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ACORN says US funding cut was unconstitutional (lawsuit filed on ACORN’s behalf in Brooklyn)
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| 11/12/09
| AP
Posted on 11/12/2009 12:09:02 PM PST by NormsRevenge
NEW YORK ACORN has filed a lawsuit claiming that Congress violated the Constitution when it passed a law cutting off federal funding to the organization.
The Center for Constitutional Rights filed the lawsuit on ACORN's behalf Thursday in Brooklyn federal court. It claims the law was unconstitutional because it punitively targeted an individual organization.
Messages for comment left at the White House and the federal agencies named in the suit were not immediately returned.
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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; acorn; coi; constitution; corruption; cultureofcorruption; democratscandals; fraud; funding; gimmegimmegimme; unconstitutional
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To: NormsRevenge
ACORN is unconstitutional.
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posted on
11/12/2009 12:10:07 PM PST
by
JoeMac
("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!'' Popeye The SailorMan)
To: NormsRevenge
It seems they are implying that ACORN has a constitutional right to federal tax money?
To: NormsRevenge
They got this a little backwards. Funding was Un-Constitutional to begin with. Cutting funding is just enforcing the Constitution.
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posted on
11/12/2009 12:10:29 PM PST
by
RC2
To: NormsRevenge
Suddenly, ACORN becomes aware of the US Constitution.
5
posted on
11/12/2009 12:11:24 PM PST
by
E. Pluribus Unum
(Ask not what the Kennedys can do for you, but what you can do for the Kennedys.)
To: NormsRevenge
I believe that these guys who work for the Center for Constitutional Rights....need to go back and actually study Constitutional rights.
To: St. Louis Conservative
That is EXACTLY what they are claiming.
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posted on
11/12/2009 12:12:09 PM PST
by
piytar
(Go Away NRC, Steele, Graham, and the rest of the lib-loser GOP. WE'RE TAKING OUR PARTY BACK!)
To: RC2
And being unconstitutional, when does acorn start paying the country back.
8
posted on
11/12/2009 12:12:13 PM PST
by
DonaldC
(A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
To: NormsRevenge
How was the funding in the first place Constitutional?
9
posted on
11/12/2009 12:12:20 PM PST
by
mnehring
To: NormsRevenge
10
posted on
11/12/2009 12:12:20 PM PST
by
Dallas59
(No To O -Time is going by really really really really slow.)
To: NormsRevenge
11
posted on
11/12/2009 12:12:48 PM PST
by
Scotsman will be Free
(11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
To: NormsRevenge
No. Funding them in the FIRST place was un-Constitutional.
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posted on
11/12/2009 12:13:14 PM PST
by
WayneS
(Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
To: NormsRevenge
Is not the government funding of a private, partisan organization with taxpayer money unconstitutional?
13
posted on
11/12/2009 12:14:08 PM PST
by
SoldierDad
(Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier whose wife is expecting twins SONS.)
To: NormsRevenge
ACORN has constitutional right to funding? lol!
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posted on
11/12/2009 12:14:27 PM PST
by
luvbach1
(Worse than we could have imagined.)
To: Scotsman will be Free
They who trample the Constitution now want to pick it up and dust it off in their favor...
To: WayneS
definition of “Bill of Attainder”:
“These clauses of the Constitution are not of the broad, general nature of the Due Process Clause, but refer to rather precise legal terms which had a meaning under English law at the time the Constitution was adopted. A bill of attainder was a legislative act that singled out one or more persons and imposed punishment on them, without benefit of trial. Such actions were regarded as odious by the framers of the Constitution because it was the traditional role of a court, judging an individual case, to impose punishment.” William H. Rehnquist.
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posted on
11/12/2009 12:15:12 PM PST
by
fifthvirginia
(keeping their memory green)
To: JoeMac
BINGO! We have a winner.
And it’s on a number of levels, not just one.
Being funded by the government in the first place...
Registering as if an arm of the Democrat party...
Fraudulent Registrations...
Intimidation at the polls...
As free pass on all this...
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posted on
11/12/2009 12:15:18 PM PST
by
DoughtyOne
(Unseal the lock box containing every document pertaining to Obama's life, TODAY!)
To: NormsRevenge
ACORN funding is unconstitutional!
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posted on
11/12/2009 12:16:00 PM PST
by
lonestar
(Obama and his czars have turned Bush's "mess" into a national crisis!)
To: NormsRevenge; JoeMac
It claims the law was unconstitutional because it punitively targeted an individual organization.What was unconstitutional was federal funding of this preferentially targeted individual organization. Eliminating the funding was a corrective measure.
