to worry 'bout no mo'gage. Don't gots to buy no gas...Obama, he gonna take care o' me")
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To: Steelfish

” The president will be constrained in what he can say. Any comment which prejudges guilt or sentence could later be cited by defence lawyers as “unlawful command influence”.

Barry announced in his Saturday radio address that :
“This past Thursday, on a clear Texas afternoon, an Army psychiatrist walked into the Soldier Readiness Processing Center,
and began shooting his fellow soldiers.”

If only the Commander in Chief had a clue.
Or maybe he did....


27 posted on 11/08/2009 4:43:07 PM PST by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Steelfish

I hope the Muslim dies and rots in hell. And the same for the killer at Fort Hood, if you get my drift....


28 posted on 11/08/2009 4:43:42 PM PST by Wisconsinlady
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To: Steelfish

Obamao will give him a medal.


29 posted on 11/08/2009 4:44:10 PM PST by Nahanni
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To: Steelfish

Because a civilian officer was shot, Texas also has jurisdiction. Gov Perry has already said that this scumbag needs to be executed “under the “sovereign law of the State of Texas.”

He’ll fry.


30 posted on 11/08/2009 4:45:05 PM PST by piytar (Screw you NRC, Steele, Graham, and the rest of the lib-loser GOP. WE'RE TAKING OUR PARTY BACK!)
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To: Steelfish
Can anyone please decipher Obama on this:

“does little to deter crime” but he supports it in cases “so heinous, so beyond the pale, that the community is justified in expressing the full measure of its outrage by meting out the ultimate punishment”.

Deterrence is bad.

Revenge is good.

31 posted on 11/08/2009 4:45:10 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 291 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Steelfish; Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; ...

The list, ping


32 posted on 11/08/2009 4:45:37 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Steelfish

Obama authorizing the death penalty for a Muslim? It will NEVER happen. He’ll say something like, “Vengeance is mine saith the LORD,” or not sending a message of hate to the Islamic world, but he’ll never do it.


33 posted on 11/08/2009 4:46:06 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Will never happen on obozo’s watch.


34 posted on 11/08/2009 4:48:42 PM PST by pack29172 (You can learn what your enemy fears most by observing the means he uses to frighten you.)
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To: Steelfish

Win Win. If B.Hussein signs off on it he is an Apostate, if he does not he is a traitor. Oh what tangled webs we weave.


35 posted on 11/08/2009 4:49:26 PM PST by omega4179
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To: Steelfish

BS - by the time this swine is ready, Sarah will be POTUS and the swine will fry.


36 posted on 11/08/2009 4:49:34 PM PST by narses ("These are the days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed except his own.")
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To: Steelfish

Well, now Barry....doesn’t THIS just keep on getting more and more delicious?


37 posted on 11/08/2009 4:50:43 PM PST by NordP (COMMON SENSE CONSERVATIVES - Love of Country, Less Govt, Stop Spending, No Govt Run Healthcare!!!)
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To: Steelfish

Texas is one state where I almost wish they’d let the civilian system do him. Ah, Texas...where when Ron White says they’re putting in an express lane to the death penalty, he’s only half kidding.


38 posted on 11/08/2009 4:51:09 PM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: bergmeid

Good point. Very good point!


39 posted on 11/08/2009 4:51:20 PM PST by Rickcbw
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To: Ronin

And THAT’s just ONE of the reasons why we love her SO much!


40 posted on 11/08/2009 4:51:52 PM PST by NordP (COMMON SENSE CONSERVATIVES - Love of Country, Less Govt, Stop Spending, No Govt Run Healthcare!!!)
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To: Steelfish

Zero will state that this is a teachable moment in how to be tolerant of the beliefs of others. He is not going to do anything to support Americans and their beliefs. I would also expect zero to pardon this guy since they are brothers in islam.


41 posted on 11/08/2009 4:53:20 PM PST by fujimoh
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To: Steelfish

“Barack Obama Would Have To Approve Death Penalty”

FFC


42 posted on 11/08/2009 4:53:41 PM PST by A Strict Constructionist (How long before we are forced to refresh the Tree of Liberty?)
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To: Nachum; Steelfish

He will never approve the death penalty. No way, Jose, Obama will spare his life and see to it that the worse this guy could get is life in prison, under supervised and good treatment, that’s all.  Obama doesn’t believe in the death penalty when it comes to terrorists. He doesn’t even believe in specialized jails like Gitmo, either.


43 posted on 11/08/2009 4:53:58 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: RichInOC

See my number #30.


44 posted on 11/08/2009 4:54:58 PM PST by piytar (Screw you NRC, Steele, Graham, and the rest of the lib-loser GOP. WE'RE TAKING OUR PARTY BACK!)
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To: nmh

Yes, didn’t William Ayers write in Obama’s book that he would stand by the Muslims .....


45 posted on 11/08/2009 4:55:08 PM PST by Froggie
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To: RichInOC

No, I bet for this guy, they’d happily put wheelchair access into the death house if they needed to.


46 posted on 11/08/2009 4:56:55 PM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: nmh

hand him over to TX where they will deal with him for sure


47 posted on 11/08/2009 4:56:59 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman, end of. -end racism end affirmative action)
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To: bergmeid

Just execute him. If the muzzies want to make a martyr of him, so what? We can’t let them dictate how we operate our justice system. Not yet, anyway....


48 posted on 11/08/2009 4:57:15 PM PST by clintonh8r (My country. Not my government.)
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To: RichInOC

” you come to Texas and kill somebody, we will kill you back.” ... Ron White


49 posted on 11/08/2009 4:59:00 PM PST by redstateconfidential (`)
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To: Steelfish
Navy lawyer Philip Cave, a military crimes defence attorney, estimated that any future appeals process could take up to 15 years.

Heck, I could kill him quicker than that with a pen knife.

50 posted on 11/08/2009 5:00:46 PM PST by SamuraiScot
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