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Justice Dept. Asked For News Site's Visitor Lists
CBS News ^ | November 10, 2009 | Declan McCullagh

Posted on 11/10/2009 4:52:19 AM PST by COUNTrecount

In a case that raises questions about online journalism and privacy rights, the U.S. Department of Justice sent a formal request to an independent news site ordering it to provide details of all reader visits on a certain day.

The grand jury subpoena also required the Philadelphia-based Indymedia.us Web site "not to disclose the existence of this request" unless authorized by the Justice Department, a gag order that presents an unusual quandary for any news organization.

Kristina Clair, a 34-year old Linux administrator living in Philadelphia who provides free server space for Indymedia.us, said she was shocked to receive the Justice Department's subpoena. (The Independent Media Center is a left-of-center amalgamation of journalists and advocates that – according to their principles of unity and mission statement – work toward "promoting social and economic justice" and "social change.")

The subpoena (PDF) from U.S. Attorney Tim Morrison in Indianapolis demanded "all IP traffic to and from www.indymedia.us" on June 25, 2008. It instructed Clair to "include IP addresses, times, and any other identifying information," including e-mail addresses, physical addresses, registered accounts, and Indymedia readers' Social Security Numbers, bank account numbers, credit card numbers, and so on.

"I didn't think anything we were doing was worthy of any (federal) attention," Clair said in a telephone interview with CBSNews.com on Monday. After talking to other Indymedia volunteers, Clair ended up calling the Electronic Frontier Foundation in San Francisco, which represented her at no cost.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
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1 posted on 11/10/2009 4:52:20 AM PST by COUNTrecount
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To: COUNTrecount

Papers please....


2 posted on 11/10/2009 4:57:35 AM PST by Vermont Lt (My wife reads my posts. In case the FBI shows up, we will have cookies.)
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To: COUNTrecount

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2382874/posts

duplicate post!


3 posted on 11/10/2009 5:00:13 AM PST by sodpoodle (Never give up- Keep Up!!!)
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To: Vermont Lt

Liberal BS web site. Full of misinformation.

I think it is wrong, but I find it ironic that a socialist site would get hit up by a socialist administration.

Welcome to your brave new world, lefties.


4 posted on 11/10/2009 5:01:33 AM PST by cizinec
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To: sodpoodle

Did a search.The title did not come up because the poster added a word to the original title.


5 posted on 11/10/2009 5:04:18 AM PST by COUNTrecount (Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither)
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To: cizinec
I think it is wrong, but I find it ironic that a socialist site would get hit up by a socialist administration.

The subpoena was dated mid-2008, so it was a different socialist administration.

6 posted on 11/10/2009 5:11:06 AM PST by SlowBoat407 (Achtung. preparen zie fur die obamahopenchangen.)
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To: COUNTrecount
So if I read the article right the DOJ issued a subpoena in Feb. 2009 for information from this site on a certian specific date in the future - June 25, 2009.

Makes you wonder what was suppose to happen on June 24th that the DOJ wanted all possible info on people visiting the site the next day?

7 posted on 11/10/2009 5:14:10 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: cizinec

We’re next. I’ve got dibs on the top bunk.


8 posted on 11/10/2009 5:15:25 AM PST by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: COUNTrecount

Plausible deniability is all we will be left with soon.

The gov thinks it has a right to all data for any reason.

Encrypt, delete and shred (better to do a wet grind)
They will get around to FR, count on it.


9 posted on 11/10/2009 5:22:48 AM PST by Bobalu (I AM JIM THOMPSON)
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To: sodpoodle

I cant stand you duplicate post nazis. Who the hell cares if there are multiple posts. I imagine you are a grammar nazi too. Enjoy the articles, we are big enough boys and girls to figure out if there are multiple posts.


10 posted on 11/10/2009 5:24:26 AM PST by Walkingfeather
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To: SlowBoat407

Maybe you ought to CAREFULLY READ the article, and associated attachments.

