Posted on 11/12/2009 8:08:40 AM PST by pabianice
Pelosi On Jail Time For No Health Care: "The Legislation Is Very Fair In This Respect"
KOMO-TV: Do you think it’s fair to send people to jail who don’t buy health insurance? Pelosi: .. "the legislation is very fair in this respect."
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There is the Senate - then there is the Supreme Court. After that we are out of options.
Unconstitutional.
This witch should be in prison, for life.
If not prison, a mental institution for sure.
Since Pelosi won’t pay for health insurance under this law, send her to jail first.
Tyranny is fair in the world of the totalitarian.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus
Hmm. I’d prefer to see jail time for treasonous fascists who try to force unConstitutional legislation down the throat of the US citizens. How about that, Nancy?
if it is so fair, why not just do it now and spare us the health bill
I really believe that the botox has affected her brain.
There is one more option. But the passing of 150 years seems to have removed the strength to do it from our DNA.
so if you cannot afford it you go to debtors jail?
Thought we got rid of those.
The list, ping
Have you ever heard the word “nullification”? Are you aware of the history of the Fugitive slave act or the Alien and Sedition act? Are you familiar with the Kentucky and Virginia Resolutions of 1798? We’ve got a number of options left to us. Will we use them or will we just shrug under the chains?
Pelosi hates America and hates Americans.
The ACLU and the millions of elite liberal lawyers are not saying anything about this proposed fascist act.
There's the Supreme Court for the Constitutionality of mandates and jail time.
Then there's the Supreme Court for the 10th Amendment.
What’s not fair to Americans is that we’re being ruled, decisions are made for us by these twits who are supposedly representing one small congressional district. Instead of doing this they are making laws upon laws to bury us in a dreary, hateful communist world that will eventually rival the old Soviet Union.
Just consider this:
The Democratic Party (or the Communist Party, or the Party of Death) has become the Lawyers’ Party.
Barack Obama is a lawyer.
Michelle Obama is a lawyer.
Hillary Clinton is a lawyer.
Bill Clinton is a lawyer.
John Edwards is a lawyer. ;
Elizabeth Edwards is a lawyer.
Every Democrat nominee since 1984 went to law school (although Gore did not graduate).
Every Democrat vice presidential nominee since 1976, except for Lloyd Bentsen, went to law school.
Look at leaders of the Democrat Party in Congress:
Harry Reid is a lawyer.
Nancy Pelosi is a lawyer.
The Republican Party is different.
President Bush is a businessman.
Vice President Cheney is a businessman.
The leaders of the Republican Revolution:
Newt Gingrich was a history professor.
Tom Delay was an exterminator. Dick Armey was an economist.
House Minority Leader Boehner was a plastic manufacturer.
The former Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist is a heart surgeon.
Who was the last Republican president who was a lawyer? Gerald Ford, who left office 31 years ago and who barely won the Republican nomination as a sitting president, running against Ronald Reagan in 1976. The Republican Party is made up of real people doing real work, who are often the targets of lawyers.
The Democrat Party is made up of lawyers. Democrats mock and scorn men who create wealth, like Bush and Cheney, or who heal the sick, like Frist, or who immerse themselves in history, like Gingrich.
The Lawyers’ Party sees these sorts of people, who provide goods and services that people want, as the enemies of America. And, so we have seen the procession of official enemies, in the eyes of the Lawyers’ Party, grow.
Aga inst whom do Hillary and Obama rail? Pharmaceutical companies, oil companies, hospitals, manufacturers, fast food restaurant chains, large retail businesses, bankers, and anyone producing anything of value in our nation.
This is the natural consequence of viewing everything through the eyes of lawyers. Lawyers solve problems by successfully representing their clients, in this case the American people. Lawyers seek to have new laws passed, they seek to win lawsuits, they press appellate courts to overturn precedent, and lawyers always parse language to favor their side.
Confined to the narrow practice of law, that is fine. But it is an awful way to govern a great nation. When politicians as lawyers begin to view some Americans as clients and other Americans as opposing parties, then the role of the leg al system in our life becomes all-consuming. Some Americans become “adverse parties” of our very government. We are not all litigants in some vast social class-action suit. We are citizens of a republic that promises us a great deal of freedom from laws, from courts, and from lawyers.
Today, we are drowning in laws; we are contorted by judicial decisions; we are driven to distraction by omnipresent lawyers in all parts of our once private lives. America has a place for laws and lawyers, but that place is modest and reasonable, not vast and unchecked. When the most important decision for our next president is whom he will appoint to the Supreme Court, the role of lawyers and the law in America is too big. When lawyers use criminal prosecution as a continuation of politics by other means, as happened in the lynching of Scooter Libby and Tom Delay, then the power of lawyers in America is too great. When House Democrats sue America in order to hamstring our efforts to learn what our enemies are planning to do to us, then the role of litigation in America has become crushing.
We cannot expect the Lawyers’ Party to provide real change, real reform or real hope in America Most Americans know that a republic in which every major government action must be blessed by nine unelected judges is not what Washington intended in 1789. Most Americans grasp that we cannot fight a war when ACLU lawsuits snap at the heels of our defenders. Most Americans intuit that more lawyers and judges will not restore declining moral values or spark the spirit of enterprise in our economy..
