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ACORN says US funding cut was unconstitutional (lawsuit filed on ACORN’s behalf in Brooklyn)
AP on Yahoo ^ | 11/12/09 | AP

Posted on 11/12/2009 12:09:02 PM PST by NormsRevenge

NEW YORK – ACORN has filed a lawsuit claiming that Congress violated the Constitution when it passed a law cutting off federal funding to the organization.

The Center for Constitutional Rights filed the lawsuit on ACORN's behalf Thursday in Brooklyn federal court. It claims the law was unconstitutional because it punitively targeted an individual organization.

Messages for comment left at the White House and the federal agencies named in the suit were not immediately returned.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; acorn; coi; constitution; corruption; cultureofcorruption; democratscandals; fraud; funding; gimmegimmegimme; unconstitutional
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1 posted on 11/12/2009 12:09:03 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

ACORN is unconstitutional.


2 posted on 11/12/2009 12:10:07 PM PST by JoeMac ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!'' Popeye The SailorMan)
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To: NormsRevenge

It seems they are implying that ACORN has a constitutional right to federal tax money?


3 posted on 11/12/2009 12:10:18 PM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: NormsRevenge

They got this a little backwards. Funding was Un-Constitutional to begin with. Cutting funding is just enforcing the Constitution.


4 posted on 11/12/2009 12:10:29 PM PST by RC2
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To: NormsRevenge
Suddenly, ACORN becomes aware of the US Constitution.
5 posted on 11/12/2009 12:11:24 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Ask not what the Kennedys can do for you, but what you can do for the Kennedys.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I believe that these guys who work for the Center for Constitutional Rights....need to go back and actually study Constitutional rights.


6 posted on 11/12/2009 12:12:08 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: St. Louis Conservative

That is EXACTLY what they are claiming.


7 posted on 11/12/2009 12:12:09 PM PST by piytar (Go Away NRC, Steele, Graham, and the rest of the lib-loser GOP. WE'RE TAKING OUR PARTY BACK!)
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To: RC2

And being unconstitutional, when does acorn start paying the country back.


8 posted on 11/12/2009 12:12:13 PM PST by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: NormsRevenge

How was the funding in the first place Constitutional?


9 posted on 11/12/2009 12:12:20 PM PST by mnehring
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To: NormsRevenge

Huh?


10 posted on 11/12/2009 12:12:20 PM PST by Dallas59 (No To O -Time is going by really really really really slow.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Talk about irony. LOL!


11 posted on 11/12/2009 12:12:48 PM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: NormsRevenge

No. Funding them in the FIRST place was un-Constitutional.


12 posted on 11/12/2009 12:13:14 PM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: NormsRevenge

Is not the government funding of a private, partisan organization with taxpayer money unconstitutional?


13 posted on 11/12/2009 12:14:08 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier whose wife is expecting twins SONS.)
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To: NormsRevenge

ACORN has constitutional right to funding? lol!


14 posted on 11/12/2009 12:14:27 PM PST by luvbach1 (Worse than we could have imagined.)
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To: Scotsman will be Free

They who trample the Constitution now want to pick it up and dust it off in their favor...


15 posted on 11/12/2009 12:15:12 PM PST by RebelTXRose
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To: WayneS

definition of “Bill of Attainder”:

“These clauses of the Constitution are not of the broad, general nature of the Due Process Clause, but refer to rather precise legal terms which had a meaning under English law at the time the Constitution was adopted. A bill of attainder was a legislative act that singled out one or more persons and imposed punishment on them, without benefit of trial. Such actions were regarded as odious by the framers of the Constitution because it was the traditional role of a court, judging an individual case, to impose punishment.” William H. Rehnquist.


16 posted on 11/12/2009 12:15:12 PM PST by fifthvirginia (keeping their memory green)
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To: JoeMac

BINGO! We have a winner.

And it’s on a number of levels, not just one.

Being funded by the government in the first place...
Registering as if an arm of the Democrat party...
Fraudulent Registrations...
Intimidation at the polls...

As free pass on all this...


17 posted on 11/12/2009 12:15:18 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Unseal the lock box containing every document pertaining to Obama's life, TODAY!)
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To: NormsRevenge

ACORN funding is unconstitutional!


18 posted on 11/12/2009 12:16:00 PM PST by lonestar (Obama and his czars have turned Bush's "mess" into a national crisis!)
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To: NormsRevenge; JoeMac
It claims the law was unconstitutional because it punitively targeted an individual organization.

What was unconstitutional was federal funding of this preferentially targeted individual organization. Eliminating the funding was a corrective measure.

