Posted on 11/08/2009 6:30:31 PM PST by antidemoncrat
The U.S. is considering adapting a unilateral Palestinian declaration of independence in the West Bank and Jerusalem regardless of negotiations with the Jewish state, according to Israeli sources speaking to Israel's Haaretz newspaper.
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The Chicago way.
Who would have imagined 5 years ago that the US would engage in secret talks to carve up the territory of an ally and give land to a nation of terrorists, just because we like them more than we like the Jews.
Unbelievable.
And he promises 7 years of peace....
Doubt it, especially when his Chief of Staff is an IDF veteran and Biden and Clinton are admitted ardent zionists
Zero is a no nothing jerk with a Harvard law degree . . .
Just proves often the dumbest person in the room has the most expensive degree.
Rahm’s father belongs to the same group that was led by Begin.
Begin gave up land for peace.
So, How do american Jooooos like the guy they voted for now?
Still smarter than everybody? Still Smug?
And your next plan is?
Presi Nancy ?
How did the elect become complacent?
We have been looking for Osama Bin Laden for years. Has anybody ever put a picture of Obama next to Osama and removed by photo shop Osama’s Beard? You think we know Obama’s missing background?
Why did he bow to the Saudi’s?
Israel shoud be worried about Obama!
Exactly why is everything James Bond like with Obama?
Apparently a good many American Jews aren’t necessarily supportive of Israel, their liberalism trumps it. I understand that even Stalin had Jews in his government, who woulda thunk it?
Hillary Clinton an ardent Zionist? Did the cow jump over the moon and I missed it? She’s anything but. See: http://bit.ly/18jRqe The only thing Hillary Clinton is ardent about is Hillary Clinton, and she’ll change her position as needed. She had a great teacher for that.
At any rate, neither Biden or Clinton have much sway in the inner working of the WH. Biden is the court jester and Hillary is the dangerous foe being kept at arm’s length from the WH. As for Rahm, I haven’t seen a whole lot of pro-Israel policy come from this WH, so he may be an IDF vet but then again John Kerry is a U.S. vet. and you don’t see a whole lot of U.S. cheerleading from him because of that fact.
I thought Obama wasn’t into ‘meddling’ in other countries affairs?
(eye roll)
It’s time for Israel to take the gloves off with the Kenyan clown.
You are one silly person. Biden is too stupid to believe in anything and are Hitlerly loving the Joooz? You can't be serious.
The thug in our White House may have just bitten off more than he can chew. Israel holds all of our major research and development centers. Bibi Netanyahu just made a pact with India, and I’m sure wouldn’t mind at all renting out the brains of their youth to India instead, and provide them with medical, agricultural, weaponary and technological innovations and make a new super power.
I’m sure India would love Israeli innovations to make their desert bloom as well. Plus India doesn’t seem to be scared of calling a terrorist act a terrorist act, either, and backed Pakistan into a corner.
Paybacks would be hell for the commie in our White House if they both told him to go fly a kite!
From the far southwest tip of India, it’s not but a skip over the water for fighter jets and bombers to get at Iran, either.
The irony here is that while the ‘bama’s Brown Shirts in Congress try to steamroll a fascist monolith over the Constitution and the American people, the ‘bama’s foreign policy incompetence is simultaneously feverishly pushing the world to global, and likely nuclear, war. Global fascism will probably be derailed by a global holocaust while fools like Pelosi grin and tell us they’re paving the streets with gold.
And then beyond that, once done, “Barracks” US will back the palestainians at any price as he has to protect his brothers.
Then, there us the muslim driven (perverted) UN leaning on them.
And Barry o wants a stronger UN!
Things are looking nasty!
Don’t let this happen, Bibi!!! Just because OUR president is worthless.... You dah man, Bibi!!!!! Be strong for the world...right now.
“Who would have imagined 5 years ago that the US would engage in secret talks to carve up the territory of an ally and give land to a nation of terrorists”
White House website - 2007 Bush said more than 5 years ago (from that date - i.e., 2002) he became the first U.S. President to call for the creation of a Palestinian state, side-by-side with Israel.
I saw the page. I saved it but I don’t have it online.
Found it. Looks like these guys saved the content.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/Bush071607.html
President Bush Outlines Vision for Peace in the Middle East
(July 16, 2007)
“THE PRESIDENT: Good afternoon. In recent weeks, debate in our country has rightly focused on the situation in Iraq — yet Iraq is not the only pivotal matter in the Middle East. More than five years ago, I became the first American President to call for the creation of a Palestinian state. In the Rose Garden, I said that Palestinians should not have to live in poverty and occupation. I said that the Israelis should not have to live in terror and violence. And I laid out a new vision for the future — two democratic states, Israel and Palestine, living side-by-side in peace and security.
