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Why There Will Be More Military Base Shootings
Pajamas Media ^ | November 9 | Patrick Poole

Posted on 11/10/2009 11:17:25 AM PST by AJKauf

It should be acknowledged that the military already has existing policies for weeding out neo-Nazis, gang members, and those with psychological problems from their ranks. An existing 1996 Defense Department directive explicitly prohibits a wide range of “dissident activities” targeting “organizations espousing supremacist causes,” namely racist and neo-Nazi groups, notwithstanding the religious trappings that those groups have adopted to cloak their ideology. These measures are encouraged by civil rights groups, such as the Southern Poverty Law Center. If it is true that jihadist ideology has nothing to do with Islam, as we are told, then surely there should be no problem addressing jihadist ideology as the military already does with racist or gang threats.

The case of Major Hasan illustrates that no matter how virulent the views or outspoken a military service member might be about their anti-American or jihadist sentiments, that appears to be no impediment to a permanent pathway to promotion in our armed forces. The killings at Ft. Hood are not the first to be inspired by jihadist ideology from within or without, and until military leaders begin to take action to address this rapidly growing problem, it is likely they won’t be the last. Until the threat of jihadist ideology is acknowledged and addressed, our military bases and recruiting centers will remain attractive and vulnerable targets......

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gwot; jihadinamerica; militarybase; nidalmalikhasan

1 posted on 11/10/2009 11:17:26 AM PST by AJKauf
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To: AJKauf

I would think the Muslims in our military would be a little nervous right now.


2 posted on 11/10/2009 11:19:47 AM PST by unkus
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To: AJKauf

Because liberalism is a mental disorder.


3 posted on 11/10/2009 11:21:34 AM PST by jpl
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To: AJKauf

PC and Barack Hussein Obama killed those soldiers.

If I were a parent of one of the soldiers I’d be thinking about suing for gross negligence. It’s our MILITARY for God’s sake.


4 posted on 11/10/2009 11:22:18 AM PST by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: AJKauf

There could be more shootings or bombings—maybe this was a test to see if they will get away with it—especially with a Muslim in the WH now. It seems that contacting a jihadist via emails might have been a heads up on the rampage. Plans might be underway for something bigger.


5 posted on 11/10/2009 11:23:41 AM PST by Achilles Heel
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To: Aria

Which is why the government has granted itself blanket immunity from such lawsuits.

Unless you can convince the government that the behavior is so aggregious as to cause them to voluntarily drop their immunity.

Rarely happens.


6 posted on 11/10/2009 11:24:06 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: Aria

That plus the no weapons on base rule.

Do you think Hasan would have tried, if he knew that people were carrying? I don’t.

Thank you Clinton!


7 posted on 11/10/2009 11:24:51 AM PST by BenKenobi
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To: BenKenobi

The government doesn’t have a problem with weeding out Evangelicals at Air Force.


8 posted on 11/10/2009 11:28:04 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: AJKauf

Of course there will be more shootings on our military bases. This muslim terrorist made no secret of his true feelings and was able to perpetrate his terrorist act without any action taken by the government to stop it. Now that other terrorists know that they too can get away with a brazen attack at one of our military bases no less, they will have no qualms about going after our troops on base, as well as civilians in soft targets because they know that muslim terrorists are a protected class of people in this country.


9 posted on 11/10/2009 11:28:41 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: AJKauf
Maybe there are simple devices that could help.
10 posted on 11/10/2009 11:30:48 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: unkus

The muslim jihadists aren’t nervous about anything. They’re willing to die. Muslims who aren’t planning anything might be. But why didn’t some of Hasan’s muslim friends turn him in. They couldn’t be accused of rascism. Oh, wait, they’re muslim.


11 posted on 11/10/2009 11:31:36 AM PST by Terry Mross
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To: SJSAMPLE

I can understand immunity from events happening on the battlefield but not such gross negligence on their base here at home.

Apparently PC is more important than the lives of our soldiers. I couldn’t believe what the general said....can he really believe it?


12 posted on 11/10/2009 11:33:44 AM PST by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: BenKenobi

The government doesn’t have a problem with weeding out Evangelicals at Air Force.


