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Now I understand: Creationism vs. Evolution

Posted on 11/09/2009 12:31:42 PM PST by Cousin Eddie

Figures that I would learn this from my wife (who heard it from another woman):

A little girl asked her mother, "How did the human race appear?"

The mother answered, "God made Adam and Eve and they had children, and so all mankind was made."

Two days later the girl asked her father the same question.

The father answered, "Many years ago there were monkeys from which the human race evolved."

The confused girl returned to her mother and said, "Mom, how is it possible that you told me the human race was created by God, and Dad said they developed from monkeys?"

The mother answered, "Well, dear, it is very simple. I told you about my side of the family and your father told you about his."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: creationism; evolution

1 posted on 11/09/2009 12:31:42 PM PST by Cousin Eddie
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To: Cousin Eddie

LOL!


2 posted on 11/09/2009 12:34:18 PM PST by stylecouncilor (What Would Jim Thompson Do?)
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To: Cousin Eddie

i would bet my money on the father (in personal).


3 posted on 11/09/2009 12:35:04 PM PST by darkside321
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To: Cousin Eddie

LOL!!!


4 posted on 11/09/2009 12:35:59 PM PST by LIConFem
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To: Cousin Eddie

God made the monkeys that turned into humans. Adam and Eve were actually monkeys.

(I’ll take cover now) LOL


5 posted on 11/09/2009 12:36:59 PM PST by Tenacious 1 (Government For the People - an obviously concealed oxymoron)
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To: Cousin Eddie

That joke made me laugh. Thanks!


6 posted on 11/09/2009 12:39:24 PM PST by mojito
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To: Cousin Eddie

Humans are not descended from monkeys or apes. It’s a common smear that’s levelled against evolution, however.


7 posted on 11/09/2009 12:40:44 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: Tenacious 1

how is live into your shelter? ;-) interessting but VERY rare point of view.


8 posted on 11/09/2009 12:41:45 PM PST by darkside321
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To: Cousin Eddie

It was a cute joke.

As a rule, the atheists among us believe in the descended from monkeys as a release from feeling guilt for things they may have done, harmful things done to others, and they desperately want to abdicate any responsibility and deny the judge.

Still, the joke was really cute.


9 posted on 11/09/2009 12:43:25 PM PST by BertWheeler (Dance and the World Dances With You!)
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To: canuck_conservative

sadly, evoluitiionists believe that humans are related to oak trees if you go back far enough

Even whales, somewhere in the middle...


10 posted on 11/09/2009 12:46:18 PM PST by RaceBannon (OBAMA'S HEALTH CARE IS SHOVEL READY...FOR SENIORS!!:: NObama. Not my president.)
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To: BertWheeler

ok count me in as a “fellow” atheist. for me i don´t feel “guilty” for nothing. i would only feel guilty for things i have done. and since i have not done “really” bad things in my life (at least i can sleep while knowing what i have done) why should i see it diferent?
greetings


11 posted on 11/09/2009 12:51:39 PM PST by darkside321
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To: RaceBannon

There are many branches on the Tree of Life.

So what?


12 posted on 11/09/2009 12:55:11 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: darkside321

It’s about time someone with infinite patience, infinite love, infinite unselfishness, and infinite purity showed up here!!!!


13 posted on 11/09/2009 1:07:08 PM PST by Technical Editor
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To: canuck_conservative

If you want to convince yourself you’re just an acorn off that tree, tell yourself. But don’t tell me it’s science.

It is a religious belief with zero evidence.

At least by observation, Creation is the ONLY logical path to scientific truth. Evolution is unobserved, inobservable, and unprovable but claims to be science

Creation claims to be unobserved, inobservable, it just also claims to be recorded in it’s basic form: The Bible

Evolutionists show they not only have problems with science, but with God.


14 posted on 11/09/2009 1:08:58 PM PST by RaceBannon (OBAMA'S HEALTH CARE IS SHOVEL READY...FOR SENIORS!!:: NObama. Not my president.)
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To: RaceBannon
"that humans are related to oak trees"

One or two of us can even be described as a fungi!

15 posted on 11/09/2009 1:11:24 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear (These fragments I have shored against my ruins)
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To: RaceBannon

“...humans are related to oak trees...”

I’ve seen a lot of posts from humans who come across as wooden headed.


16 posted on 11/09/2009 1:15:52 PM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: RaceBannon

So every time a deadly virus suddenly appears, it’s not that it evolved from an existing germ, it’s actually God dumping it on the populace (since only God creates life, according to you)?

Why would he do something like that to innocent people?


