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At 75, Charles Manson still has power to influence others
CNN ^ | 11/13/09 | Ted Rowlands

Posted on 11/13/2009 1:26:33 PM PST by Borges

At 75, Charles Manson has spent more than half his life in prison for masterminding the notorious Helter Skelter killing spree that left actress Sharon Tate and six others dead in Los Angeles during the summer of 1969.

Manson spent his 75th birthday this week at the state prison in Corcoran, California, where he is in the protective housing unit. Some records indicate that Manson was born on November 12, but Manson's current associates and other records indicate his birthday was on Wednesday, November 11.

"He spent the day the same way he spends every day in prison," said Terry Thornton, spokeswoman for the state department of corrections. "Lately, the prison has told me, he doesn't come out of his cell very often."

She added that Manson didn't mention his birthday to anyone, and only emerged from his cell for about 20 minutes on Wednesday.

While his appearance has changed significantly from the wide-eyed cult leader who appeared on the cover of Life magazine in 1969, Manson continues to wield influence over some who consider him a wizened messenger.

Prison officials say Manson still gets lots of mail and spends most of his days singing and playing guitar in a high security unit. He also spends time speaking to associates like "Gray Wolf," 60, and "Star," a 24-year-old fast food employee.

Wolf said Manson gave him his name -- just as he named members of his infamous "Family" of followers during the 1960s. Wolf said he moved close to the prison in Corcoran so he could be near the man he believes possesses deep insight into environmental issues.

"Manson thinks the destruction of the environment is much more serious than we are being made out to believe," Wolf told CNN.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: influence; manson

1 posted on 11/13/2009 1:26:34 PM PST by Borges
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To: Borges

I wonder who “Gray Wolf” votes for.


2 posted on 11/13/2009 1:29:55 PM PST by synbad600
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To: Borges

He isn’t dead yet?


3 posted on 11/13/2009 1:30:18 PM PST by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: Borges
"Manson thinks the destruction of the environment is much more serious than we are being made out to believe," Wolf told CNN.

But he's never been as dangerous as Al Gore.

4 posted on 11/13/2009 1:30:18 PM PST by San Jacinto
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To: Borges

He isn’t dead yet?


5 posted on 11/13/2009 1:30:18 PM PST by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: BigEdLB

Unfortunately not.


6 posted on 11/13/2009 1:32:36 PM PST by SoKatt ("Change" is not a strategy!)
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To: synbad600
HA!

Joke's on me.

7 posted on 11/13/2009 1:33:02 PM PST by synbad600
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To: Borges
the destruction of the environment is much more serious than we are being made out to believe

That's not possible.

8 posted on 11/13/2009 1:34:08 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (:: The government will do for health care what it did for real estate. ::)
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To: Borges

The mans a consumate bullsh!t artist and that won’t change untill he dies.

I’ve often thought he could have been huge in the Democrat party if he wasn’t completely insane.


9 posted on 11/13/2009 1:35:41 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: Borges

from the grave of Sharon Tate...

D E A T H - P E N A L T Y


10 posted on 11/13/2009 1:38:27 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Unseal the lock box containing every document pertaining to Obama's life, TODAY!)
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To: Borges
...the man he believes possesses deep insight into environmental issues...

In the same sense that Jeffrey Dahmer had deep insight into gastronomy.

11 posted on 11/13/2009 1:40:30 PM PST by denydenydeny (The Left sees taxpayers the way Dr Frankenstein saw the local cemetery; raw material for experiments)
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To: Borges

Should have been executed decades ago.


12 posted on 11/13/2009 1:41:04 PM PST by Hegemony Cricket (The emperor has no pedigree.)
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To: traderrob6
I’ve often thought he could have been huge in the Democrat party if he wasn’t completely insane.

Since when was sanity a requirement?

13 posted on 11/13/2009 1:41:35 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Borges

Manson is only able to “influence” dips, losers, psychos and gutless frauds like himself. And add to that the rest of the MSM!!


14 posted on 11/13/2009 1:43:41 PM PST by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: Cementjungle

“Since when was sanity a requirement?”

About 5-7% is all that’s required to go far.


15 posted on 11/13/2009 1:46:24 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: Borges

I wonder if grey wolf is Al Gore?


16 posted on 11/13/2009 1:47:15 PM PST by marstegreg
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To: traderrob6

I’ve often thought he could have been huge in the Democrat party if he wasn’t completely insane.
____________________________________________________

Not if you’re referring to the current one. ;-) He’s fit right in!


