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How many Blue Dogs voted for Pelosicare?
Humanevents.com ^ | November 10, 2009 | JEd Babbin

Posted on 11/12/2009 12:12:43 PM PST by MamaDearest

Last Saturday night – at about 11:15 pm Eastern Standard Time – hyperliberal House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Cal) rammed her healthcare reform bill through with the smallest of margins.

Pelosi needed 218 to get the bill passed, and she got all of 220, opponents registering 215.  In short, three votes pushed the Pelosicare through to the point where the Senate can now consider it or some other version of it.

Where did those 220 votes come from?  Too many came from the so-called “Blue Dog Coalition” in Congress, a group of 52 Democratic representatives that claim to hold in high esteem the principles of “fiscal conservatism,” should be coming down hard on the side of responsible spending. Their record, as has been repeatedly documented on this site but has received little attention anywhere else however, casts grave doubts on the seriousness of their claim to “fiscal conservatism.”

There is little doubt that the American health care system is in a crisis. There are two facets of this crisis: the large number of Americans that can’t afford insurance and the out-of-control costs of the present system. To attack one facet of the problem on the back of the other is not only bad economics, its bad politics. The Blue Dogs, most of whom come from conservative districts, have been far from solid in their opposition to Pelosi’s irresponsible and damaging health care plan, and – we sincerely hope -- will pay dearly come next year’s midterm elections.

But the Pelosicare vote – standing alone – isn’t painting a clear enough picture of the Hapless Liberal Hounds.  Some of them – a group of 22 voted for the “cap and trade” global warming tax earlier this year. 

Now we can really narrow this down.  Here, courtesy of the number crunchers at HUMAN EVENTS, the 17 Blue Dogs that have shown their true stripes voting for a government takeover of health care and Pelosicare:

Blue Dogs that voted for H.R. 3962 “Pelosicare” and H.R. 2454 “Cap and Trade”

Joe Baca (CA-43)
Sanford Bishop (GA-02)
Leonard Boswell (IA-03)
Dennis Cardoza (CA-18)
Jim Cooper (TN-05)
Henry Cuellar (TX-28)
Gabrielle Giffords (AZ-08)
Jane Harman (CA-36)
Baron Hill (IN-09) [Blue Dog Co-Chair for Policy]
Mike Michaud (ME-02)
Dennis Moore (KS-03)
Patrick Murphy (PA-08)
Loretta Sanchez (CA-47)
Adam Schiff (CA-29)
David Scott (GA-13)
Zack Space (OH-18)
Mike Thompson (CA-01)
The above consists of 33% of Blue Dog membership

Blue Dogs that voted for Pelosicare, but not Cap and Trade

Mike Arcuri (NY-24)
Marion Berry (AR-01)
Christopher Carney (PA-10)
Jim Costa (CA-20)
Kathy Dahlkemper (PA-03)
Joe Donnelly (IN-02)
Brad Ellsworth (IN-08)
Earl Pomeroy (ND)
Charles Wilson (OH-06)
The above consists of 17% of Blue Dog membership

In total: 50% (26) of the supposedly fiscally conservative Blue Dogs voted for Pelosicare. 


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; blue; dogs; pelosicare; voted

1 posted on 11/12/2009 12:12:44 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: MamaDearest
How many Blue Dogs voted for Pelosicare?

Trick question. I'd answer 0. If you voted for Pelosicare you are NOT economically conservative and hence, not a "blue dog".


2 posted on 11/12/2009 12:16:46 PM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: MamaDearest

Maybe the ones who voted for it bought Pelosi’s line that the reason Democrats lost the house in 1994 was because they didn’t pass health care.

The rep from my district, a flaming liberal didn’t vote for it, so I think it had more to do with who would end up being sacraficed rather than principle.


3 posted on 11/12/2009 12:18:28 PM PST by dajeeps
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To: mmichaels1970

I thought Mary Landrieu considered her self a moderate or blue dog but I don’t see her on any lists. But, tracking her past votes she usually ends up voting whatever dem party wants. Let’s see how she does down the road when the administration starts the arm twisting. She needs to go anyway. Maybe in 2010 we will have another chance to remove the boil.


4 posted on 11/12/2009 12:22:04 PM PST by Bitsy
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To: dajeeps

The term “Blue Dog” is an invention of the MSM to make people think that in an election the Democrat has the same views as the Repulican, A Democrat is a Democrat and the ones who did not vote for the bill were hand picked by Pelosi and her group to look like they opposed it, to try an impress voters in their districts


5 posted on 11/12/2009 12:24:55 PM PST by Wooly
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To: MamaDearest
Blue dogs being conservative is a myth..
If they had any sense they wouldn't even be democrats..
6 posted on 11/12/2009 12:29:29 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: mmichaels1970

Loretta Sanchez a blue dog? No way. She’s a leftist through and through. She may represent a district in Orange Co., CA but trust me, she’s a super-lib.


7 posted on 11/12/2009 12:34:59 PM PST by Signalman
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To: MamaDearest

And the next question is, how many of them are vulnerable in 2010?


8 posted on 11/12/2009 12:38:44 PM PST by BJClinton (this space for rent)
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To: Bobkk47

She campaigned for Corzine...