17 posted on 11/09/2009 1:18:41 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: canuck_conservative
Humans are not descended from monkeys or apes. It’s a common smear that’s levelled against evolution, however.

Oh, that's right...{smacks forehead}...we evolved from pond scum.

18 posted on 11/09/2009 1:22:22 PM PST by ravingnutter
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To: darkside321

No offense intended to you, but many murderers sleep well at night. That’s the nature of a sociopathic personality.

Neither side in the debate can prove it’s premise, although you think you can. So, why are you placing all your chips on the premise that life is without meaning?

And why do so many atheists reflexively go left?

And why do so many atheists reflexively believe the death penalty should be abolished and even the most heinous murderers released after a dozen years? I mean, if atheists are right and there is no life after death and no judgement after death, why would atheist then push for the belief that, yeah, life in the here and now is of no value either.

If the atheists are right, then a murderer really offended the victim’s family and the society at large. So, why do atheists take a soft stance on murder?

Of course, I’m talking about your average every day atheist. Hitler and Stalin, as atheists, where up and running on the concept of death camps and cruelty, but that too is attributable to their atheism.

Like the atheist said, if there’s no God then there’s no God given rights and man is a slave to the state.


19 posted on 11/09/2009 1:32:13 PM PST by BertWheeler (Dance and the World Dances With You!)
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To: Cousin Eddie

Sometimes it’s so easy to get sucked into this most useless of useless discussions.


20 posted on 11/09/2009 1:40:57 PM PST by Publius6961 (…he's not America, he's an employee who hasn't risen to minimal expectations.)
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To: Cousin Eddie

If you believe there is a God or “Higher Being” then you believe he/she somehow created all of this.

If you don’t believe their is a God, then you must believe that all mass and the life combination of materials contained there in came from some infinitely tiny particle containing an infinite amount of mass that went bang.

Either way it takes faith to understand where we came from.


21 posted on 11/09/2009 2:17:30 PM PST by Tenacious 1 (Government For the People - an obviously concealed oxymoron)
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To: canuck_conservative

How do you know what it was at first?

Was it always a virus or was it once an acorn?

Which came first? The virus or the acorn?

After all, Evolutionists dont know what came when, revise their family tree once each generation, sometimes twice, have dismissed EVERY known hominid fossil found between 1800 and 1970 with the one exception of LUCY, whenever that was, and tried to say that even though they dismissed all that evidence, they were right, when they now admit they were wrong.

And you expect somehting like a virus adapting to it’s environment by weeding out weaker virus strains as evidence that humans came from pond scum?

Please, go home, Evolutionary logic is more religious than Creation, At least Creation admits it takes God to start it all...


22 posted on 11/09/2009 3:30:37 PM PST by RaceBannon (OBAMA'S HEALTH CARE IS SHOVEL READY...FOR SENIORS!!:: NObama. Not my president.)
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To: Cousin Eddie

Was it the chicken or the egg that came first

When this world was made?

Well, on the third day God made chickens and the other birds

Before any eggs were laid.

It takes more faith to believe evolution

Your pardon I must beg.

You see, Adam didn’t have no belly button,

And God didn’t lay no egg.

C. 1997 The Blue Collar Christian

The Christians on this thread will not win anyone over to the creation side by insulting the evolutionists and atheists. Believe me, I walked in their shoes for a long time. Only the LORD can change them, and you guys are not the LORD. Be kind to all. Pray for revival.

Now if I can just manage that myself...


23 posted on 11/09/2009 7:40:08 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (><BCC>NRA)
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To: ravingnutter
Oh, that's right...{smacks forehead}...we evolved from pond scum.

Or made out of dirt?

24 posted on 11/09/2009 7:45:30 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: RaceBannon
At least Creation admits it takes God to start it all...

One time creationists said Angels held the clouds up in the air.

25 posted on 11/09/2009 7:46:46 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: Publius6961; RaceBannon; ravingnutter; BertWheeler

“Sometimes it’s so easy to get sucked into this most useless of useless discussions.”

I agree.

Please see my earlier post.


26 posted on 11/09/2009 7:52:47 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (><BCC>NRA)
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To: RaceBannon
Evolutionists [...] have dismissed EVERY known hominid fossil found between 1800 and 1970 with the one exception of LUCY

Um, no.

But really, Race, you are a gas. You have a knack for getting things so absolutely and utterly wrong as to stagger the reader, and then adding to that the most amusingly elegant filigrees and codas of wrongness.

For instance, although there are plenty of pre-1970 hominid fossils which retain that status, the "one exception" you allow was discovered AFTER 1970.

