Posted on 11/10/2009 10:45:12 AM PST by IbJensen
The breaking news about Fort Hood made me cringe.
Like most Muslims, I hoped the shooter would be a Smith or Jones, while some smirked and gleefully waited for a Muslim name to say, I told you so.
Once again, this incident would highlight the polarized social relations in American society amid a national tragedy.
American Muslims would be uncomfortable by intense media scrutiny, while others would have a field day maligning Islam and blaming Muslims.
And both would be wrong.
If Major Nidal Malik Hasan were Robert Stewart, who committed mass killings at a nursing home in North Carolina, or Mike McLendon, who massacred his former co-workers in Alabama, it would be another tragic episode requiring a routine investigation and short-lived news coverage.
But the dynamics of this tragedy are much different and demand a full and thorough investigation for many unanswered questions: The alleged shooter did not just kill his co-workers; he killed the individuals who made a selfless commitment to defend the homeland, and thus all Americans.
The U.S. Army is no ordinary institution that would promote an individual to the rank of major without appropriate training and serious screening. Hasan was not only a trained officer, but also a trained physician -- a mental-health caregiver.
It is bad enough if he were just another ideologue who fooled the system to become an officer.
It is far more harmful and dangerous if he cracked after listening to the horror stories from combat-stressed soldiers returning from a questionable conflict in Iraq.
The suicide rate among veterans underscores the need to look into the state of mental health of all military caregivers.
Also, there is a matter of trust.
The soldiers facing the enemy trust that their backs are protected by comrades in uniform. This sacred trust is what makes our military a cohesive unit of fellow soldiers regardless of race, religion or ethnicity.
The tragedy in Fort Hood leaves many unexplained variables.
Therefore, it must be investigated thoroughly, and media must report the facts regardless of peoples' insecurity or bigotry.
As a military veteran I know there are many proud and patriotic American Muslims serving their country in uniform.
News coverage should not make American Muslims uncomfortable. They bear no responsibility for the actions of a deranged individual.
Nor should anyone say, ``I told you so,'' if for no other reason than out of respect for 13 dead victims at Fort Hood.
It's an American tragedy due to the fact that even the Army is inundated with political correctness.
It's a muslim tragedy because killing is what their 'religion' is all about!
“Allahu Akbar!” - Maj Hasan
And just whose fault is that, Mohammed?
In his book he says the Prettiest sound on EARTH is the Muslim call to prayer at sunset.
Barack Hussein Obama
Now he will speak over the dead, done by the Islamist terrorist of his ‘prettiest sound on earth’ religion.
As an American, I refuse to take any blame whatsoever for what happened. I didn’t invite the muslims to this country and won’t take the blame for what they do to our people. I expect our military to accordingly and take our military back. I’m tired of having to listen to this crap. The muslim excuses mean nothing to me any more. I use to be open minded about most everything. Not any more. We, as Americans, are Judeo/Christians, nothing more.
Hogwash. In my military career, I thought it was a routine thing.
To dominate and Islamize America. Politically and every other way.
One world Government, One world Religion. No exceptions.
Many? The number of Muslims in the U.S. military is hard to estimate. Estimates vary from 4000 to more than 12000.
If this was a one time event, I’d say yeah, chalk it up to a crazy guy.
I’d be relieved to know that only one guy yelled “Allah Akbar” as he shot up a military readiness center.
But people who love America (this does not include all who live in America) still remember when another group of Muslims screamed “Allah Akbar” as they flew commercial jets into the twin towers and killed over 3,000 Americans in one day.
Christians don’t go into mosques with machine guns screaming “Jesus died for your sins! and spray the crowd with bullets. And if such a freak event happened, churches across the world wouldn’t ring their bells and proclaim a day of celebration.
So, Muslims, take a good hard look at yourself.
‘It is far more harmful and dangerous if he cracked after listening to the horror stories from combat-stressed soldiers’
That smell is the smell of Bull sh*t.
Then they damn well better be leading the charge against this guy and any others like him that may be biding their time. Get on board or get out, NOW.
I think my son’s voice is the prettiest sound on earth, followed closely by:
Pledge of Allegiance, the sound of a10 Warthogs sending Jihadists to Hell...
They are here to suck in all the blessings made possible by Western civilization, with no sense of obligation whatsoever. That is your typical Muslim in America. In it, but not of it.
Look at Nidal Hasan.
Then there are Muslims who are full of hatred for this society and its supposed corrupting freedoms. They preach Islamic supremacy and advocate or actually carry out jihadi violence.
Look at Nidal Hasan.
islam is the culprit, no excuses needed.
And extra stinky Bull sh*t at that.
Nor should anyone say, ``I told you so,'' if for no other reason than out of respect for 13 dead victims at Fort Hood.
"Shut Up!", Mohammad explained.
Where does one draw the line between "deranged" and "rational but evil"? Too often we try to rationalize evil as just insanity. I believe that Hassan decided to make war against his country. He was not driven crazy by society. He was not ranting irrationally. From what I have heard he practiced his shooting and even took tactical training classes to improve his effectiveness in murder. Was he some insane man who thought his neighbor's dog was a cconduit for devine elightenment? No. He decided that the enemies of this nation were right and we should be dead.
As a military veteran I know there are many proud and patriotic American Muslims serving their country in uniform.
News coverage should not make American Muslims uncomfortable. They bear no responsibility for the actions of a deranged individual.
A few thoughts:
1) Thanks to any American who serves their country honorably, regardless of religion.
2) Agreed that the reporting ought to go where facts lead, rather than the spin we've generally received from the MSM and Military.