19 posted on 11/12/2009 12:16:06 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: NormsRevenge

Where is MY funding from congress acorn? I would like to sit on my lazy fat butt and play politics all day for taxpayer dollars but I have a brain, a conscience and a work ethic.

If you need money then go look under your work boots. You lazy, reparation seeking,
over breeding, racist scumbags have had a free ride for far too long.

Get a job!!!


20 posted on 11/12/2009 12:16:27 PM PST by soycd
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To: NormsRevenge

A well rigged election, being necessary to the security of crooked politicians everywhere, the right of ACORN to your loot, shall not be infringed.


21 posted on 11/12/2009 12:18:25 PM PST by rhombus
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Government sued for defunding scandal-hit ACORN
Reuters
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20091112/pl_nm/us_usa_acorn_1

NEW YORK (Reuters) – The scandal-hit liberal grass-roots group ACORN sued the U.S. government on Thursday, saying it did not have the right to cut off ACORN’s federal funding because the group had not been convicted of a crime.

The U.S. Congress voted in September to cut off federal money to the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN), after conservative activists secretly filmed employees in several cities giving tax and housing advice to a couple posing as a pimp and a prostitute.

“It’s not the job of Congress to be the judge, jury, and executioner,” said Jules Lobel, an attorney with the Center for Constitutional Rights, which brought the case in Brooklyn federal court.


22 posted on 11/12/2009 12:18:45 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. May yur bandwidth exceed your girth)
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To: NormsRevenge
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/13/nyregion/13acorn.html?_r=2&partner=rss&emc=rss

In an affidavit attached to the lawsuit, Bertha Lewis, the chief executive of Acorn, said she “underestimated” the effect of the resolution. “It gave the green light for others to terminate our funds as well,” she said. “All of our state and local grants were frozen, as were most of our private foundation funds.”

~snort...giggle...LOL

23 posted on 11/12/2009 12:18:46 PM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Drango

Actions have consequences, Bertha.

Ya had a helluva ride.


24 posted on 11/12/2009 12:20:14 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. May yur bandwidth exceed your girth)
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To: NormsRevenge

If they are declaring a “bill of attainder” against them, they are barking up the wrong tree. If Congress can send you money, by default Congress can stop sending you money.


25 posted on 11/12/2009 12:22:09 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: NormsRevenge

ACORN - the gift that keeps on giving.


26 posted on 11/12/2009 12:22:35 PM PST by SirAllen (Atheist: someone who believes that nothing made everything)
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To: NormsRevenge

And acorn’s fraud is, er, what? Criminal


27 posted on 11/12/2009 12:24:04 PM PST by Bitsy
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To: NormsRevenge

At least we know that using the 2nd amendment to return liberty isn’t unconstitutional.


28 posted on 11/12/2009 12:25:05 PM PST by stockpirate (Obama at 46% approval, how can we have so many stupid people in America?)
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To: St. Louis Conservative; piytar

Must have something to do with 0bama’s desire to have “negative rights” in the US Constitution...


29 posted on 11/12/2009 12:25:37 PM PST by ConservativeMind (I love it every time a criminal dies at the hands of a victim.)
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To: NormsRevenge
The group's CEO, Bertha Lewis, says she underestimated the impact of the Congressional action. She says state, local and most private funds have been cut off as well.

And all for no reason -- no reason whatsoever (except for encouragement of prostitution and smuggling of underage illegal sex slaves, but hey, doesn't everybody?)

Poor, poor ACORN. The world is so unjust.

30 posted on 11/12/2009 12:26:58 PM PST by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: NormsRevenge

Imagine that. ACORN and unconstitutional in the same sentence.

Truth revealed.


31 posted on 11/12/2009 12:27:22 PM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: NormsRevenge
The pot is calling the kettle blackbad
32 posted on 11/12/2009 12:27:26 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: NormsRevenge
It claims the law was unconstitutional because it punitively targeted an individual organization.

I actually hope they win this one since our tax code punitively targets our best wealth creators.

33 posted on 11/12/2009 12:27:43 PM PST by Hoodat (For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: fifthvirginia
I know what a Bill of Attainder is. But in what way does the bill which removed ACORN's federal funding fit that definition? What punishment does it impose on them?

The answers: The bill in question does NOT impose punishment on ACORN and is therefore NOT a Bill of Attainder. All the bill did was cut ACORN off from tax-payer money. It is tantamount to a budget amendment.

The bill did not try to dissolve ACORN as an organization. Nothing in it prevents ACORN from continuing to operate, nor does it imprison or fine any of ACORN's employees or officers. It in no way imposes punishment on them.

