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Someone at the RNC Must be Fired Over This.
RedState.com ^ | November 11, 1009 | Leon H.Wolf

Posted on 11/12/2009 8:59:46 PM PST by khnyny

Let’s keep this simple. Word got out today via Politico that the RNC’s health care package for their employees covers abortions. At the risk of belaboring the obvious, if you at any time have donated to the RNC since 1991 (when this policy apparently took place), some incremental portion of your donation went to the administrative costs of running the RNC, including employee salaries and benefits packages. Part of “benefits packages” in this context is apparently a health care package that pays for abortions.

For thirty years, we have fought tooth and nail to prevent our tax money from being used to pay for abortions. Turns out, we were apparently doing it through donating to the political party that was ostensibly on our side. This betrayal is so fundamental to the majority of people who donate to the RNC that it’s almost unspeakable. I have no doubt that many of the staffers there will miss the point, so allow me to make it clearly: you have caused every person who donated to support your livelihood to become involved in what they perceive to be a grave moral evil.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; gop; healthcare; hypocrisy; michaelsteele; prolife; republicans; republicrats; rino; rinos; rnc; steele; thestupidparty
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1 posted on 11/12/2009 8:59:46 PM PST by khnyny
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To: khnyny

I saw this on Fox News on the bottom of the screen and I said “OMG you can’t be serious, the RNC plan covers abortion too!” Stupid ass RNC, what part of ABORTION IS NOT HEALTH CARE do they not understand


2 posted on 11/12/2009 9:01:52 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: khnyny
if you at any time have donated to the RNC

I'm very safe then.

3 posted on 11/12/2009 9:02:10 PM PST by eclecticEel (The Most High rules in the kingdom of men ... and sets over it the basest of men.)
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To: khnyny

bump


4 posted on 11/12/2009 9:02:19 PM PST by dr_who
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To: dr_who

I contribute to candidates, not parties


5 posted on 11/12/2009 9:02:45 PM PST by rstrahan
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To: khnyny

What are Republicans?


6 posted on 11/12/2009 9:04:17 PM PST by blam
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To: khnyny; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
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Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment

Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

7 posted on 11/12/2009 9:04:21 PM PST by narses ("These are the days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed except his own.")
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To: Sarah Barracuda

WHAT in the SAM HILL!!??


8 posted on 11/12/2009 9:06:01 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Major Hasan: The kind of American "clinging bitterly to religion and guns" FBI/DHS WON'T go after!)
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To: khnyny

Now can we say 3rd party????


9 posted on 11/12/2009 9:06:16 PM PST by txroadkill ( 9/12/2009 another win for the Gipper!)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Well now we know why the RNC hasn’t been real helpful to our cause.


10 posted on 11/12/2009 9:06:29 PM PST by Tribune7 (I am Joe Wilson!)
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To: khnyny

I think the GOP had been in trouble for a long time. Just more revelations of why the party has been so impotent in the last few years. They can’t fight against what they are allowing.

But it’s never too late to get on the right track.


11 posted on 11/12/2009 9:08:05 PM PST by swheats (America! America! God mend thine every flaw, Confirm thy soul in self-control, Thy liberty in law!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

WHAT in the SAM HILL!!??


That was my response except with A LOT more profanity.


12 posted on 11/12/2009 9:09:46 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Tribune7

Just what I was thinking.


13 posted on 11/12/2009 9:10:46 PM PST by mrsmel
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To: txroadkill
'Now can we say 3rd party????"

Sure, if your goal is to guarantee a permanent Democrat super-majority, say "3rd Party" all you want.

If that's not your goal, it might make more sense to fix the Republican party.

14 posted on 11/12/2009 9:10:58 PM PST by OldDeckHand (Obamacare - So bad, even Joe Lieberman isn't going to vote for it.)
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To: khnyny

More and more I’m wondering, “WHY am I supporting this party?”


15 posted on 11/12/2009 9:11:39 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Godspeed, T, on your fourth tour of duty in Iraq.)
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To: txroadkill

We have to fix the party, going 3rd party will only guarantee Obama the Tyrant another time. By the time he is done, we won’t have a country anymore. The Republican party can be fixed but boy do they have problems. Just when I thought I have seen everything, my jaw literally dropped when I read this. At first I thought it said DNC then I saw it said RNC and I was like WHATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT


16 posted on 11/12/2009 9:12:54 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: swheats; All
I agree, it's never too late to get on the right track.