And you assert everything you write with a supremely unassailable air of superiority and self confidence which lifts the unintended humor, somehow, from the merely slapstick to the sublime.

LOL! I mean, if an evolutionist was consciously trying to create a satirical version of the ultimate clueless creationist's rant, they could never come up with anything remotely approaching in sheer hilarity what flows effortlessly from your keyboard.

I write this not in insult, but in awe. On this subject you have mastered ignorance to such a degree that it becomes a kind of genius.

27 posted on 11/09/2009 9:49:38 PM PST by Stultis (Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia; Democrats always opposed waterboarding as torture)
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To: Stultis

yeah, right
Piltdown man
Peking Man
Java Man

yeah, right! LOL!!


28 posted on 11/10/2009 5:40:52 AM PST by RaceBannon (OBAMA'S HEALTH CARE IS SHOVEL READY...FOR SENIORS!!:: NObama. Not my president.)
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To: ColdWater

The Bible never said that.

So, which creationist? The same animists like Richard Dawkins?


29 posted on 11/10/2009 5:44:21 AM PST by RaceBannon (OBAMA'S HEALTH CARE IS SHOVEL READY...FOR SENIORS!!:: NObama. Not my president.)
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To: Blue Collar Christian

These creationist vs. evolutionist debates are, from my viewpoint, a lot of fun so long as you keep your humor about you.


30 posted on 11/10/2009 6:34:51 AM PST by BertWheeler (Dance and the World Dances With You!)
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To: RaceBannon

“yeah, right
Piltdown man
Peking Man
Java Man”

—I’m not sure why you bring up Peking and Java Man. They are simply examples of Homo erectus fossils and haven’t been “dismissed”. Homo erectus finds have been around for 120 years, Homo heidelbergensis for over 100 years, Homo habilis and Autralopithecus anamensis for about 50 years, etc, and none have been dismissed. So not sure where you get the idea that everything before 1970 has been dismissed.
Piltdown Man is far more of an exception than Lucy.

Thanks for your service in the Marines. Happy Veteran’s Day!


31 posted on 11/10/2009 7:15:43 AM PST by goodusername
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To: goodusername

thank you for thanking me, but my gosh, Evolution is so far from actual science it is a fairy tale!

The complexity of the cell alone, the faithfulness of DNA replication, there is no excuse a thinking rational human can believe in evolution over God.


32 posted on 11/10/2009 7:36:53 AM PST by RaceBannon (OBAMA'S HEALTH CARE IS SHOVEL READY...FOR SENIORS!!:: NObama. Not my president.)
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To: BertWheeler

Though they can be fun, provided we use humor, it is a very serious debate; whether one accepts the authority of God or not. An insult to an evolutionist will not draw him or her nearer to God. What non-believer in his right mind would want to be like the Christian that insults him?


33 posted on 11/10/2009 7:48:30 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (><BCC>NRA)
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To: RaceBannon
yeah, right
Piltdown man
Peking Man
Java Man

yeah, right! LOL!!

While Piltdown Man was indeed a hoax, Peking Man and Java Man are perfectly good hominids. Both are valid examples of the species Homo erectus.

But then this could be explained to you a hundred times, a thousand times (as I'm certain it has been dozens) and documented in the most painstaking detail, without having the slightest effect on your knowledge of the subject.

Your ignorance is unassailable and pristine. It remains as soft and fresh and new as a baby's butt, no matter how many times you messed yourself and needed your diapers changed. It's an idiocy evergreen! One should almost write a song about it.

34 posted on 11/10/2009 2:42:36 PM PST by Stultis (Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia; Democrats always opposed waterboarding as torture)
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To: Blue Collar Christian
You see, Adam didn’t have no belly button,

Oh Yeah?!

Well, I guess you figure you oughta repaint the ceiling of The Sistine Chapel, eh, Mister I-know-better-than-Michelfreak'nangelo?!


35 posted on 11/10/2009 2:57:26 PM PST by Stultis (Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia; Democrats always opposed waterboarding as torture)
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To: Stultis

Oh, pleeeze, here you go again!

PEKING MAN only existed in written form for decades! The original bones were LOST to any modern forensic analysis as to where they came from or how they got there, and knowing they came from a trash pit to being with, you have NO IDEA what fits with what in the first place!

You have NO IDEA how many animals bones are mixed up in that ashheap, you have NO IDEA just what it looked like, yet you demand to call it science!

Next thing, you’ll be telling me flogiston still exists!