34 posted on 11/12/2009 12:29:10 PM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: St. Louis Conservative
It seems they are implying that ACORN has a constitutional right to federal tax money?

Sounds about right, just like Piglosi and her minions are claiming that federally funded abortions are a right, and if you don't purchase you insurance policy you go to prison.

When does the civil disobedience commence?
35 posted on 11/12/2009 12:29:29 PM PST by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: NormsRevenge

I did a “word search” of the Constitution, and “ACORN” did not appear a single time...case closed.


36 posted on 11/12/2009 12:30:33 PM PST by FrankR (To Congress: You cram it down our throats in '09, We'll shove it up your ass in '10!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Where in the Constitution does it say ACORN has a right to exist?
37 posted on 11/12/2009 12:31:41 PM PST by Art in Idaho
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To: Drango

To quote Jerry Garcia (out of context): “Bertha don’t you come around here any more...”


38 posted on 11/12/2009 12:32:06 PM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: NormsRevenge
The Center for Underage Prostitution, Voter Fraud, and Constitutional Law has spoken...


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

39 posted on 11/12/2009 12:32:17 PM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: Hoodat

If the judge that get this turkey doesn’t throw it right back in their teeth, that’s just one of the many cans of worms that’s going to wind up being opened.

...if the judicial system isn’t totally corrupted now as well. (And don’t even ask my opinion on that.)


40 posted on 11/12/2009 12:35:03 PM PST by Unrepentant VN Vet (The so-called Healthcare Bill is no more than legislated Grand Theft and Genocide.)
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To: NormsRevenge
“It’s not the job of Congress to be the judge, jury, and executioner,”

Absolutely right. That job is being done by other offices. (You might want to get busy with that shredding.)

What Congress has done is give you a boot-to-the-snout so you can't gorge from the public money-trough any longer.
41 posted on 11/12/2009 12:36:22 PM PST by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: NormsRevenge

ACORN says lots of stupid stuff.


42 posted on 11/12/2009 12:36:44 PM PST by SandyInSeattle (Socialism is the plundering of the productive by the unaccountable)
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To: NormsRevenge

“ACORN has filed a lawsuit claiming that Congress violated the Constitution when it passed a law cutting off federal funding to the organization.”

Someone needs to go back to Constitution school. Future Congressional funds are not ACORN’s property; due process is not necessary to deprive them of it. Where the money ends up is entirely contigent upon Congress’ whims (within the bounds of what they’re Constitutionally allowed to do, of course).


43 posted on 11/12/2009 12:37:19 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: NormsRevenge

I know how we ALL feel, but is this a Bill of Attainder.

Once the funding was given, was the removal of such a punative / penalty set for one group or person?

This is a LEGAL issue. Don’t let it be an emotional one.


44 posted on 11/12/2009 12:38:06 PM PST by MindBender26 (Never kick leftists when they're down. Wait till they're half way back up. You get better leverage!)
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To: NormsRevenge

The group’s CEO, Bertha Lewis, says she underestimated the impact of the Congressional action. She says state, local and most private funds have been cut off as well.


45 posted on 11/12/2009 12:39:51 PM PST by ichabod1 ( I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet.)
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To: NormsRevenge

ACORN has never READ the Constitution. EVER.


46 posted on 11/12/2009 12:41:07 PM PST by a fool in paradise (I refuse to "reduce my carbon footprint" all while Lenin remains in an airconditioned shrine)
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To: SandyInSeattle
ACORN says lots of stupid stuff.

At least if Shelia Jackson Lee ever gets voted out of office, she won't have to go on unemployment.

47 posted on 11/12/2009 12:42:54 PM PST by a fool in paradise (I refuse to "reduce my carbon footprint" all while Lenin remains in an airconditioned shrine)
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To: NormsRevenge

SCHADENFREUDE!!!

By all means, ACORN loons, cite for me the exact part of the non-living, non-flawed document, the United States Constitution, that states,

"Corrupt Organizations Shall Heretofore Be Entitled To Receiving Billions of American Taxpayer Dollars from the United States Congress, Regardless of Guiltiness in Conducting Illegal Business Dealings With Pimps And Prostitutes, Et Al, in perpetuity"

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!! PULEEZE! :-) :-)


48 posted on 11/12/2009 12:43:19 PM PST by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: Drango

thass raciss


49 posted on 11/12/2009 12:43:48 PM PST by ichabod1 ( I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet.)
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To: Drango

Maybe the PRIVATE FOUNDATIONS decided that they’ve given ENOUGH!


50 posted on 11/12/2009 12:44:45 PM PST by RebelTXRose
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