First, the leadership has to be held accountable and then real reform needs to take place. Not everyone in the Republican Party supports this. Imho, we need a true two party system, with clearly delineated differences and positions, not a charade.

17 posted on 11/12/2009 9:13:10 PM PST by khnyny
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To: khnyny

Bush’s fault it started in 2001.


18 posted on 11/12/2009 9:13:23 PM PST by guitarplayer1953 (Romak 7.62X54MM, AK47 7.62X39MM, LARGO 9X23MM, HAPINESS IS A WARM GUN BANG BANG YEA YEA)
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To: Darkwolf377

More and more I’m wondering, “WHY am I supporting this party?”


That’s why I only give my money to Sarah’s PAC. I don’t even consider myself a Republican, I’m a Conservative, when the Republican party cleans up their damn act, I will come back. In the meantime, I’m happy just being a Conservative


19 posted on 11/12/2009 9:14:20 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: khnyny

Meet the old boss. Same as the new boss.


20 posted on 11/12/2009 9:15:40 PM PST by Soothesayer9
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To: All

Sheesh...they didnt even know they had such coverage...it’s never paid out a claim for an abortion...and it WILL be rectified...

It was probably part of a coverage switch and no one caught it...

OR some smart ass liberal at cigna inserted the coverage as a gotcha...

Either way...dont fly off at the handle...that is the entire purpose of the article...it’s Liberal agit-prop...made to elicit the reaction seen above...


21 posted on 11/12/2009 9:15:57 PM PST by Crim
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To: khnyny

I know that politically I should stay in the republican party, but I don’t know if I can stay a member of a baby killing party. They are actually providing for the death of children in their “health” care package. I guess I have to officially change the name to the RNC death care package. This is beyond belief.


22 posted on 11/12/2009 9:18:59 PM PST by Waryone (II Chronicles 7:14)
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To: blam
What are Republicans?

Democrats in unsafe districts?

23 posted on 11/12/2009 9:19:22 PM PST by Michael.SF. (At least Hitler got the Olympics for Germany)
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To: khnyny
Just asking a question....

Could it be that the particular State(s) that the RNC provides employee medical insurance in requires a policy type that includes covering this service abomination ?

24 posted on 11/12/2009 9:19:51 PM PST by voteNRA (A citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized)
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To: khnyny

I don’t think our government is on the side of the people. sarc/


25 posted on 11/12/2009 9:26:03 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: khnyny

We’ll see how Steele handles this one. His answer better not be personal choice blah d blah d blah...


26 posted on 11/12/2009 9:26:06 PM PST by swheats (America! America! God mend thine every flaw, Confirm thy soul in self-control, Thy liberty in law!)
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To: voteNRA

That’s my thought as well... Many states REQUIRE certain coverages and riders for any and all insurance policies sold. Just another reason why cross-State policies must be allowed.

But I guess it’s more fun to whip ourselves into a frenzy...


27 posted on 11/12/2009 9:26:24 PM PST by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible.)
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To: khnyny
Word got out today via Politico that the RNC’s health care package for their employees covers abortions.

Health "care". The murder of babies and the word "care" shouldn't ever be allowed to be linked. As for the RNC, they will never get money from me and neither will, of course, the DNC. Any money I choose to donate will go directly to specific candidates.

28 posted on 11/12/2009 9:29:26 PM PST by highlander_UW (To anger a conservative tell him a lie. To anger a liberal tell him the truth.)
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To: khnyny

I’d say this revelation goes a long way toward explaining why abortion laws didn’t change while the RNC controlled both the executive and legislative branches.

Let’s face it. The DNC and RNC are more alike than different.


29 posted on 11/12/2009 9:30:39 PM PST by edweena
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To: khnyny

I have no love at all for the RNC but I’d wager that no one working there has much control over what is covered in their health insurance.

Like most businesses and organizations, they probably contract an insurance company to administer the health plan, and have nothing to do with it aside from writing checks.


30 posted on 11/12/2009 9:33:07 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
"Just another reason why cross-State policies must be allowed."

Amen!

"But I guess it’s more fun to whip ourselves into a frenzy..."

That's what the internets are for!

