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Ford plans new police model to replace Crown Vic
Ford Motor Company ^ | Friday November 13, 2009 | Ford

Posted on 11/13/2009 12:22:27 PM PST by taildragger

DEARBORN, Mich. (AP) -- Ford Motor Co. says it plans to sell a new police cruiser vehicle to replace the Crown Victoria once the sedan is phased out of production in 2011.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: auto; automakers; ford; fordmotor; lawenforcement; leo; michigan
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Ford says the new car will be more fuel efficient and offer lower ownership costs to municipalities than the existing Crown Victoria law enforcement vehicles. Though the Crown Victoria is popular among police departments, the large sedan is relatively inefficient, getting an EPA-estimated average of 19 mpg. Ford says it will unveil the details of the new car in the first quarter next year. Ford says it sells about 45,000 police vehicles a year, about 75 percent of all police vehicles sold in the U.S.
1 posted on 11/13/2009 12:22:29 PM PST by taildragger
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To: taildragger
"Autoblog" is already hinting it may be the Australian Falcon w/ the Eco-Boost Engine..

Hubba Hubba, that is a combo to make an auto enthusiast drool, talk about "Unobtanium"!!!!

2 posted on 11/13/2009 12:24:29 PM PST by taildragger (Palin/Mulally 2012)
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To: taildragger

3 posted on 11/13/2009 12:25:47 PM PST by taildragger (Palin/Mulally 2012)
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To: taildragger
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/11/13/breaking-ford-announces-it-will-build-all-new-police-intercepto/
4 posted on 11/13/2009 12:27:27 PM PST by taildragger (Palin/Mulally 2012)
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To: taildragger
Any pictures of the Aussie falcon?
5 posted on 11/13/2009 12:28:45 PM PST by reprobate (Carter's Dirty tricks)
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To: taildragger
"Ford says it sells about 45,000 police vehicles a year, about 75 percent of all police vehicles sold in the U.S'

Those days are over. All law enforcement agencies will be required to buy police cars from goobermint motors or the feds will withhold funds. Hide and watch - its coming.....red

6 posted on 11/13/2009 12:30:22 PM PST by rednek ("Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.")
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To: reprobate

Kick er in the guts Barry. She’s the last of the V-8’s. You can shut the gate on this one Maxie, it’s the duck’s gut. Yeah, she’s the last of the V-8’s. Nitro, Phase Four Heads, 12 to 1. Tell him about the BLOWER! 600 HP. ITS A BLOWER! THE BLOWER MAN!! Meanest system and born to run. He’s in a COMA man. He loves it. OK. How the hell did you get all this together? It just happened Max, you know. A piece from here, and a piece from there. So easy. Yeah. Come on Max, you’ve seen it, heard it and still asking questions. When do we go for a RIDE!?!


7 posted on 11/13/2009 12:31:26 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: taildragger

Cops in my town use Chargers...


8 posted on 11/13/2009 12:34:21 PM PST by Lurking in Kansas (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: taildragger

Hopefully the new one is more resistant to exploding on impact than the Crown Vic.


9 posted on 11/13/2009 12:34:48 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: taildragger
They come in colors.


10 posted on 11/13/2009 12:35:38 PM PST by Lady Jag (Double your income. Fire the government)
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To: taildragger

Looks like another boring car to me.


11 posted on 11/13/2009 12:36:25 PM PST by RoadTest (The LORD loveth the gates of Zion more than all the dwellings of Jacob. - Psalm 87:2)
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To: RoadTest

I see the love-child of a BMW M5 [daddy] and a Honda Accord [mommy].


12 posted on 11/13/2009 12:40:39 PM PST by ExcursionGuy84 ("Jesus, Your Love takes my breath away.")
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To: taildragger
I suppose this is too much to hope for:


13 posted on 11/13/2009 12:41:38 PM PST by Reaganesque ("And thou shalt do it with all humility, trusting in me, reviling not against revilers.")
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To: ExcursionGuy84

“I see the love-child of a BMW M5 [daddy] and a Honda Accord [mommy].”

Ha!