3) American Muslims bear no direct responsibility for the particular act, but they do bear a responsibility in advance to curb Islamofascism in their community, and to directly condemn and excise it when it occurs in instances like this.
It's #3 that we usually miss.
I told you so.
What they are not here for is the love of what this country truly stands for. A quality that used to matter to us.
FOURTEEN dead victims, one woman was pregnant.
How is saying ‘I told you so’ disrespectful to the dead? They can’t say it. Someone has to.
The others this guy mentions who committed those crimes did it because they were malevolent individuals. There’s no comparison. Muslims do this because they are muslims. It’s a fundamental part of their religious doctrine. Islam has been the mortal enemy of western civilization for almost 14 centuries, and their intent is to conquer us. Their best weapons are our paralysis from PC, and collaborators in the American left.
Yes. The dumb turd writing this has no conception of the military, none.
Not only that, he wants to equate this with a mentally disturbed person shooting up a nursing home. There is no parallel, none.
Where he is correct is that military personnel are engaged in activities where they need to retain trust in the people around them. Anyone who has any knowledge of Islam knows there are specific passages that encourage lying and deception by muslims to infidels as a routine tool, a means to obtain an end.
I would not want to be in a combat situation in a muslim country with only a muslim soldier covering my six. I cannot imagine there are many active duty combat veterans with experience in the Middle East who would disagree, but I could be wrong. If they have to fight with non-American muslims by their side, that comes with the territory, a necessary thing. But to allow excrement like this "Major" to mingle freely with unsuspecting troops is a crime. It is entirely possible there are muslims out there who don't agree or abide by those parts of the Koran, and some of those mulims may be in the US military.
What those muslims may fail to appreciate is that they are viewed as apostates by the radical muslims. And according to the Koran, of the various segments of the world that jihad is encouraged against (Thieves, infidels, etc.) there is a special jihad with its own circle of Hell reserved for apostates.
In light of the comments by that dummy Chris Matthews "Is it a crime to call Al-Queda?" and others like him that view this as just something that only serves to rile up the right side of the political spectrum: They have a special name for YOU and people like you, Chrissy.
Dhimmi.
I call bull$h|t! If the so called “good Muslims” would make an honest effort to help protect Americans from bad Muslims, instead of worrying about, mostly imaginary, “Muslim backlash”, there would be any backlash to worry about.
Over the years I have heard Muslims on the phone deescribe that about 25-30% are radical and the rest are pease loving. I have no argument with that but there is a problem.
The pease loving Muslims know who the radicals are I can not tell untilo it is too late. Therefore, for self preservation I have to assume that all Muslims are violent.
At least until the peaseful ones turn in the violent!
They are here to spread Islam, clear and simple. Have you seen the hatred-filled contorted faces of British Muslims in the streets predicting that Islam will rule Britain? You will soon see these pictures here in the US.
And, just like in Britain, the American public will watch, disinterestedly. Even our congresscritters don’t get the message and don’t care about the decline of this nation. They don’t even seem to care about the future of their very children.
Nice bunch.
Please take yourself and your fellow cult members to whatever Muslim country you chose, a right you have since you are on American soil and we believe in freedom. Freedom is not a concept that Muslim cult worshippers grasp or understand which is why none of you cultists deserve to be here..
“Is it a crime to call Al-Queda?”
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Not until some Congressman’s personal bodyguard or a member of the Capitol police starts to communicate with Al-Qaeda will that question be answered.
In the meantime, to hell with the safety of the American public.
The title of the article should have been:
ISLAM, AN AMERICAN TRAGEDY.
BS Mo. NOBODY "smirked and gleefully waited for a Muslim name" so they could say "I told you so" or for any other reason. The reaction of even those who correctly point out Hassan's anti-American and pro-jihadi rantings, and who also point out that witnesses say he was shouting "Allahu Akbar" as he committed his cowardly act, was one of outrage and of sorrow, but ABSOLUTELY not smirking or glee. The whole of the article is discredited by this BS lie right in the middle of its opening statements.
1. Islam is not only a spiritual practice, but is also a political exercise and a governmental institution.
2. Islam is, therefore, in direct conflict with the system of law that governs our nation. It would also be impossible for any Muslim who strictly adheres to Islam as a spiritual practice, a political exercise and a system of government to swear to defend the Constitution of the United States
3. Dr. Hasan’s understanding of his faith is at the core of his dissatisfaction with his employment resulting in his decision to take up arms and commit fratricide against his brothers and sisters at arms and treason against the United States of America.
4. Unless, or until, Islam in America disavows any allegiance to the political and governmental branches of the practice of the faith, there should be no tolerance of the religion in the military. This is not due to bigotry but, rather, to the violation of conscience that results from the deeply held faith that conflicts with the Constitution and the oath to protect it.
5. Neither Christianity, nor Judiasm, nor Hinduism, nor Buddhism requires the practitioner to swear allegiance to any other form of government in order to practice the faith.
6. It is, therefore, only logical that to be a Muslim is a direct conflict of interest and a violation of conscience regardless of whether the practitioner makes the decision to take up arms against our nation or commit criminal acts.
7. To say that Dr. Hasan’s acts are not the result of his religious beliefs is disingenuous. To say that in order to not be guilty of bigotry one must overlook the obvious conflicts of conscience engendered by the practice of Islam is ludicrous and without merit.
8. It is time to speak truthfully regarding the practice of Islam. It is a religious practice that is in direct contradiction of our system of government and will continually cause strife and distress while it remains a political and system of government.
9. No insult or bigotry is intended by this observation. It is a simple and direct assessment of the current state of affairs in all countries that have historically been referred to as “Western Civilizations”. The practices of Islam and Western Civilization are incompatible.
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