Since then, many changes have come — some hopeful, some dispiriting. Israel has taken difficult actions, including withdrawal from Gaza and parts of the West Bank. Palestinians have held free elections, and chosen a president committed to peace. Arab states have put forward a plan that recognizes Israel’s place in the Middle East. And all these parties, along with most of the international community, now share the goal of a peaceful, democratic Palestinian state — a level of consensus never before seen on this crucial issue.”
Democrat Jews are probably very similar to the other Democrat Groups. They are Socialists first and members of their Group a distant second.
If youd like to be on or off, please FR mail me.
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Everything this traitor POSCIC does is backroom, underhanded, crooked, treasonous, criminal, and designed to devastate and destroy America.
and he does it all while saying how transparent he is.
I long for the day he and his eneablers are rounded up and put away for conspiracy and treason.
Everything this traitor POSCIC does is backroom, underhanded, crooked, treasonous, criminal, and designed to devastate and destroy America.
and he does it all while saying how transparent he is.
I long for the day he and his enablers are rounded up and put away for conspiracy and treason.
Everything this traitor POSCIC does is backroom, underhanded, crooked, treasonous, criminal, and designed to devastate and destroy America.
and he does it all while saying how transparent he is.
Everything this traitor POSCIC does is backroom, underhanded, crooked, treasonous, criminal, and designed to devastate and destroy America.
and he does it all while saying how transparent he is.
Bears repeating
“How do american Jooooos like the guy they voted for now?”
I am increasingly confident they could care less about Israel, or care about it a smug, I-know-better-than-those-silly-Zionists manner.
It is an amatuer mistake to equate the interests of American Jews with the interests of Israeli Jews.
To so many American Jews, Israel is a nice idea, but not one worth fighting for.
(And yes, I am an Israeli Jew, temporaily in the USA.)
This story is BS
“Arab sources, with a little help in Europe, are now engaged in a disinformation campaign claiming Obama is party to a “secret deal” that would see the US recognize a new declaration of Palestinian independence and jettison Security Council Resolutions 242 and 338. In other words, rather than negotiate with Israel, the Palestinians are still fantasizing that Obama will impose a solution and deliver Israel on bended knee.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2382056/posts
In addition, if armed Palestinians take to the streets to defend their so called statehood, Israelis will legitimately mow down an openly armed threat. No more hiding behind so called civilians which Goldstone can condemn them for..
You make a great point. Sacrificing their own people... insane.
From what I read here, they are not “their people.”
Socialists first, American somewhere down the line, and Zionist probably not at all.
Are you saying the Obama administration wouldn't use this tactic as leverage? So far, everything we have witnessed them do in negotiations with Israel suggests they would indeed threaten this.
In addition, if armed Palestinians take to the streets to defend their so called statehood, Israelis will legitimately mow down an openly armed threat.
Which is exactly the kind of PR nightmare Israel is desperate to avoid. Maybe the Obama administration doesn't have the balls to attempt it, and just maybe they have been wanting to put the screws to Israel all along. Just yesterday, Rep. Cantor was talking about possible changes in support for Israel in the house and senate. I put nothing past this bunch. Nothing.
*snicker* FR had a problem this morning. LOL sorry
In general I agree, though it may be an Arab "proposal"
Emanuel isn’t an IDF veteran. He gave up his Israeli citizenship in the brief period from age 17 1/2 to 18 it can be done, likely to avoid service in the IDF. He served in a volunteer program for a few weeks, which is quite different.
You can knock us down, but you can’t make us stay there. Better men have tried and failed for 3,500 years. I guess by piece, Obama means start a war. That’ll sure boost his approval index.
And it led to a great supply route for Hamas.
Peace in our time.
They’ll still make sure to keep some civilians handy.
That’s probably true.
I don’t think Obama will try this because, Cantor’s fears notwithstanding, the US Congress is not on Obama’s wavelength on Israel.
It is one thing to apply some pressure on settlements and another to force the 1967 truce lines on Israel, and yet another to void prior UN resolutions. Even on construction a huge majority of Congress signed on to a letter asking Obama to let up.
Someone on the Pali/Eurotrash/Chomsky side has been reading Susan Rice’s writings and decided it was a worth a shot and had merit as a scare tactic. Naturally Ha’aretz climbed aboard.
What most Arabs want is the death of Israel. Even if that happened it is not likely the various Muslim factions will ever live in peace.
According to what I read in the Bible, Israel will never be defeated by a foreign power until the Great Tribulation, and that will only be for a short time. I think things are shaping up for Ezekiel’s war (Chapts 38 & 39) and I think our Government is about to put us on the losing side.
Shirley, ewe jest?
This dolt can't even promise Shabuka a tank of gas and come through with it. Much less food on her (and her 15 kids) table, OR the monthly rent! (which is already subsidized by hard working citizens)
/rant
But 3 1nd a half years into the promised SEVEN, lands right smack in 2012! YEESH!
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