31 posted on 11/12/2009 9:34:13 PM PST by voteNRA (A citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized)
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To: khnyny
Wait a second. I'm not saying you cannot be upset at this, but aren't we just playing into the hands of the RATS who are looking to undercut the Stupak amendment? You know this is going to lead the news just as Larry Craig led the news just as Mark Foley led the news just as Bob Livingston led the news just as Bob Packwood led the news... The media and the RATS love to call us hypocrites and we're usually only too happy to scream it louder than they do.

The bigger we make this out to be, the more we hand the issue over to the RATS. The smart move is to say it's disgusting, and that the policy was done almost 20 years, the provision was not included at the request of the party, and is being taken out immediately. End of story.

Any media cretin or RAT who wants to blow this into something huge and demand to know why no one at the RNC knew the provision was in the policy should get smacked back with, "Well this is the problem when you don't read things closely, so you can imagine how truly awful the things are in that massive health care bill that all those Democrats voted for but did not read."

32 posted on 11/12/2009 9:34:57 PM PST by Dahoser (The missus and I joined the NRA. Who says Obama can't inspire conservatives?)
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To: khnyny

Uh Dudes!

Before everyone goes ballistic, what are the coverage laws in the state that the RNC buys insurance??

Just about every state, and now the fed gov’t, mandates certain coverage for certain needs, which the insurance carrier and recipient can’t opt out of.

If your state says you must cover accupuncture, you are forced to buy insurance coverage that includes accupuncture.

What does the RNC state mandate about abortion????


33 posted on 11/12/2009 9:40:13 PM PST by aShepard
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To: Sarah Barracuda; OldDeckHand
I would have agreed with you last year, the last time we were divided we got 8 years of Clinton, but this is a different time, we have the momentum, look at what we accomplished with the Tea Parties.

I believe we have enough time to force the GOP to join us instead of them continuing to make us compromise because we are too afraid of the alternative. The GOP has the same disease that all of Washington has, they either have forgotten who they work for, or, they just don't give a damn. For the first time since Reagan left the White House we have the power. The GOP has nothing now, we need to make them join us this time.

34 posted on 11/12/2009 9:41:14 PM PST by txroadkill ( 9/12/2009 another win for the Gipper!)
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To: khnyny

Don’t EVER donate to the RNC or any other Republican source that will eagerly take your money and funnel it to RINO’s.

The Republican establishment likes their “establishment” (read NOT conservative) candidates.

It’s not hard to find out who the conservatives are and give directly to them, the internet is a wonderful thing. If we all do our jobs right Michael Steele will be looking in sofa cushions to fund his next RINO.


35 posted on 11/12/2009 9:41:25 PM PST by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: txroadkill

Oh, nonononononono!

Don’t you dare even even hint at a 3rd. You MUST play with the loaded dice already on the table. You can’t win if you don’t play.

Your choices are Dem, dem, dem or dem. And do ignore the little old british man in drag who protests (s)he hates Spam...er...dem!


36 posted on 11/12/2009 9:41:49 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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To: khnyny

This is not so surprising when considering that the RINOs are in control.


37 posted on 11/12/2009 9:44:34 PM PST by Republic_of_Secession.
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Sorry, you got punked! This is the RNC’s own private insurance plan for their members. Many private plans cover abortion in the fine print, which almost nobody reads. Most people look at price and coverage for things they might need and don’t even pay attention to coverage that doesn’t apply to them. Frankly, I don’t know if my policy covers abortion. I’m a guy, so never even looked at that part of the policy. Do you know if your policy covers abortion? 46% of them do (google it).

The SRM starting with politico has intentionally made this look like the RNC’s healthcare alternative to obama’s nightmare. It’s not.


38 posted on 11/12/2009 9:45:14 PM PST by piytar (Go Away RNC, Steele, Graham, and the rest of the lib-loser GOP. WE'RE TAKING OUR PARTY BACK!)
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To: OldDeckHand
Sure, if your goal is to guarantee a permanent Democrat super-majority, say "3rd Party" all you want. If that's not your goal, it might make more sense to fix the Republican party.

Where is the evidence that "fixing" the GOP is any less of a pipe dream?

39 posted on 11/12/2009 9:45:41 PM PST by Sloth (For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of the International Olympic Committee.)
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To: khnyny; All

Does YOUR insurance policy cover abortions? Do you even know? I know I don’t.


