Posted on 11/14/2009 5:13:37 AM PST by MindBender26
Ten high-profile Guantanamo Bay detainees are being transferred to face justice in the United States. The five detainees heading to civilian court in New York to face charges they orchestrated the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks are:
-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who admitted to interrogators that he was the mastermind of the attacks. He allegedly proposed the concept to Osama bin Laden as early as 1996, obtained funding for the attacks from bin Laden, oversaw the operation and trained the hijackers in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
-Waleed bin Attash,
-Ramzi Binalshibh, a Yemeni, allegedly helped find flight schools for the hijackers.
-Ali Abd al-Aziz Ali, also known as Ammar Al-Baluchi, allegedly helped nine of the hijackers travel to the United States and paid them $120,000.
-Mustafa Ahmad al-Hawsawi, a Saudi, allegedly helped the hijackers with money, Western clothing, traveler's checks and credit cards.
The five headed for military commissions in the United States on a variety of terrorism charges are:
-Omar Khadr, born in Toronto, who was 15 when captured after allegedly killing an American soldier during a 2002 battle in Afghanistan.
-Ahmed Mohammed al-Darbi, who says American troops subjected him to beatings, excruciating shackling, painfully loud music, isolation and threats of rape.
-Ibrahim Ahmed Mahmoud al Qosi, who is accused of acting as al-Qaida's accountant, paymaster and supply chief.
-Noor Uthman Muhammed, who is allegedly a member of al-Qaida, trained at a camp in Afghanistan and later become a weapons instructor.
-Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri is the alleged mastermind of the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole.
(Excerpt) Read more at military.com ...
The defense lawyers, paid for by you and me, will do it for him as part of their defense. All in open court, before one of the very liberal Carter-era NY judges.
All very public, all very well covered by the MSM.
Hell hath no fury like a country scorned. 2010!
If you thought the OJ trial was bad...
Obama is moving so fast on so many fronts... will here be a 2010?
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This is tyranny.
These people are enemies of our republic and their warfare is being treated as legitimate by this administration.
I figure that money for attorneys plays a heavy role in this decision.
And, since the Illegal Alien and his accomplices really want to try President Bush and the CIA, the Assistant U. S. Attorneys who're assigned to try these cases won't really have their hearts in their jobs and are likely to make "mistakes" that will get us OJ judges and OJ jurors. That being true, none of the cases, including the KSM one, is any more an assured conviction than the OJ case was.
Hate for America only a non-American could have.
I think that the little girls in congress who are doing what they are told are going to become a little scared of being jobless. The healthcare vote barely squeeked by. If we put even more pressure on them, they will break. As we witnessed many times before, these guys are looking out for their own skin.
That’s right. While Americans were celebrating Independence day year after year, eating hot dogs, apple pie and letting off firecrackers, Obama was in a mosque in Indonesia during his formative years.
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I think the real question is whether or not Obama will be around in 2010. People are getting tired of being ignored.
People are going to get so incredibly fed up with the forum that this will give islametards and their "kill Americans" talking points. The defense lawyers will make everybody want to puke. Here comes Ron Kuby!
It's going to go bad in a million ways for this idiot. And it's going to make the common dopes on the fence realize how sick to death of this appeasement crap they really are. They'll be begging for a return to the normal "kill the bastards" mentality in the war on terrorism.
Palin/Gitmo 2012.
Holder announced it on a friday after Hussein had bugged out of the country. The neocoms in the WH know they are vulnerable on this issue. We need to keep hammering them on it.
I hope and PRAY that a couple of good folks @ the CIA drop some docs soon. I bet they have a lot on this current administration.
Since they’ll need round the clock protection and be under 24hr surveillance I’d recommend they stay at the White House with their Muslim pal.
Pay attention to Eric Holder’s law firm and Gitmo detainees By Michelle Malkin • January 23, 2009
Eric Holder is a senior partner with Covington & Burling, a prestigious Washington, D.C. law firm, which represents 17 Yemenis currently held at Gitmo.
The fact that Mr. Holder, while Deputy Attorney General, pushed for the release of 16 violent FALN terrorists against the advice of the FBI, the US Attorneys who prosecuted them and the NYPD officers who were maimed
I wonder if congress could challenge this. It puts the country at risk.