If you do, in the eighth paragraph, you will find a link to a document, clearly stating that the subpoena was dated January 23, **2009**. It demanded (as already stated) information from June 25, *2008*

Link referenced: http://www.eff.org/files/1st-letter-from-eff.pdf


11 posted on 11/10/2009 5:25:51 AM PST by BB62
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To: Red_Devil 232

You can’t be serious? You read the article and THIS is what you come up with???

Try again: In the eighth paragraph, you will find a link to a document, clearly stating that the subpoena was dated January 23, **2009**. It demanded (as already stated) information from June 25, *2008*

Link referenced: http://www.eff.org/files/1st-letter-from-eff.pdf


12 posted on 11/10/2009 5:26:54 AM PST by BB62
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To: COUNTrecount

The Constitution is just another piece of paper to these guys.


13 posted on 11/10/2009 5:27:22 AM PST by marstegreg
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To: Walkingfeather
-- Who the hell cares if there are multiple posts. --

I don't much care if there are duplicates, myself, but I find it helpful when they are cross-linked so I can read all the comments.

14 posted on 11/10/2009 5:28:11 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: BB62

I stand corrected!


15 posted on 11/10/2009 5:29:41 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Walkingfeather

Duplicate posts use precious bandwidth.

When the first authored topic appears, many FReepers begin exceptional research - for that reason - a *duplicate post* alert is a good cross reference.

You might have noted - I do not alert the moderators or make abusive comments, nor am I a grammar freak - unless an article contains misleading punctuation. I do not correct other FReepers’ misuse or abuse of the English language. I am much too humble.


16 posted on 11/10/2009 5:32:56 AM PST by sodpoodle (Never give up- Keep Up!!!)
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To: Walkingfeather

The purpose of avoiding duplicate posts is that there already is a discussion by freepers in the other thread, and by duplicating the post you cut off some freepers from the group discussing the post in the other thread.

I think that we aren’t forceful enough on this point. I wish every duplicate was locked, with a link to the original post. That way those who claim that the duplicate “gets the issue back on the front page” would get their way, but the discussion would all be directed to the place where people already spent the time discussing the issue.


17 posted on 11/10/2009 5:33:42 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: COUNTrecount

Another example of arrogant overreach by an aggressive socialist government in the pursuit of its anti-Constitutional aims. This is simply wrong and unconscionable.

It’s time to take back the country.


18 posted on 11/10/2009 5:43:55 AM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: sodpoodle
I am much too humble.

LOL. Now that's funny.

If you have to tell someone you're "humble", um, you're not.
19 posted on 11/10/2009 5:52:40 AM PST by khnyny (Bill Clinton and Barack Obama are both lefties:)
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To: COUNTrecount

??????


20 posted on 11/10/2009 5:55:48 AM PST by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: khnyny

***If you have to tell someone you’re “humble”, um, you’re not.****

That is what I keep telling myself - but I don’t listen;)


21 posted on 11/10/2009 5:57:10 AM PST by sodpoodle (Never give up- Keep Up!!!)
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To: sodpoodle

...and no one’s humility is greater than yours.


22 posted on 11/10/2009 6:10:30 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: Mr. Lucky

Hard to believe ain’t it?

sod;)


23 posted on 11/10/2009 6:13:53 AM PST by sodpoodle (Never give up- Keep Up!!!)
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To: sodpoodle

Lol. Cute.


24 posted on 11/10/2009 6:14:16 AM PST by khnyny (Bill Clinton and Barack Obama are both lefties:)
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To: khnyny

It would appear that we have killed this thread.

Semantic Sharia!!!


25 posted on 11/10/2009 6:36:56 AM PST by sodpoodle (Never give up- Keep Up!!!)
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To: BB62

Good catch, although if the subpoena had been issued by the Bush Admin, all this righteous indignation would disappear like a fart in the wind.


26 posted on 11/10/2009 6:39:58 AM PST by Boiling Pots (Barack Obama: The Final Turd George W. Bush laid on America)
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