40 posted on 11/12/2009 9:46:06 PM PST by Shethink13
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To: voteNRA

Probable, in fact. This is a pure hatchet job. Witness the freepers on this thread who apparently think this is the Republican’s alternative to obamanationcare.

I’m no friend of the RNC (see tag), but this is pure SRM propaganda that is even working on freepers. Scary, to say the least.


41 posted on 11/12/2009 9:49:44 PM PST by piytar (Go Away RNC, Steele, Graham, and the rest of the lib-loser GOP. WE'RE TAKING OUR PARTY BACK!)
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To: khnyny

Some states require group plans to cover abortion.

This is why I don’t participate in group plans.


42 posted on 11/12/2009 9:51:08 PM PST by proudpapa (Obama - Worst One Ever!)
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To: khnyny
America's Independent Party
43 posted on 11/12/2009 9:55:43 PM PST by EternalVigilance (We're witnessing the slow strangulation death of American republican self-government and liberty.)
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To: Crim

A quick question because I don’t know. Can companies pick and choose what goes in a plan, or do the insurance sompanies say something like these are the plans available which do you want?


44 posted on 11/12/2009 9:56:46 PM PST by HappyCapitalist
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To: Shethink13
"Does YOUR insurance policy cover abortions? Do you even know? I know I don’t."

That is a very interesting question, I know I don't , and I'm willing to bet that a majority of people that have never thought of an abortion do either.

This question has the benefit of fitting on a bumper-sticker and the potential of inspiring many States across the Nation to make sure that abortion is not required under their laws regarding what plans are offered.

45 posted on 11/12/2009 9:57:41 PM PST by voteNRA (A citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized)
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To: HappyCapitalist

From what I read they have the option to opt out..the RNCC doesnt pay for abortion coverage...

I’m sure this is an oversight of some kind...but hardly worth termination...

It sure seems to have to as a surprise to the RNC....

And no one noticed that obviously the timing of this relevation is suspect to say the least....someone was digging around for a club to beat the stupak amendment with...

My how convienient...


46 posted on 11/12/2009 10:00:47 PM PST by Crim
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To: HappyCapitalist
A quick answer because I can only speak for a small business in Minnesota...

NO!!, You get about 4 or 5 companies to choose from and the different policies you choose from differ in co-payments not "services covered"

My current policy could very well cover abortions, I don't know and have never thought to even ask the question.

If my firm's insurance covers abortion, please don't confuse that with us being "pro-baby killers" Nothing could be farther from the truth!

I hope the RNC can say the same thing, and will believe they do until proven otherwise.

47 posted on 11/12/2009 10:08:46 PM PST by voteNRA (A citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized)
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To: khnyny

Someone in the RNC / bowels of the GOP, they have decided to move a GOP-approved candidate into the Michigan 7th to take on Mark Schauer.

Mind you, this was a GOP “safe” seat until this year, and Tim Walberg’s campaign is well underway to take back that seat (Tim had it for 2 years before Schauer, replacing the RINO Joe Schwarz).

I don’t like it when the GOP moves in people just to win an election, especially when the local people can do it on their own w/ a very conservative candidate.


48 posted on 11/12/2009 10:15:56 PM PST by TWohlford
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To: khnyny

You wonder why these people lose to the Democrats as much as they do. Yes the media hurts them, but they do a lot of stupid things like this too.

How about letting Bill Owens NY 23 Democrat get seated before he is even certified. They could have used the Roland Burris case that he wasn’t allowed to be seated until he was certified in Illinois.

How much Federal money they wasted that could have been used to lower the deficit during the Bush years, etc.

The RNC, RNCC, and the NRSC is not worthy of our support. Individual candidates are.


49 posted on 11/12/2009 10:19:56 PM PST by Steelers6
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To: voteNRA
I must honestly say it never occurred to me that private insurance plans might pay for elective abortions.

If insurance companies do pay for these, I'll bet most women covered by insurance aren't aware of it either.

I always thought the purpose of Planned Parenthood et al was to "help" women who didn't have access to "family planning" options, which to me assumes insurance payments wouldn't be available. I just don't see the local abortion clinic asking for one's insurance card.

It's interesting to note that the price for an abortion has not increased at the rate of other medical services, which would imply market forces rather than insurance coverage.

50 posted on 11/12/2009 10:22:16 PM PST by Shethink13
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