I saw this info this morning and I was wondering how they multiplied to 10 overnight.
What a sneaky POS...make that pural. Holder and his boss.
It can’t come soon enough!!!!!!!!! GOD PLEASE HELP US... is my very SINCERE PRAYER!
So the obvious question [and we already know the answer] is why can’t we try them all one way or another? What criterion was used to decide how each would be tried?
New York, prepare to be attacked again...
Just as Obama starts an 8-day foreign tour, not around to answer stateside Media questions ...
call back our military to defend the Constitution from these enemies within
Didn’t England try the London subway bombers in regular court?
Does anybody know more about this?
This will take years.....could a new AG drop civilian charges in Jan. of ‘13 and accept their guilty plea in military court ?
I bet they could if they raised a big enough stink. It would require the webs, talk radio, some backbone from Pubbies, and the slightest bit of cooperation from old media. Odds are they could get it all, since even New Yorkers are sure to be furious with this.
Obie and Holder have really overreached again.
The costs for the liberal elite lawyers and other costs should be paid by the DNC and 0b0z0’s re election fund.
Bush was hobbled by his lack of nads and ergo by his own wussiness. He could have stood up at ANY time and made his case to the American public on any number of crap attacks he endured from the leftists. He could have explained to the intelligence-challenged and mentally impaired liberals that it was a matter of national security. But noooooo! He let us down just AS his dad did.
Ping.
There was an endless cycle of appeals to the higher courts, rulings in the terrorists favor by liberal judges which required congress to pass new laws which they did, and then more appeals.
Totally agree. Turn up the heat on all members of Congress on this issue + health care + spending. They will break with a little more pressure and mounting unemployment.
Just all part of Obama’s deliberate and calculated strategy to destroy U.S. power.
So far, all of his plans are working perfectly, thank you very much. Of course, that’s no great feat, as it is so very much easier to destroy something than to build it. For instance, the difference in effort to build the World Trade Towers versus crashing a couple of airplanes into them.
At this point, the Obamaites are busily crashing a fleet of airplanes into U.S structures on purpose. And Nancy Pelosi and her flock of clueless Democrats have signed up to be pilots.
I agree. He let them beat him down, we all saw it.
So, just how good are these computer guided cruise missiles
Notice all this Gitmo crap waited until after the election (albeit few).
Hoffman would have run away with the election if these announcements came two weeks ago.
Notice all this Gitmo crap waited until after the election (albeit few).
Hoffman would have run away with the election if these announcements came two weeks ago.
Yes, the UK subway bombers were tried in the UK. They were caught there.
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So you concern is not about our safety, but about a technicality? Or do you think the English people are not at risk with those individuals in jail?
The 3 UK subway bombers were tried twice — first a hung jury and then an acquittal — but 2 were convicted of the lesser charge of “conspiring to attend a terrorist training camp”.
On a Friday after the 5 pm news and after everyone was at a football game (we won!) or elsewhere. He's proven his m.o. and we need to take note. Ten detainees this week, a few more next week, and he'll have Gitmo empty and closed down by Independence Day... Didn't say America's independence day...
Talk about your conflict of interest.
This ain’t England.
I get it...but how are they justifying some having military trials and some not? They’ve got to be giving some reason...specifically WHY they are all NOT being given military trials.
After the Gitmo monsters' attorney ask for a change of venue, dismissal of all charges due to denied speedy trials/failure to mirandize/various technicalities, horrendous torture while in custody, demand for live tv coverage of trials denied, big bad US' investigative techniques, charges against the military/Bush/America, and on and on and on after years and years and years, the same will result here - hung juries and acquittals followed by full citzenship and pilot licenses and the keys to the WH.
It’s not “all” because this is just the first group. Hussein gets this group off and then it’s easy sailing for the rest. End of Gitmo. End of the US.
I hope that if someone has been keeping track of everything he’s done since taking office, that this outrageous decision is added to the list.
If there is such a list...can someone post a link?
If trying KSM as a civilian is such a great idea, why not try them all the same way ?
Conversely. if military tribunals are sufficient for five, why not for all ten of them ?
Just some political BS to appease his critics on the left ?
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