Perhaps Americans will understand that change cannot be brought to our nation by those lawyers who already largely dictate American society and business. Perhaps Americans will see that hope does not come from the mouths of lawyers but from personal dreams nourished by hard work. Perhaps Americans will embrace the truth that more lawyers with more power will only make our problems worse.
The United States has 5% of the world’s population and 66% of the world’s lawyers! Tort (Legal) reform legislation has been introduced in congress several times in the last several years to limit punitive damages in ridiculous lawsuits such as “spilling hot coffee on yourself and suing the establishment that sold it to you” and also to limit punitive damages in huge medical malpractice lawsuits. This legislation has continually been blocked from even being voted on by the Democrat Party. When you see that 97% of the political contributions from the American Trial Lawyers Association goes to the Democrat Party, then you realize who is responsible for our medical and product costs being so high!
she has literally lost her mind — to the extent she ever had one. I have suspected as much for quite a while, but this cinches the deal.
I’ve heard this before:
Death to the kulaks! All power to the workers soviets! Peasants; to the kolkhoz!
And we were raised in the naive belief it could only happen here if we were conquered by the legions of Lenin. Who knew that instead of them storming our shores with guns and tanks, we would elect them into positions of power ourselves?
Justice is supposed to be blind, NOT FAIR.
We still have civil disobedience and then finally the second amendment. Remember its “consent of the governed.”
Whether or not citizens go those routes remains to be seen.
They're alive and well. Ever heard of child support?
>KOMO-TV: Do you think it’s fair to send people to jail who don’t buy health insurance? Pelosi: .. “the legislation is very fair in this respect.”
Q: Do you think it’s lawful to violently defend your freedom from a government obsessed with controlling your very life?
A: I think the Declaration of Independence provides all the legal Justification for overthrowing such tyranny here in the US.
Run for your state legislature. If you can’t find someone who will and is willing to say no to the federal government. This must be done.
We really need to help her opponent with campaign contributions in 2010. $10 here, $20 there, and pretty soon her Repub opponent has some money to battle the Queen.
So, unconstitutionally passing a law that requires people to buy that which they do not want and have decided that they do not need is “fair”. Those who voted for this bill that do not have the decency to resign need to be thrown out next year.
Debtors Prison anyone?
FAIR!!!???? We’re going to clog up the already overcrowded jails (renamed health gulags) with people who will have done nothing “wrong” other than not opt into Marxist health care slavery? Isn’t that overkill?
Are they proposing to release all the Bar Abbases out into the streets?
Pelosi is so full of crap ... she is attempting to justify the jail term for NOT getting health insurance because those without health insurance push their costs on to others ...
Hey, Nancy, that is what illegal aliens have been doing for years, and you assholes in congress want to REWARD them, not just for sneaking into the country illegally, but for passing all their expenses (education, health care, etc.) on to taxpayers, while you send taxpayers to jail for not paying more taxes.
Sick of this government and everyone associated with it.
Great post. I may need to email that to some folks.
It’s time for Valkyrie II
(non-violent or course)
Demystifying the ACLU’s policies:
“If it serves to undermine the traditional values of Western Culture, we side with it.”
Are they going to use those in the Health Gulags for experimentation like Nazi Germany? Are they going to work for the “New” auto industry?
Nancy is insane.
Question: What happens to Christian Scientists and others who believe in prayer over medicine?
Massachusetts nullified the Fugitive Slave act by saying anyone coming into the state to enforce it would be arrested for kidnapping under Massachusetts law.
The Kentucky and Virginia Resolutions of 1798, along with others from other states and from Kentucky in 1799, were a response to the Alien and Sedition Acts. They wanted to secede then. They were persuaded to work through the process to repeal the laws. Jefferson pardon and paid restitution to those imprisoned under the acts when he was president.
We have options. People need to get involved, and fast, in their states. The states have to start providing a bulwark against the tyranny of this national government or we are going to see some very dark times.
Essentially, democrats are fascists.
I voted convict her of treason and then hang her.
voted=vote
Says you.
So ... how long does everyone think it will take after this goes into effect for some patriot to defend himself through the use of arms in his own home when they come to get him????
That's a battle I would love to bring before the Supreme Court, if only to determine once and for all that such a reading of that clause does violence to the rest of the document. It cannot be as open-ended as Congress has routinely read it, otherwise, what was the purpose of the frequent enumeration and delineation of powers throughout the Constitution? The Founders never intended this clause to be a "blank check", but rather a guideline naturally subject to all of the numerous limitations that followed.
Additionally, and as an expression of Federalism, state governments can and do mandate certain types of insurance coverage, but only to the extent that their own state constitutions allow it. The Federal government has no such power.
Wow.
Fantastic!
She should be jailed for sedition!
Besides congress which exempted themselves there is also the “other” privileged class — illegal aliens who will see no jail for not buying insurance but who will have it paid for by the rest of us.
What would really be “fair” would be for her to take a flying leap from a very high place.
To a totalitarian collectivist-statist like Nazi Pelousy, imprisoning and even humiliating, torturing, and executing counter-revolutionaries is always fair.
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