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Uh-oh: Jon Stewart catches Fox News’ creative editing
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/11/11/uh-oh-jon-stewart-catches-fox-news-creative-editing/ ^

Posted on 11/12/2009 7:42:33 AM PST by chessplayer

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To: fortheDeclaration

Oh, please...


51 posted on 11/12/2009 9:48:49 AM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: chessplayer

I’m a firm believer that watching *any* of the cable news networks will make one more stupid, not less.


52 posted on 11/12/2009 10:19:44 AM PST by gdani (I just want to be left on this block of ice...)
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To: Gargantua
Now, because I think that it's both silly and pointless to make a mountain out of the molehill of some file footage run on the Hannity talk show (when the title of the article falsely claimed to have caught "FOX NEWS" in a deceit!), you wish to imply that I have no integrity!?

Let's look at the fact (I know you hate to look at the facts; when it's so much more fun to attack the messenger). The fact is that footage from one event, was falsely presented to the public as being tied to a different event. That is a fact, it's easily verified.

I'm not the one who is defending a lie, you are. You are not only defending a lie; you are attacking a person who is denouncing the lie.

Isn't the policy of attacking the messenger the first play in the Democratic rule book? If you can't defend the message; attack the messenger, right? I don't have to imply that you have no integrity - you outright state that in each of your posts.

Now, you are obviously not a very smart person. A person with a dim intellect thinks that attacking a person wins an arguement, so in the interest of trying to enlighten a troll; I have taken the effort to look up the word 'Integrity' for you; it has 3 syllables, so you probably can't say it without moving your mouth.

in⋅teg⋅ri⋅ty  /ɪnˈtɛgrɪti/
–noun
1. adherence to moral and ethical principles; soundness of moral character; honesty.
2. the state of being whole, entire, or undiminished: to preserve the integrity of the empire.
3. a sound, unimpaired, or perfect condition: the integrity of a ship's hull.

So, without asking someone else, can you guess which of these definitions applies? Somehow, I doubt it. Do I need to look up the definition of 'honesty' for you too?

53 posted on 11/12/2009 10:58:23 AM PST by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Deb

So a lie is only important in it’s magnitude? “Their” lies were bigger, so ‘our’ lies don’t matter?

Golly, call me old-fashioned; but I would really rather hear the truth, without fabrication. Just because other people chose to tell lies, is not justification for Fox to do the same.


54 posted on 11/12/2009 11:01:28 AM PST by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
SPlicing is an inaccurate word to use here. They pulled the wrong file footage, so they SHOWED 9/12 while they talked about last Thursday’s rally. When it was discovered, they apologized. There was no active intent to “splice in” inaccurate footage.

If it was, in fact, just an error, and not deliberate, then it is excusable.

55 posted on 11/12/2009 11:11:55 AM PST by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: chessplayer

These things happen all the time. Photos and videos are often mistakenly mis-labelled. ONLY when it is Beck or Fox or Hannity or conservatives is it treated as some nefarious plot.


56 posted on 11/12/2009 11:12:46 AM PST by PghBaldy (James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed Martin Luther King Jr.)
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To: Izzy Dunne
Trying to inflate the crowd size.

Bachmann's crowd was in excess of 12,000. There is no need to exaggerate.

Someone needs to be fired.

57 posted on 11/12/2009 11:18:32 AM PST by skeeter
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To: chessplayer

Figures the self admitted fake newz guy is in the same sentence as fudge...


58 posted on 11/12/2009 11:20:31 AM PST by abc1
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To: Hodar
Your "fact" is presented here in an article the title of which calims to have caught "FOX NEWS" in an act of deceit.

The Hannity Show does not present it's nightly footage to FOX NEWS for approval. FOX NEWS has its programming, and Hannity has its programming. They are both separate entities.