17 posted on 11/13/2009 1:48:04 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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To: Borges

...he’s supposedly the richest inmate in that unit from the money he’s made off selling his autographs....and BTW, I notice he’s sporting a cocaine thumb nail on his left hand...what’s that about?!!


18 posted on 11/13/2009 1:48:30 PM PST by STONEWALLS
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To: Hegemony Cricket
I can't recall why he wasn't. I remember arguing in school that he should be given a quick date with the hangman, along with his accomplices.

That was back in the days when the hippies were preaching global cooling, an equally stupid theory to today's global warming which postulated that we were headed for a new ice age because carbon emissions from industry was blocking the sun and the only way to save the planet was to turn over economic management to the eco-Marxists.

19 posted on 11/13/2009 1:48:59 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Borges

Read the comments in the link. Pathetic sheep over there.


20 posted on 11/13/2009 1:50:10 PM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: San Jacinto
What's really criminal, they say, is the way the environment is being poisoned.

The problem is the atmosphere is dying, anything that sins against the air is a sin against your life, anybody that sins against the air should be considered a criminal and any sin against the air should be considered a crime," Manson said in a recorded phone conversation.

Seems to be a shared belief among criminals. Manson hasn't shown remorse for being responsible for wiping out nearly a dozen people. Politicians aren't too concerned about wiping out the American economy and sinking the republic.l Oh, but they all agree on the environment. Give me a stinking break.

21 posted on 11/13/2009 2:00:12 PM PST by oyez ( damnant quod non intelligunt)
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To: Hegemony Cricket

Should have been executed decades ago

Never happen, the Dems need his vote.


22 posted on 11/13/2009 2:04:49 PM PST by bikerman (Buck Farack)
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To: oyez
What's really criminal, they say, is the way the environment is being poisoned.

The problem is the atmosphere is dying, anything that sins against the air is a sin against your life, anybody that sins against the air should be considered a criminal and any sin against the air should be considered a crime," Manson said in a recorded phone conversation.

I think he's just using environmentalism as a way of getting parole. If he was really smart, he'd throw a sentence or two about hating George W. Bush. That would almost guarantee an early release.

23 posted on 11/13/2009 2:05:16 PM PST by Repealthe17thAmendment (Is this field required?)
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To: BigEdLB
"He isn’t dead yet?"
24 posted on 11/13/2009 2:27:47 PM PST by StormEye
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To: oyez

“Manson hasn’t shown remorse for being responsible for wiping out nearly a dozen people.”

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Yeah he is somewhat responsible, but I’m not a big fan of the influence over others argument.

The responsibility for the actual carnage those two nights in descending order:

Watson
Atkins
Krenwinkel
Van Houten
Manson


25 posted on 11/13/2009 2:35:01 PM PST by EyeGuy
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To: Borges
What's really criminal, they say, is the way the environment is being poisoned.

Yes indeed.

We need to reduce the US population by, oh, say, 65 million.

Coincidentally, this is the same number that voted for Obama.

Come one, Obamabots, do the right thing, for the Earth...


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

26 posted on 11/13/2009 2:44:36 PM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: Borges

How nutty do you have to be to move across country to be near a felon who is sentenced to life that you have never met before? YIKES!


27 posted on 11/13/2009 3:07:44 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: DoughtyOne
from the grave of Sharon Tate...

D E A T H - P E N A L T Y

..............and her baby's.

28 posted on 11/14/2009 12:55:56 AM PST by Bellflower (If you are left DO NOT take the mark of the beast and be damned forever.)
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To: Borges
I have felt that what the Charles Manson gang did in some way was a sacrificial rite to Satan which Satan used to release hordes of demons upon the earth. Charles Manson was one of the first people to be really nuts about the ecology which has been turned into a global false religion.

Manson was honored by the leftist terror group The Weatherman Underground headed by Ayers and his awful wife Dohrn, friends of Obama. The WU held their hands up with their fingers out in such a way as to give the "sign of the fork" as a group symbol.This was to glorify the fact that Cheryl Tate was stabbed repeatedly with a fork.

Manson once said that millions would yet die. When he said that I believe it was a demon speaking directly through him as to plans to murder millions of decent people. It even will be carried out during the second half of the tribulation. Those who do not worship the antiChrist and take the mark of the beast will die in large number.