14 posted on 11/13/2009 12:44:08 PM PST by RoadTest (The LORD loveth the gates of Zion more than all the dwellings of Jacob. - Psalm 87:2)
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To: reprobate


It's pretty retro.
15 posted on 11/13/2009 12:52:08 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: taildragger

it plans to challenge the Crown Victoria’s law enforcement dominance with its own heavy-duty Chevrolet Caprice sedan.
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It had better be a different Caprice, I have owned and driven a Crown Victoria police version and standard version and I have seen and driven the Caprice. I wouldn’t trade a Crown for three Caprices.


16 posted on 11/13/2009 12:52:22 PM PST by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a leftist is like trying to catch sunshine in a fish net at midnight.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

best movie of the trilogy IMHO. Yeah the 2nd one was close to it but the 3rd was a disaster


17 posted on 11/13/2009 12:52:42 PM PST by henry_reardon
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To: taildragger

Driving a Crown Vic is like taking a trip back in time (in a good way). Not many sedans left that are a big and roomy (to the point of being cavernous) highway cruiser with plenty of horses up front to drive the wheels in the back. My first car was a Crown Vic, and I still the miss it some days (1985 model year, dark blue with whitewall tires, btw.).


18 posted on 11/13/2009 12:55:56 PM PST by DemforBush (Now officially 100% ex-Democrat.)
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To: Lurking in Kansas
Same here...

OSHP = A$$holes
19 posted on 11/13/2009 1:01:10 PM PST by TSgt (I long for Norman Rockwell's America.)
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To: RoadTest

Looks can be deceiving...

http://www.carandsuv.co.nz/articles/ford-falcon-xr8-fg-2008-review

http://www.themotorreport.com.au/5625/2008-ford-falcon-xr6-turbo-road-test/


20 posted on 11/13/2009 1:01:28 PM PST by Josh Painter ("Government cannot make you happy or healthy or wealthy or wise." - Sarah Heath Palin)
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To: MikeWUSAF

They sure seem to have earned that reputation - even up here.


21 posted on 11/13/2009 1:06:49 PM PST by mcshot (Our guvmint is not made up of the best and brightest, but they are practiced criminals.)
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To: taildragger

Well, if you have a million dollars, and want to quintuple it x10 in a few years, buy up a bunch of stripped down Crown Vics, and a heck of a lot of spare parts, and warehouse them.

Then, in a few years, you can have an auction, with about 200 police chiefs in cutthroat bidding to get their hands on “real” cars, not those [multitude of expletives deleted] “green” cars Ford is now making.

Of course, the top bucks will go for the “built like a tank” classic models, that are like battleship plate compared to the tin cans on the road today.


22 posted on 11/13/2009 1:07:23 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: mcshot

There are too many state cops in Ohio. Go south to KY or TN and you see few if any. In Ohio, they are everywhere and are really nasty if they pull you over.

If I’m speeding, write me a ticket but don’t act like a drill sergeant when you do it.


23 posted on 11/13/2009 1:10:49 PM PST by TSgt (I long for Norman Rockwell's America.)
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To: taildragger

Why don’t they just re-badge a Lincoln as the Police Crown Victoria?


24 posted on 11/13/2009 1:15:41 PM PST by lack-of-trust
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

The Australians use the Falcon for police duty already and they’re tougher than the Crown Vics. Faster, too.

The Falcon is a modern RWD V6/V8 sedan that actually puts the BMW 5 series to shame in a number of ways.


25 posted on 11/13/2009 1:21:40 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Reaganesque

(picture of Batmobile)

Taken at Michigan Speedway I assume... I was there... press creds...


26 posted on 11/13/2009 1:29:10 PM PST by TWohlford
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To: lack-of-trust

Because the only Lincoln sturdy enough to serve as a police car IS a Crown Vic with a body kit, the Town Car.

And it’s just as slow.


27 posted on 11/13/2009 1:29:19 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: TWohlford

Nice!


28 posted on 11/13/2009 1:30:38 PM PST by Reaganesque ("And thou shalt do it with all humility, trusting in me, reviling not against revilers.")
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To: RipSawyer

The Caprice they’re talking about is the Holden Caprice, a close cousin to the now-discontinued-but-missed-if-only-it-wasn’t-Government-Motors Pontiac G8 RWD V8 sedan. Not the old bathtub body-on-frame car. Or the recent Fail Wheel Drive abortion.


29 posted on 11/13/2009 1:31:35 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

“And it’s just as slow.”

Don’t need stunning top speeds on a cop car. That’s what radios, aircraft and large numbers of cops deployed in various locations are for.