13 posted on 11/10/2009 11:34:48 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: unkus

I would think they would be encouraged. Hassan made absolutely no secret of his beliefs and intentions yet he was allowed to freely walk into a building and start murdering.


14 posted on 11/10/2009 12:11:24 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The Second Amendment. Don't MAKE me use it.)
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To: Aria
“I can understand immunity from events happening on the battlefield but not such gross negligence on their base here at home.”

Why do you assume that Army officials have not attempted to deal with this terrorist?

Sit back and think this over for a few minutes. Service members had complained about this guy's statements, so Army officials were aware of the problem. Since he's a major you can bet that any complaints about his duty performance or anti-American statements were made known to higher ranking officers, and its highly likely flag level officers had been made aware of the complaints.

When a field grade officer...especially a minority or woman...gets a “unsat” fitness report, alarm bells go off much further up the chain of command. The rater (supervisor) and the rater's rater (two levels of supervision up) were involved in writing and approval of this fitness report. They had to justify their conclusions about this officer to their superiors.

The FBI knew about this Muslim? How do you think they got involved? Do you think for one minute that once the FBI started looking into this guy that they didn't talk with his Army leadership? Assuming the FBI did speak with his supervisory chain...and I do make that assumption...you can bet with 100 percent certainty that his leadership hearing that the FBI was investigating an active duty Army officer under their command sent off even bigger alarm bells, and that the knowledge of that fact went way, way up the chain.

I think this story has a final chapter that is much, much uglier than anything we've seen or heard to date. And I'll bet that the Sandy Berger's “twin sister” started shredding documents while the killer's gun was still smoking, and has continued for days afterward to try to cover someone's tracks. And these tracks are big.

Unfortunately, I don't think there are any journalists left in the US who would listen to “Deep Throat”.

15 posted on 11/10/2009 12:24:31 PM PST by RavenATB
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To: RavenATB

I’m a woman and know almost nothing about how the military really works.

But, I saw the general - is it Casey? - on TV giving the don’t jump to conclusions comments, or what ever the Obama approved message is.

And the murderer apparently wanted out and the military said no. Was this during Bush or Obama? I don’t know.

All I know is that PC has cost too many lives and it’s insanity.

I’d be interesting in hearing your thoughts about the ‘final chapter’. What makes a United States General act like this?


16 posted on 11/10/2009 12:50:35 PM PST by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: Aria
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/6712102.html

This article may be helpful in understanding the timeline of events. There is some info here I'd not seen before.

FYI.

Regarding Gen Casey, I can't speak to the man's motivation or sympathies. I understand his desire to not condemn all Muslims for the act of one. I wouldn't suggest we condemn them all, either. But I'm not sure those words were appropriate for the situation.

Imagine hearing MacArthur saying “we shouldn't condemn all Japanese because of the acts of a few” after we learned the horrors of the Bataan Death March. Perhaps its long past time to start putting more focus on Muslims and stop treating everyone in the US like a potential terrorist when we're boarding an airplane, or buying a gun.

17 posted on 11/10/2009 2:32:39 PM PST by RavenATB
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To: Aria
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/6712102.html

This article may be helpful in understanding the timeline of events. There is some info here I'd not seen before.

FYI.

Regarding Gen Casey, I can't speak to the man's motivation or sympathies. I understand his desire to not condemn all Muslims for the act of one. I wouldn't suggest we condemn them all, either. But I'm not sure those words were appropriate for the situation.

Imagine hearing MacArthur saying “we shouldn't condemn all Japanese because of the acts of a few” after we learned the horrors of the Bataan Death March. Perhaps its long past time to start putting more focus on Muslims and stop treating everyone in the US like a potential terrorist when we're boarding an airplane, or buying a gun.

18 posted on 11/10/2009 2:32:44 PM PST by RavenATB
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To: AJKauf
...“organizations espousing supremacist causes,” namely racist and neo-Nazi groups, notwithstanding the religious trappings that those groups have adopted to cloak their ideology.

The only "supremacist" organization represented to any degree in the military today is Islam. There are undoubtedly individuals with a racist bent, but my guess is that as many of them are hate whitey guys as are potential KKKlukkkers.

19 posted on 11/11/2009 6:03:28 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., hot enough down there today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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