To: NormsRevenge
Where is MY funding from congress acorn? I would like to sit on my lazy fat butt and play politics all day for taxpayer dollars but I have a brain, a conscience and a work ethic.
If you need money then go look under your work boots. You lazy, reparation seeking,
over breeding, racist scumbags have had a free ride for far too long.
Get a job!!!
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posted on
11/12/2009 12:16:27 PM PST
by
soycd
To: NormsRevenge
A well rigged election, being necessary to the security of crooked politicians everywhere, the right of ACORN to your loot, shall not be infringed.
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posted on
11/12/2009 12:18:25 PM PST
by
rhombus
Government sued for defunding scandal-hit ACORN
Reuters
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20091112/pl_nm/us_usa_acorn_1
NEW YORK (Reuters) The scandal-hit liberal grass-roots group ACORN sued the U.S. government on Thursday, saying it did not have the right to cut off ACORN’s federal funding because the group had not been convicted of a crime.
The U.S. Congress voted in September to cut off federal money to the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN), after conservative activists secretly filmed employees in several cities giving tax and housing advice to a couple posing as a pimp and a prostitute.
“It’s not the job of Congress to be the judge, jury, and executioner,” said Jules Lobel, an attorney with the Center for Constitutional Rights, which brought the case in Brooklyn federal court.
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posted on
11/12/2009 12:18:45 PM PST
by
NormsRevenge
(Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. May yur bandwidth exceed your girth)
To: NormsRevenge
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/13/nyregion/13acorn.html?_r=2&partner=rss&emc=rss
In an affidavit attached to the lawsuit, Bertha Lewis, the chief executive of Acorn, said she underestimated the effect of the resolution. It gave the green light for others to terminate our funds as well, she said. All of our state and local grants were frozen, as were most of our private foundation funds.
~snort...giggle...LOL
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posted on
11/12/2009 12:18:46 PM PST
by
Drango
(A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
To: Drango
Actions have consequences, Bertha.
Ya had a helluva ride.
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posted on
11/12/2009 12:20:14 PM PST
by
NormsRevenge
(Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. May yur bandwidth exceed your girth)
To: NormsRevenge
If they are declaring a “bill of attainder” against them, they are barking up the wrong tree. If Congress can send you money, by default Congress can stop sending you money.
To: NormsRevenge
ACORN - the gift that keeps on giving.
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posted on
11/12/2009 12:22:35 PM PST
by
SirAllen
(Atheist: someone who believes that nothing made everything)
To: NormsRevenge
And acorn’s fraud is, er, what? Criminal
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posted on
11/12/2009 12:24:04 PM PST
by
Bitsy
To: NormsRevenge
At least we know that using the 2nd amendment to return liberty isn’t unconstitutional.
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posted on
11/12/2009 12:25:05 PM PST
by
stockpirate
(Obama at 46% approval, how can we have so many stupid people in America?)
To: St. Louis Conservative; piytar
Must have something to do with 0bama’s desire to have “negative rights” in the US Constitution...
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posted on
11/12/2009 12:25:37 PM PST
by
ConservativeMind
(I love it every time a criminal dies at the hands of a victim.)
To: NormsRevenge
The group's CEO, Bertha Lewis, says she underestimated the impact of the Congressional action. She says state, local and most private funds have been cut off as well. And all for no reason -- no reason whatsoever (except for encouragement of prostitution and smuggling of underage illegal sex slaves, but hey, doesn't everybody?)
Poor, poor ACORN. The world is so unjust.
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posted on
11/12/2009 12:26:58 PM PST
by
browardchad
("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
To: NormsRevenge
Imagine that. ACORN and unconstitutional in the same sentence.
Truth revealed.
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posted on
11/12/2009 12:27:22 PM PST
by
Reagan Man
("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
To: NormsRevenge
The pot is calling the kettle blackbad
To: NormsRevenge
It claims the law was unconstitutional because it punitively targeted an individual organization. I actually hope they win this one since our tax code punitively targets our best wealth creators.
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posted on
11/12/2009 12:27:43 PM PST
by
Hoodat
(For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
To: fifthvirginia
I know what a Bill of Attainder is. But in what way does the bill which removed ACORN's federal funding fit that definition? What
punishment does it impose on them?
The answers: The bill in question does NOT impose punishment on ACORN and is therefore NOT a Bill of Attainder. All the bill did was cut ACORN off from tax-payer money. It is tantamount to a budget amendment.
The bill did not try to dissolve ACORN as an organization. Nothing in it prevents ACORN from continuing to operate, nor does it imprison or fine any of ACORN's employees or officers. It in no way imposes punishment on them.