Handling and durability and crash survival and storage/passenger space are much more valuable than high top speed.


30 posted on 11/13/2009 1:34:13 PM PST by TWohlford
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To: Spktyr
The Australians use the Falcon for police duty already and they’re tougher than the Crown Vics. Faster, too. The Falcon is a modern RWD V6/V8 sedan that actually puts the BMW 5 series to shame in a number of ways.

I've seen a Falcon in MI w/ Manufacturing Plates, she's a beauty Vern. With the Eco-Boost and RWD, my guess it would be quite the machine. Just look @ it......


31 posted on 11/13/2009 1:37:09 PM PST by taildragger (Palin/Mulally 2012)
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To: TWohlford

The Town Car has the same problematic fuel tank design as the Crown Vic (since under the bodywork is IS a Crown Vic). It also has the same awful handling and braking of the Vic as well as the all the other problems that that particular 40+ year old chassis has.


32 posted on 11/13/2009 1:37:51 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

The Vic is a Dino, may it rest in peace. The Auto & Police Blogs are pissed yes that it goes, but how do you make it 5 star crash? How do you bring it into the 21st century? If they go w/ the Falcon, they are starting with a really current chassis let alone suspension dynamics which have come eon’s in a subtle way.


33 posted on 11/13/2009 1:40:29 PM PST by taildragger (Palin/Mulally 2012)
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To: taildragger

Smartcopcar


34 posted on 11/13/2009 1:40:40 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is fading.)
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To: reprobate

See post 3 and 31..... TD


35 posted on 11/13/2009 1:43:04 PM PST by taildragger (Palin/Mulally 2012)
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To: reprobate

36 posted on 11/13/2009 2:32:48 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (("To psychology! The cause of... and solution to... all of life's problems"))
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To: taildragger
One of my favorite pictures!


37 posted on 11/13/2009 3:06:15 PM PST by jws3sticks (Sarah Palin forever!)
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To: Jewbacca

Retro, perhaps, but I have one with about 50,000 miles, and it starts, purrs, goes where I want, and can absorb the nasty road that ParcMan ‘maintains that runs by my home.

On the highway, it delivers 16/17 mpg.


38 posted on 11/13/2009 4:28:41 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: Spktyr
The Town Car has the same problematic fuel tank design as the Crown Vic

You consistently post false information about American cars and motorcycles. What's your problem?

There was no "problematic fuel tank design" in the Crown Vic. The problem was with aftermarket police equipment installations in the trunk, when the companies would inadvertently drill into the fuel tank or leave screws that were too long for the location perilously close to the fuel tank. Add a 80 mph rear end collision, and the tanks punctured, sometimes igniting.

But you likely knew that there was no faulty design. It's just that you couldn't pass up an opportunity to bash American cars.

39 posted on 11/13/2009 5:12:09 PM PST by OA5599
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To: taildragger

I love the Crown Vic. I find it odd that so many complain about its size, “poor” gas mileage, and acceleration/speed. I think it stems from the terrible products that American car manufacturers provided in the late 70s/early 80s.

The Crown Vic is a comfort ride. When I have relatives in from Europe they always remark about how roomy, smooth, and quiet the car is. It is also extremely safe and has 8 cylinders that really move the car whenever you really need it. The idea that every car needs to be a small, zippy, gas efficient, “coffin-on-wheels” is ludicrous. I’ll pay a couple of extra bucks for gas in order to get where I want in comfort and style.


40 posted on 11/13/2009 5:13:19 PM PST by grand wazoo
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To: rednek
Those days are over. All law enforcement agencies will be required to buy police cars from goobermint motors or the feds will withhold funds. Hide and watch - its coming.....red

Interesting prediction...we shall see...

41 posted on 11/13/2009 5:27:05 PM PST by hinckley buzzard (Truth -- to a liberal, what sunrise is to a vampire)
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To: grand wazoo

I concur. I’ve ridden in a significant number of them as NYC taxis. They are being phased out with smaller imports, minivans and hybrids. The replacement vehicles provide a jarring ride over the rough city roads. They simply don’t compare to the Crown Vics. Especially when it’s 4 am and you’re a wee bit inebriated!


42 posted on 11/13/2009 5:32:46 PM PST by OA5599
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To: DuncanWaring

Waring, they fixed that embarrassing cop car explosion thing ages ago. Rear Shock Mount was puncturing the tank when the vehicle was struck from behind, so they put a skirt around it that just kinda mushes the tank a little bit.