While it is indisputable that Hannity's show ran the wrong file footage on the Bachman piece (and both acknowledged and apologized for the error), it is also indisputable that the title of this article and Jon Stupid's skit lays upon the doorstep of FOX NEWS the culpability for airing footage that FOX NEWS had no hand in selecting or airing.

It is an obvious and despicable, integrity devoid ploy to illegitimately smear FOX NEWS as being untrustworthy as a news source-- because of something Sean Hannity aired on his show. If you had to guess, which of the following is more important to this nation's current plight and shaky future? Whether Hannity erred on purpose, or whether FOX NEWS can be trusted?

Your playing along, by focusing on the idiotic film clip snafu, allows the scum trying to falsely smear FOX NEWS to get away with it unchallenged.

Where, praytell, is the integrity in that?

;-/

59 posted on 11/12/2009 2:48:24 PM PST by Gargantua (Palin / Bachmann 2012... because Pa-Bach's a BITCH!)
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To: Hodar
Where, praytell, is the integrity or honesty in that?

Why the delay? Checking your dictionary (again!)?

:-)

60 posted on 11/12/2009 5:16:13 PM PST by Gargantua (Palin / Bachmann 2012... because Pa-Bach's a BITCH!)
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To: Hodar
Here are some insights into the obtuse, "holier-than-thou" Hodar... straight from his profile page, and by his own hand...

...it explains alot.

"... Religious fanatics, on the other hand, believe that their actions are inherently 'good', even as they trample the rights, dignity and lives of those they wish to 'save'."

"I have little use for the self-religious. If you cannot defend an idea without resorting to religion, and/or your interpretation of scriptures; you are a either simply stupid or gullible, either way, devoid of individual thought. For each of us has our own religion, and interpretations; Buddhist, Muslim, Atheist, Christian, Jewish, Wicca and Satanic are all equal under the laws of the land."

'Nuff said. Typical knee-jerk atheist, sets himself up as God... so we all best listen, huh? Interestingly, almost every gay person I have ever known has said basically these same things about people of The Christian Faith.

Hody's problem is that the Law of the Land also states that it is illegal to prevent someone from practicing the tenets of their faith. And if my faith states that I must spread the good news of Jesus Christ, and proclaim Him as The One True Path To God..., well, poor Hody loses that round.

;-/

61 posted on 11/12/2009 5:28:46 PM PST by Gargantua (Palin / Bachmann 2012... because Pa-Bach's a BITCH!)
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To: Hodar
Here are some insights into the obtuse, "holier-than-thou" Hodar... straight from his profile page, and by his own hand...

...it explains alot.

"... Religious fanatics, on the other hand, believe that their actions are inherently 'good', even as they trample the rights, dignity and lives of those they wish to 'save'."

"I have little use for the self-religious. If you cannot defend an idea without resorting to religion, and/or your interpretation of scriptures; you are a either simply stupid or gullible, either way, devoid of individual thought. For each of us has our own religion, and interpretations; Buddhist, Muslim, Atheist, Christian, Jewish, Wicca and Satanic are all equal under the laws of the land."

'Nuff said. Typical knee-jerk atheist, sets himself up as God... so we all best listen, huh? Interestingly, almost every gay person I have ever known has said basically these same things about people of The Christian Faith.

Hody's problem is that the Law of the Land also states that it is illegal to prevent someone from practicing the tenets of their faith. And if my faith states that I must spread the good news of Jesus Christ, and proclaim Him as The One True Path To God..., well, poor Hody loses that round.

;-/

62 posted on 11/12/2009 5:28:51 PM PST by Gargantua (Palin / Bachmann 2012... because Pa-Bach's a BITCH!)
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To: Gargantua

There you go again, like a child.

If you can’t defend the message; attack the messenger. Apparently you never tire of making a fool out of yourself.

A lie is a lie; dishonesty is dishonesty. No matter how you try to rationalize this, you are acting like a pre-pubescent little girl. Now run along and go cry to momma; you failed in your attempt to defend the indefensible; you failed to make a single point - so now all you have left is a pitiful attempt to attack me.

