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To: DallasMike; RoadGumby; editor-surveyor; GodGunsGuts
“For example, look at how the Hebrew word eretz as used in the Bible. It can mean anything from the actual soil that you're standing upon, to a city, or to the entire planet. My young-earth friends interpret eretz to mean that Noah's flood covered the entire planet because that is a long-standing tradition. I and most others with science training see big problems with interpreting eretz to mean the entire planet and point out that the language of the Bible does not require us to believe that Noah's flood covered the entire planet.” [excerpt]
Second peter 2:5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth [person], a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;

The Greek word used for world is kosmos

Mathew 13:35 That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.

Since the foundation of the kosmos.

Second Peter 3:6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:

The kosmos were kataklyzō

Genesis 7:19,20 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that [were] under the whole heaven, were covered. Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.

Jesus speaking (Mathew 24:38,39) For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

A exegetical reading of both the NT and the OT points to a global flood, and when Christ spoke of the days of Noe, he does not contradict a global flood, but in fact supports it.

Anyway, you mentioned your young-earth friends, so I thought I'd chime in ;)
47 posted on 11/09/2009 10:34:30 PM PST by Fichori ('Wee-Weed Up' pitchfork wielding neolithic caveman villager with lit torch. Any questions?)
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To: Fichori
The Greek word used for world is kosmos

Thanks. I suggest you look at the other Greek meanings of the word cosmos. By your own link, one of the meanings is "the ungodly multitude; the whole mass of men alienated from God, and therefore hostile to the cause of Christ."

There is no disagreement with the Hebrew scriptures nor anything that requires that the entire planet be flooded -- only the place where people "hostile to Christ" lived. The human race was young and had yet to spread over the whole planet. Humanity was likely limited to the Mesopotamian basin. The Bible is wonderfully consistent!

An exegetical reading of scripture neither supports nor denies a planet-wide flood. However, God's revelation through his creation does not support a worldwide flood in the past 10,000 years. God's revelation through his creation clarifies things not spoken of in his special revelation through his word.

Thank you for helping me further make my point.


50 posted on 11/10/2009 1:27:55 PM PST by DallasMike
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