36 posted on 11/10/2009 3:26:09 PM PST by RaceBannon (OBAMA'S HEALTH CARE IS SHOVEL READY...FOR SENIORS!!:: NObama. Not my president.)
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To: RaceBannon
you have NO IDEA just what it looked like

Photographs had been taken. (Even xrays.) Casts had been made and distributed to scientists all around the world. More material was found at the same site after the war. (Included part of skull cap that mated with the cast of a peice from the lost material.) And in any case we have other asian Homo erectus from other sites.

But, despite the photos, casts, xrays, measurements and post war fossils, we just have NO IDEA. NO IDEA at all.

Photo and x-ray of one of the Peking Man skulls, but don't let these go giving you NO IDEAs:


Drawing of the mating pre and post war skull fossils. (All figures from this article:

BTW, I recall hearing this past spring that the original Peking Man casts produced in the 1930s are being digitized and reproduced using the latest and most advanced virtual imaging and 3-D printing techinques.

37 posted on 11/10/2009 4:09:18 PM PST by Stultis (Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia; Democrats always opposed waterboarding as torture)
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To: Stultis

Are you saying that Michelangelo KNEW Adam had a belly button?

I think even you know that though Michelfreak’nangelo lived a long, long time ago, he wasn’t there with Adam, so this is an artist’s interpretation of a scene. My little poem is also an artist’s interpretation of what I believe to be so. To believe in creation, it would only make sense that Adam, having never been in the womb, would not have had an umbilical cord, and thus not a belly button either.

Of course, if he was born of some other species, as an evolutionist believes, he would then have had a belly button, as our renaissance artist’s interpretation depicts. Maybe Michelangelo was ahead of his time and tipped Darwin off with this photograph.

Re: the painting on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel-I would bet too, that God probably doesn’t grow a beard, but that would just be a guess. No scripture to support it one way or the other.

Why do you resort to cyberbully namecallng tactics. I am not your enemy. I’m stating how I believe and doubt the belief of the evolutionist, which was the gist of this thread. Neither of us has proof, only faith. My opinion stands, I think Michelangelo painted a belly button where there was none. We don’t have to fix the ceiling, or my poem, for that matter.


38 posted on 11/10/2009 8:42:28 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (I could be wrong, there's a 1st time for everthing. ><BCC> NRA)
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To: Blue Collar Christian
Why do you resort to cyberbully namecallng tactics.

Chill. I was just joking around. (I thought obviously.)

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Now I understand: Creationism vs. Evolution
Tuesday, November 10, 2009 9:48:30 AM · 33 of 38
Blue Collar Christian to BertWheeler

Though they can be fun, provided we use humor [...]

39 posted on 11/11/2009 3:13:41 AM PST by Stultis (Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia; Democrats always opposed waterboarding as torture)
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To: Stultis

I guess I used up my new tag line.


40 posted on 11/11/2009 4:40:51 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (I could be wrong, there's a 1st time for everthing. ><BCC> NRA)
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To: BertWheeler

I take it you don’t have much respect for people who believe that God could have created life with the ability to evolve.


42 posted on 11/17/2009 8:21:59 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: 2/75 RANGER

We can tell those that print revisionist history books how it displeases us, we can tell the same to those who publish textbooks that refer to evolution as fact. And have you looked at the new math? I have to go back through several chapters of those to help any student who asks for tutoring and learn a new way to get “x” to one side of an equation.

We must act independently of the education system these days to make any progress (or is that reverse progress?) to the indoctrination given our kids in all levels of education. We have to live good lives and show that it’s not undesirable to be on God’s good side. We must raise our children to look out for the lies that will be shoved in their faces the rest of their lives, from education (indoctrination) to advertising. They even have to learn to double check the preaching of their good pastor, and the teaching of their Sunday School teachers. Satan only needs to steer one off course but the nth degree to succeed.

this is the chorus from one of the first songs I wrote as a prayer to raise our son right: “This Daddy’s Prayer”

Lord, help us teach him the danger of Satan’s lies.

And let Jesus into his heart before he dies.

So we can still be a family in Heaven way up there.

I’m sure Lord you can hear this daddy’s prayer.

This was inspired by the local important people (I think City Council, PTA and other fuddy duddies) in the little town we lived in at the time doing a TV studio and home audience forum about a contract between teens and their parents. They wanted parents to sign a contract with their kids so the kid could call home from a party too wasted to drive and Mom or Dad would come pick them up and not be mad and punish their kid for getting drunk or whatever.

I knew right then that we were on our own raising the boy. We weren’t going to get any help from schools and the community.

Maybe that’s as it should be.


43 posted on 11/17/2009 10:07:58 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (I forget the last time I made a mistake. It's handy. ><BCC> NRA)
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