So, go call Marsha and Tiffany and cry about how that big mean Hodar told you that you were a troll, and how you demonstrated that point by attacking him. Cry about how you don’t know the difference between fraud and the truth; and if ‘your’ side lies, well, that’s ok.

But, most of all - grow up. Look up books on maturity, I’m sure that there are a bunch of them on Amazon. Someday you may grow up to be a Big Girl - and will understand that when you discuss the topic, you discuss the topic. You don’t attack the opposite side in a personal manner (I know you would have no understanding of the agreement you approved of when you opened your account on FR - given your lack of maturity I’m sure you just clicked through it).

I’m also sure you have no idea what that italics print below that says “Please: NO profanity, NO personal attacks, NO racism or violence in posts. Perhaps you should have Mommy read that part out to you aloud, then sit down and explain what that means while she smooths the wrinkles out of your frilly little dress.

Sean Hannity LIED when he presented a video that had segments shot at the 9/12 protest. I think he should be fired, because he besmirched the reputation of FoxNews (that is the CHANNEL he is on - in case you missed the logo in the lower left hand corner of your tv screen). So far, you’ve told me I “need to grow a brain” and you think you know anything about me.

He guess what little Girlie? I’m far from an athiest, about as far as you can get. I simply believe that YOUR intpretation of your faith should not prevent me in the free exercist of my faith. But, I guess I used words with more than 2 syllables and that got you confused.

Now run along, I’m tired of laughing at you - and no one is a blind as the fool who will not see.


63 posted on 11/13/2009 10:10:27 AM PST by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Gargantua
Still attacking me? Wow, such misguided enthusiasm, and such an astute spell-checker too. My, my, my ...

But wasn't the whole debate about my condemnation of a lie; and your defense of it? You have no problem defending a Conservative cause when it is caught extolling fraud as the truth. Now the Democrats do this with wild abandon; I simply believe that Conservatives should be held to a higher standard.

So, keep on flaming me; you see, I'm not afraid to speak the truth - you hide from it and attack me.

65 posted on 11/15/2009 11:22:52 AM PST by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Gargantua
The Hannity Show does not present it's nightly footage to FOX NEWS for approval. FOX NEWS has its programming, and Hannity has its programming. They are both separate entities.

If you look at the lower right hand of the screen, or check your TV listing - you will find that Hannity is on the FoxNews channel; and as such anything he says on that network - reflects on the network.

Conside the New York Times, not too long ago they had a reporter who 'made up stories'; he has since been fired, but because the New York Times endorsed him as a journalist (ie. he worked for the NYT, and publised in the NYT) - the NYT is ultimately responsible for the content their journalists report. The man was fired, but the NTY took the bloody nose; as now everyone questions every story that appears in the NYT.

So, what do you not understand about a News organization maintaining and fiercely defending their integrity?

66 posted on 11/15/2009 11:28:58 AM PST by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Hodar
"Conside the New York Times, not too long ago they had a reporter who 'made up stories'"

Okay, Hody, how does one "conside" the NYTimes? Did their reporter make up words, too? You take 3 days to write a reply, and you STILL screw it up with non-existent words!!!!

Oh, and THANK YOU! You just won me $25! LMFWAO!!!

67 posted on 11/15/2009 12:54:20 PM PST by Gargantua ("Hodar" in Lithuanian means "anus")
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To: Hodar
Right. So Hannity makes one mistake, admits it and apologizes, but it's still the end of the world for both him and FOX NEWS (according to you)...

...but you screw up 8 out of 10 times, and we're still supposed to give anything you say even an ounce of credibility? Walk away, crease-munch. You hypocrisy is outpaced only by your inability to spell or think right. You feign integrity, honesty, and fair-play, yet you suck like a black-hole at all of them. Piss off, wasteoid.