FoMoCo Engineering, Baby! Besides, why the complaint? Exploding Fords is a hallowed Anerican tradition ... Pintos, Explorers, Crown Vics ... if you can’t stand the heat, get outa the damn car.


43 posted on 11/13/2009 8:33:47 PM PST by Kenny Bunk ( Obama voter? Learn where he was in 2006, and what he did.)
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To: OA5599

It wasn’t just that. While most civilian CV’s didn’t catch fire in rear end collisions, a statistically significant amount of them did.

Specifically, one of my older friends had its corporate twin, the Mercury Grand Marquis. It got rear ended by a drunk driver while parked and the fuel tank ruptured. It was only luck that it didn’t get sparked; and there was nothing in the trunk.

Also, if the problem is police accessory screws being too long, why would a special shield help prevent fire? And why would they also install the shields on Town Cars?

http://www.autosafety.org/category/categories/vehicle-fires/crown-victoria-fires/crown-victoria-fires-latest-news

Someone has faulty info here, and it’s not me.


44 posted on 11/13/2009 8:52:32 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: taildragger

As a cop I have driven Impalas and Crown Vics. Given the choice give me a Vic anyday and twice on Sunday. One thing these companies don’t realize is that cops don’t care about gas mileage. Departments do. Cops don’t pay for gas.


45 posted on 11/13/2009 9:03:09 PM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: taildragger

This might make for a good replacement

http://cache.gizmodo.com/gadgets/images/HelloKittyTRFinalsmall.jpg


46 posted on 11/13/2009 10:08:30 PM PST by tlb
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To: Kenny Bunk

Explorers explode? I thought they just rolled over.


47 posted on 11/14/2009 3:06:17 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Spktyr
It wasn’t just that. While most civilian CV’s didn’t catch fire in rear end collisions, a statistically significant amount of them did.

figures please

Specifically, one of my older friends had its corporate twin, the Mercury Grand Marquis. It got rear ended by a drunk driver while parked and the fuel tank ruptured. It was only luck that it didn’t get sparked; and there was nothing in the trunk.

Anecdotal. Here's my anecdote: When I was a child, I had to evacuate my apartment building because a drunk driver rear ended a car parked on the side of the road in which my building was located. The car was not a Crown Vic, yet the fuel tank ruptured and there was a huge fire. The road happened to be a service road for a limited access highway, and the drunk driver was likely doing 60+ mph. Crown Vics are not the only cars which have fuel tanks, and those fuel tanks in any car are susceptible to rupture at highway speeds.

Also, if the problem is police accessory screws being too long, why would a special shield help prevent fire?

You do realize there are multiple ways to get the same results? The shield is between the fuel tank and the rear axle. In the event of a high speed rear end crash, the fuel tank can be pushed into the rear axle, causing it to burst.

However, the majority of the fires in Crown Vics were due to police equipment in the trunk puncturing the tank. (For this, there is also a package called the trunk pack which is a trunk liner.)

If you bothered to read articles at the link you gave me, one of the latest Crown Vic fires was in Texas in 2003. It was determined that the "videotape mounting bracket punctured the tank."

And why would they also install the shields on Town Cars?

They didn't. (Although they did offer it on Town Car based limos.)

Someone has faulty info here, and it’s not me.

I guess the NHTSA has faulty info. They rate the Crown Victoria, Grand Marquis, and Town Car a perfect 5 stars in every crash rating. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration studied Crown Victoria crashes in 2002 and determined the car met safety standards. Many of the police crashes resulted from high-speed incidents that few cars would withstand, the agency ruled.

48 posted on 11/14/2009 7:13:41 AM PST by OA5599
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To: MikeWUSAF

I lived in OH back when the 55mph limit came in.
They were the first state to figure out you can make a lot of money on interstate speeding fines.
And if they are out of state victims, little chance of voter retribution.
Has continued to this day.
Even though they’ve just passed gambling, I don’t expect this revenue enhancer to change.


49 posted on 11/14/2009 7:19:25 AM PST by nascarnation
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To: Lady Jag

lol — looks like it should be dispensed from a gumball machine.


50 posted on 11/14/2009 7:22:49 AM PST by Yardstick
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