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/obama-only-one-weather-underground-connection :

At a 1969 "War Council" in Flint, Michigan, Weatherman leader Bernardine Dohrn (currently a law professor at Northwestern University and a Board member of the ACLU) praised the serial murderer Charles Manson and his accomplices: "Dig it. First they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them. They even shoved a fork into the victim's stomach. Wild." She then proclaimed that the time had come to launch a war against "Amerikkka" (Weatherman always spelled "America" this way, to convey the group's belief that the nation was ineradicably racist to its core). Toward this end, Dohrn advocated the formation of an even more radical "Weather Underground" cult to carry out covert terrorist activities rather than public acts of protest. By early 1970, her wish would be realized.

29 posted on 11/14/2009 2:02:47 AM PST by Bellflower (If you are left DO NOT take the mark of the beast and be damned forever.)
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To: Sir Gawain
Read the comments in the link. Pathetic sheep over there.

No kidding! It is actually unbelievable that such sick twisted people are out there in such numbers as to find their way to that post. Like one person said if Manson wasn't locked up they would be fodder for his cause.

30 posted on 11/14/2009 2:16:57 AM PST by Bellflower (If you are left DO NOT take the mark of the beast and be damned forever.)
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To: Bellflower

Is global warming an issue in hell?


31 posted on 11/14/2009 2:28:49 AM PST by monocle
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To: Bellflower

Very good... exactly!


32 posted on 11/14/2009 12:25:46 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Unseal the lock box containing every document pertaining to Obama's life, TODAY!)
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To: monocle
Is global warming an issue in hell?

Every person is designed with a need to worship built right into their hardware for the purpose of worshiping The LORD. Whenever Satan can co opt the necessity for one to worship to any other than the LORD he knows that that person is not going to make it into heaven. Only by worshiping The True and Living LORD will one ever make it into heaven and avoid the fires of hell forever.

Jhn 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto The Father, but by me.

33 posted on 11/14/2009 1:12:20 PM PST by Bellflower (If you are left DO NOT take the mark of the beast and be damned forever.)
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To: Bellflower

?


34 posted on 11/14/2009 1:22:30 PM PST by monocle
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To: traderrob6

“I’ve often thought he could have been huge in the Democrat party if he wasn’t completely insane.”

Jim Jones was popular in the Dem circles until that one unfortunate incident.


35 posted on 11/14/2009 1:29:37 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Waste and fraud are synonymous with gov't spending)
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To: monocle
Are you not aware that saving the earth has become a religion to new agers. They love “mother earth”. Their passion and thoughts are constantly directed to what they can do to save “mother earth”. The earth is what they have come to worship. Rather than worshiping The Creator, they worship His creation. This is not by accident but it is calculated and driven by demon inspired "educators" at the direction of Satan.

Satan wants to keep everyone that he can from having The LORD as the center of their purpose and worship. If he can divert peoples adoration and focus to anything other than The LORD God he knows that he has caused that person to be lost forever. They must repent and turn to The Living God as their center and purpose if they are to live righteously and forever.

What people do not realize as they go about living their everyday lives as though they were going to live forever without living for The LORD God is that there is a battle in the heavenly for there souls. Satan is possessed with the desire to take as many people as he can with him into perdition. He has an army of demons that are dedicated to destroying souls. They do their work on largely a subconscious level as they work to keep people blinded to the truth of God. A much used tactic is to keep people's attention, desires and passions on anything that will keep their focus from the peril of their sinful souls.

If he can keep the minds and hearts of especially the young and searching enmeshed in the things of the world he has won a large part of his battle. That is the real reason for many of the things that are going on in the world. It is to keep people distracted from their real peril and also the purpose that they were created, which is to bring pleasure to their Creator.

It is the job of the enlightened to pray for, love and warn the lost as to their condition. It is truly an act of love to demonstrate a desire to help others find the truth of their Creator, which is Jesus Christ and Him crucified for the sins of the world.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

36 posted on 11/14/2009 10:45:11 PM PST by Bellflower (If you are left DO NOT take the mark of the beast and be damned forever.)
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To: Borges
At 75, Charles Manson still has power to influence others

Oh horsesh-t.

37 posted on 11/14/2009 10:47:10 PM PST by Snurple (VEGETARIAN, OLD INDIAN WORD FOR BAD HUNTER.)
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