;-/

68 posted on 11/15/2009 1:06:04 PM PST by Gargantua ("Hodar" in Lithuanian means "anus")
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To: Gargantua
You take 3 days to write a reply, and you STILL screw it up with non-existent words!!!!

To an immature ego, with obviously limited intellect and even less education - this may come as a complete shock to you - but I don't work for you. I don't take orders from you, and most of all - I really don't respect you. I'll respond if, and when it's convenient to me; you aren't really worth my time, to put it honestly

You see, your mommy was right - I doubt you will amount to much, and if you don't grow up you will doubt you will have a boyfriend of much merit.

You see, on FR one comes to debate topics - you have failed to notice this. You apprently do not appreciate the idea of debating concepts, it's a mature concept you have yet to learn to appreciate. To you, a debate is nothing but a shouting match, where you think you can bully a point across by nit-picking and deflecting, truly a cowards way out of an arguement. If you can't intellectually match the concept - like a Democrat, you consistently attack the person. Then you brag yourself up, inflating your ego by announcing to yourself that everyone is such a big fan, that they really care whether you post, or run and cry in a corner.

Instead of debating facts, or presenting a point of view - you have taken the 'oh-so-wise' approach of being a little spell checker. What's amatter? Does your poor little head get hurt when you think in concepts? No, but boy - you sure love to grammer check - Wow ... you must be a huge hit with the boys.

As evidence of this, think of the maturity it took to announce that $25 that you allegedly won; however like pretty much everything else you have said - it's just bloviating. I think that anyone who knows you, would be a little bit embarassed for you. I doubt anyone really cares enough to talk to you, because you have the intellectual capacity lower than most of my Grandkids. So, when I state that you are not very inteligent, very immature, uneducated and somehow think you the intellectual equivalent of just about any newbie on this board - you are sadly mistaken.

69 posted on 11/16/2009 5:54:01 AM PST by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Gargantua
Right. So Hannity makes one mistake, admits it and apologizes, but it's still the end of the world for both him and FOX NEWS (according to you)...

Finally, after a dozen posts attacking me - yet you just can't seem to manage that with the second paragraph.

When a person sits down and edits a tape, this is a well thought out process - I doubt you've done so much as a book report - but for the rest of us who do presentations, we know exactly what we are doing. We gather data, we make outlines, we put together supporting material.

Hannity sat down and said "Golly, I don't have enough material to make a convincing case - so I will have to fabricate it". Now in a News organization, there are stock film, and there are film shots taken from specific protests. If he grabs a protest from 2004 and presents it as 2009, that is fraud. It is pre-mediated (he thought of it, knew what he was doing, knew it was dishonest - yet did it anyway). This time, he got caught. So, my first question when I catch a liar is "Is this the first time he lied to me?" And when I get the next news release from this person, I will again ask myself "Is he lying now?".

A credable news source never has that question asked - by virtue of being credable, it is assumed that whatever they announce is the truth. That credability is now in question, thanks to Hannity and his fraud. He needs to step down, his credability is now in question.

Oh, and in case you didn't understand earlier - you are the big talking, loud-mouth that walked in and started callign people names; and that is really all that you have done. I have yet to see you take up anything of merit, but you have managed to get your posts taken down by the moderator. So, keep it up and get yourself banned. But, unlike you, I don't walk away from bullies - I call themn the craven cowards they are, I tell them to their face that they are intellectually inferior, I tell them that they have no moral compass, and then stand in wonder as they get all frustrated and can think of nothing else to do but scream and curse online. You do not intimadate me, you are too pathetic both online; and somehow I think you are even more miserable in real life.

You see, the big boys respect strength and intelligence. All you have managed, is to call names - and not even very creative ones at that - you have yet to bring up a single substantive point. Are you sure you belong on FR? I think with the emotional vitrol you are throwing around, you would be far happier on DU or DailyKOS.

70 posted on 11/16/2009 6:09:01 AM PST by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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