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Time to Put An End to Army Bases as Gun-Free Zones
Fox News ^ | November 10, 2009 | John R. Lott Jr.

Posted on 11/10/2009 7:44:41 PM PST by JohnRLott

Shouldn't an army base be the last place where a terrorist should be able to shoot at people uninterrupted for 10 minutes? After all, an army base is filled with soldiers who carry guns, right? Unfortunately, that is not the case. Beginning in March 1993, under the Clinton administration, the army forbids military personnel from carrying their own personal firearms and mandates that "a credible and specific threat against [Department of the Army] personnel [exist] in that region" before military personnel "may be authorized to carry firearms for personal protection." Indeed, most military bases have relatively few military police as they are in heavy demand to serve in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The unarmed soldiers could do little more than cower as Major Nidal Malik Hasan stood on a desk and shot down into the cubicles in which his victims were trapped. Some behaved heroically, such as private first class Marquest Smith who repeatedly risked his life removing five soldiers and a civilian from the carnage. But, being unarmed, these soldiers were unable to stop Hasan's attack.

The wife of one of the soldiers shot at Ft. Hood understood this all too well. . . . .

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1 posted on 11/10/2009 7:44:42 PM PST by JohnRLott
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To: JohnRLott

Exactly! We need to push the GOP and NRA-ILA to fight for CCW’s on all military bases. Our troops are sitting ducks with thiese islamo sleepers.

This scum knew our soldiers were unarmed.


2 posted on 11/10/2009 7:46:23 PM PST by Frantzie (Judge David Carter - democrat & dishonorable Marine like John Murtha.)
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To: JohnRLott

I think it is absolutely crazy, in this day and age, that our millitary are unarmed in their bases.

Times are different now. The enemy can be hidden among them, as recently shown.


3 posted on 11/10/2009 7:46:39 PM PST by diamond6 (Expose Planned Parenthood: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYaTywSDmls)
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To: JohnRLott

Don’t you think it makes sense to have a different weapons policy for a military base than for a Junior High School?


4 posted on 11/10/2009 7:46:42 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: JohnRLott

I believe that the thought is covered by the Second Amendment as it was writen and that all persons, military or not, provided they are citizens in good standing, should be allowed to carry. Open or concealed.

B Cool,


5 posted on 11/10/2009 7:49:06 PM PST by b cool
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To: b cool

CCW - all places, all the time!


6 posted on 11/10/2009 7:56:25 PM PST by 2harddrive
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To: Natural Law

He would have been cut down if the soldiers were carrying.


7 posted on 11/10/2009 7:58:23 PM PST by brwnsuga (Not a Slave!)
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To: b cool

it’s an absolute bullsh*t policy. Troops cannot even wear earphones while jogging on our post out of concern for “safety”.

It is against policy to conceal carry private weapons when in military uniform. It’s a skewed liability policy that endangers it’s own personnel when they leave the “safety” of the base and head home. Yet we are required to attend yearly Force Protection/Anti-Terrorism Training to make sure we are aware of how to recognize threats (before they kill us because we are unarmed).


8 posted on 11/10/2009 8:01:59 PM PST by Pavegunner72
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To: JohnRLott

Interesting, Clinton didn’t want to get his rear-end shot off. The same way he placed restriction on speech fearing someone would shot their mouth off. Remember, UCMJ Article 88, DOD Directives which were used to prevent speech when some military personnel sent emails containing information/material deemed offensive about Clinton and Monica Lewinsky…Seems liberals don’t like speech being free when they’re in power.


9 posted on 11/10/2009 8:04:02 PM PST by ntmxx (I am not so sure about this misdirection!)
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To: JohnRLott
Guns don't kill people.

jihadists kill people.

Cheers!

10 posted on 11/10/2009 8:04:45 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: b cool

Right to carry is right to carry a right that fades with each passing day.


11 posted on 11/10/2009 8:06:17 PM PST by GILTN1stborn
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To: JohnRLott

it just hurts the brain


12 posted on 11/10/2009 8:06:20 PM PST by sten
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13 posted on 11/10/2009 8:14:05 PM PST by devolve ( . "I would caution you against jumping to conclusions!" - Barack Hasan Osama Junior - mmm mmm mmm)
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To: JohnRLott

ABOUT DARN TIME!


14 posted on 11/10/2009 8:14:33 PM PST by JSDude1 (www.wethepeopleindiana.org (Tea Party Member-Proud), www.travishankins.com (R- IN 09 2010!))
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To: JohnRLott
But, being unarmed, these soldiers were unable to stop Hasan's attack.

They didn't even have a taser or pepper spray. How lame can you get.

15 posted on 11/10/2009 8:29:10 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America.)
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To: JohnRLott

What military bases need to be is MISLIM Free Zones!


16 posted on 11/10/2009 8:36:45 PM PST by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: JohnRLott
Sorry but this is just crap. The Military has been anti-gun long before Clitoon.
17 posted on 11/10/2009 8:41:56 PM PST by BBell
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To: brwnsuga
We had soldiers awaiting processing for their 3rd combat tour taking casualties while awaiting the arrival of a couple of civilian cops (one old and one female). Meanwhile, all you have to do is hope a politician catches H1N1 and you get a visit from the Secret Service.
18 posted on 11/10/2009 8:46:36 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: BBell

Yes, from all I’ve heard the disarming began many years before 1993. Was it under Carter?


19 posted on 11/10/2009 9:07:20 PM PST by Captain Kirk
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To: diamond6

Times are different now. The enemy can be hidden among them, as recently shown.

it seems they already are


20 posted on 11/10/2009 10:06:12 PM PST by 1st Division guy
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To: JohnRLott

As always, turn over a slimy rock and there is a Clinton under it.


21 posted on 11/10/2009 10:08:04 PM PST by pankot
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To: 2harddrive; All
CCW - all places, all the time!

Big +1!

Thomas Jefferson: "The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
22 posted on 11/11/2009 6:29:39 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Obama, Hitler, Stalin: Who are 3 people nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.)
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To: Red in Blue PA; All

Thomas Jefferson: “The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed.”

James Madison: “Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” (Federalist Paper #46)

Samual Adams: “The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms.” (Convention of the Commonwealth of Mass., 86-87, date still being sought)

John F. Kennedy: “Today, we need a nation of Minutemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom.”


23 posted on 11/11/2009 6:34:57 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Obama, Hitler, Stalin: Who are 3 people nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.)
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