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posted on
11/12/2009 12:29:10 PM PST
by
WayneS
(Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
To: St. Louis Conservative
It seems they are implying that ACORN has a constitutional right to federal tax money?
Sounds about right, just like Piglosi and her minions are claiming that federally funded abortions are a right, and if you don't purchase you insurance policy you go to prison.
When does the civil disobedience commence?
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posted on
11/12/2009 12:29:29 PM PST
by
Cheerio
(Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
To: NormsRevenge
I did a “word search” of the Constitution, and “ACORN” did not appear a single time...case closed.
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posted on
11/12/2009 12:30:33 PM PST
by
FrankR
(To Congress: You cram it down our throats in '09, We'll shove it up your ass in '10!)
To: NormsRevenge
Where in the Constitution does it say ACORN has a right to exist?
To: Drango
To quote Jerry Garcia (out of context): “Bertha don’t you come around here any more...”
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posted on
11/12/2009 12:32:06 PM PST
by
WayneS
(Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
To: NormsRevenge
The Center for Underage Prostitution, Voter Fraud, and Constitutional Law has spoken...

Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.
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posted on
11/12/2009 12:32:17 PM PST
by
The Comedian
(Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
To: Hoodat
If the judge that get this turkey doesn’t throw it right back in their teeth, that’s just one of the many cans of worms that’s going to wind up being opened.
...if the judicial system isn’t totally corrupted now as well. (And don’t even ask my opinion on that.)
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posted on
11/12/2009 12:35:03 PM PST
by
Unrepentant VN Vet
(The so-called Healthcare Bill is no more than legislated Grand Theft and Genocide.)
To: NormsRevenge
Its not the job of Congress to be the judge, jury, and executioner,
Absolutely right. That job is being done by other offices. (You might want to get busy with that shredding.)
What Congress has done is give you a boot-to-the-snout so you can't gorge from the public money-trough any longer.
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posted on
11/12/2009 12:36:22 PM PST
by
LearsFool
("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
To: NormsRevenge
ACORN says lots of stupid stuff.
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posted on
11/12/2009 12:36:44 PM PST
by
SandyInSeattle
(Socialism is the plundering of the productive by the unaccountable)
To: NormsRevenge
“ACORN has filed a lawsuit claiming that Congress violated the Constitution when it passed a law cutting off federal funding to the organization.”
Someone needs to go back to Constitution school. Future Congressional funds are not ACORN’s property; due process is not necessary to deprive them of it. Where the money ends up is entirely contigent upon Congress’ whims (within the bounds of what they’re Constitutionally allowed to do, of course).
To: NormsRevenge
I know how we ALL feel, but is this a Bill of Attainder.
Once the funding was given, was the removal of such a punative / penalty set for one group or person?
This is a LEGAL issue. Don’t let it be an emotional one.
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posted on
11/12/2009 12:38:06 PM PST
by
MindBender26
(Never kick leftists when they're down. Wait till they're half way back up. You get better leverage!)
To: NormsRevenge
The group’s CEO, Bertha Lewis, says she underestimated the impact of the Congressional action. She says state, local and most private funds have been cut off as well.
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posted on
11/12/2009 12:39:51 PM PST
by
ichabod1
( I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet.)
To: NormsRevenge
ACORN has never READ the Constitution. EVER.
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posted on
11/12/2009 12:41:07 PM PST
by
a fool in paradise
(I refuse to "reduce my carbon footprint" all while Lenin remains in an airconditioned shrine)
To: SandyInSeattle
ACORN says lots of stupid stuff. At least if Shelia Jackson Lee ever gets voted out of office, she won't have to go on unemployment.
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posted on
11/12/2009 12:42:54 PM PST
by
a fool in paradise
(I refuse to "reduce my carbon footprint" all while Lenin remains in an airconditioned shrine)
To: NormsRevenge
SCHADENFREUDE!!!
By all means, ACORN loons, cite for me the exact part of the non-living, non-flawed document, the United States Constitution, that states,
"Corrupt Organizations Shall Heretofore Be Entitled To Receiving Billions of American Taxpayer Dollars from the United States Congress, Regardless of Guiltiness in Conducting Illegal Business Dealings With Pimps And Prostitutes, Et Al, in perpetuity"
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!! PULEEZE! :-) :-)
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posted on
11/12/2009 12:43:19 PM PST
by
pillut48
(CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
To: Drango
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posted on
11/12/2009 12:43:48 PM PST
by
ichabod1
( I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet.)
To: Drango
Maybe the PRIVATE FOUNDATIONS decided that they’ve given ENOUGH!
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