9 posted on 11/12/2009 12:41:35 PM PST by jessduntno (TOTUS fails and POtuS becomes a phuttering stuck.)
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To: mmichaels1970

Hill ought to go down hard. Who is running against him? I can’t see how he can survive.


10 posted on 11/12/2009 12:44:05 PM PST by Nonstatist
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To: Nonstatist
Todd Young is running against Hill.
11 posted on 11/12/2009 12:48:23 PM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: MamaDearest
In total: 50% (26) of the supposedly fiscally conservative Blue Dogs voted for Pelosicare.

Only because the abortion amendment was thrown in. I'll bet most would've gone against it if not for that.

12 posted on 11/12/2009 12:50:50 PM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: Bobkk47
I was going to make the same observation re Sanchez.

She's farther to the left than Lindsey Graham!

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13 posted on 11/12/2009 12:51:16 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: MamaDearest

How many? Just enough to get the bill thru and still come out looking “bipartisan”. “Bipartisanship” is for....wussies.


14 posted on 11/12/2009 12:53:58 PM PST by uncitizen (I'm mad as hell and i'm not gonna take it anymore!!)
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To: BJClinton

“And the next question is, how many of them are vulnerable in 2010?”

Because we can send funding to their opponents even if they aren’t in our districts.


15 posted on 11/12/2009 12:55:14 PM PST by Let's Roll (Stop paying ACORN to destroy America! Cut off their government funding!)
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To: MamaDearest
It doesn't matter...the math was done and the fix was in. Now they're going to "nuclear option" it through the Senate...so if you need any life-saving surgery procedeures you'd better get them done now.

You might consider shipping grandma and grandpa off to Costa Rica or somewhere to escape the death panels.

The only way to stop this might be to just refuse to sign up, and let them try and jail about 150 million of us. After all, they're trying to free prisoners to served in obama's brownshirt corps, the food is free, and you can even attend college in there.

A better solution is to reverse the trick on pelosi and vote ALL DEMOCRATS (AND RINOS) OUT IN 2010...blue dog or not. That is the only sure way to stop this liberal steamroll.

They impose "ZERO TOLERANCE" our schools, so we need to carry that to the Goverment...zero tolerance for socialism and communism. Obama likes to "shout out" people, so let's band together and shout them all out.
16 posted on 11/12/2009 12:56:59 PM PST by FrankR (To Congress: You cram it down our throats in '09, We'll shove it up your ass in '10!)
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To: hosepipe
Blue dogs being conservative is a myth..

About half these "blue dogs" are in safe Democrap districts and may vote for defense spending bills on occasion, but thats about it.

17 posted on 11/12/2009 12:57:15 PM PST by Nonstatist
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To: uncitizen
How many? Just enough to get the bill thru and still come out looking “bipartisan”.

Blue dogs are still Democrats, so their votes have nothing to do with bipartisanship. The closest this bill got to bipartisan was one republican vote from that Cao dude in Louisiana.
18 posted on 11/12/2009 12:57:18 PM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: MamaDearest

You know, that list reminded me of my encounter with Heath Shuler, Blue Dog Democrat from North Carolina, in the hallway of the Cannon office building a couple of days after the 9/12 DC march. It started with my comment, “You’re not going to let Nancy Pelosi lead you around by the nose on this health care bill, are you?” It was a 5 minute conversation that seemed to catch him offguard and make him uncomfortable. He made an effort to marginalize and cast some suspicion on the Tea Party people. “What group are you with?”, he asked as he scrutinized my “Don’t Tread on Me” lapel pin. My last image is of him running away from the conversation when I stood my ground. And as we made our last comments, of him standing halfway in the elevator door with the door repeatedly trying to close and hitting him in the back and reopening. Maybe that conversation played a small part in his “No” vote after all.


19 posted on 11/12/2009 1:00:35 PM PST by Prince Caspian
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To: mmichaels1970
I said "looking bipartisan". It's the RAT strategy. They know the people don't like what they're doing. So they just break the arms of enough "blue dogs" to pull off a victory and at the same time make it look like those blue dogs that didn't vote with the party were thinking independently, you know, being bipartisan. Which is code for "we're better than you are".
20 posted on 11/12/2009 1:03:20 PM PST by uncitizen (I'm mad as hell and i'm not gonna take it anymore!!)
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To: Prince Caspian

The fact is that several if not most of these SOB’s could and should be turned out by voters back in their districts. Send a couple of dollars to their opponents and publicize how these smelly jackasses are Nancy Botoxi lovin’ pests.


21 posted on 11/12/2009 1:09:31 PM PST by Combat_Liberalism
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To: Wooly

What about Zell Miller?

Too bad there aren’t more like him around.


22 posted on 11/12/2009 3:12:23 PM PST by dajeeps
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To: MamaDearest

As far as I am concerned every last one of them voted for it. Because it is rigged - the RATs would extract exactly the number of votes they needed, hence they are all guilty. Voting for a RAT is the same as voting for Marxism - any and every RAT.


23 posted on 11/12/2009 3:31:06 PM PST by rigelkentaurus
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