Posted on 11/14/2009 5:30:33 AM PST by gridlock
CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP), a panel made up of medical and public health experts, met July 29, 2009, to make recommendations on who should receive the 2009 H1N1 vaccine While some issues are still unknown, such as how severe the flu season, the ACIP considered several factors, including current disease patterns, populations most at-risk for severe illness based on current trends in illness, hospitalizations and deaths, how much vaccine is expected to be available, and the timing of vaccine availability.
The groups recommended to receive the 2009 H1N1 influenza vaccine include:
Pregnant Women because they are at higher risk of complications and can potentially provide protection to infants who cannot be vaccinated;
Household Contacts and Caregivers for children younger than 6 months of age because younger infants are at higher risk of influenza-related complications and cannot be vaccinated. Vaccination of those in close contact with infants younger than 6 months old might help protect infants by “cocooning” them from the virus;
Healthcare and Emergency Medical Services Personnel because infections among healthcare workers have been reported and this can be a potential source of infection for vulnerable patients;
All People from 6 Months Through 24 Years of Age Children from 6 months through 18 years of age because cases of 2009 H1N1 influenza have been seen in children who are in close contact with each other in school and day care settings, which increases the likelihood of disease spread, and Young adults 19 through 24 years of age because many cases of 2009 H1N1 influenza have been seen in these healthy young adults and they often live, work, and study in close proximity, and they are a frequently mobile population; and,
Persons Aged 25 Through 64 Years Who Have Health Conditions associated with higher risk of medical complications from influenza.
(Excerpt) Read more at cdc.gov ...
So, if you are a young and productive taxpayer, aged 25 to 64, you are protected...
Or if you are a union-dues paying healthcare professional, you are protected...
If you are a child of a taxpayer, and a future taxpayer yourself, you are protected...
If you are a college age Obama voter, you are protected...
But if you are a retiree, over the age of 64, you are left out in the cold to die. This is the population that is most likely to die from the disease, but the CDC is using the vaccine on the young and healthy. They are saying that it is more important to protect a 22-year-old from a couple of weeks in a sickbed than it is to protect a 72-year-old from death.
Can anybody look at this priority list and not see our future under rationed Obamacare? This is the government priority list, printed in black and white, and yet AARP is all aboard the Obamacare Express, because they got their payoffs.
H1N1 death rates are highest in children and young adults.
The only way these recommendations make sense is if a lesser value is placed on the lives of the elderly, because they are far more likely to suffer and die from this disease.
H1N1 has already swept through most major cities. All of my family currently recovering from NOT having a vaccine. Thank you government for your usual efficiency!
Because I am 65, I also took great notice of the fact that the highest death rate is among the elderly. AARP should be screaming to the highest hill BUT they get billions from the insurance industry....shhhhh....don’t tell.
That's because everybody who dies of it over the age of 64 is dying of "Old Age".
Did you know that every death in a British National Health Service of a person over 55 years old is ascribed to "Old Age", regardless of the cause?
Hmmm, I wonder if this is the start of death panels excluding the elderly?
What ever happened to age discrimination???
The AARP has sold out their membership for a huge payday. When the Medicare Advantage program is cut, AARP will make Billions of Dollars selling supplemental insurance.
There has been a mention of some residual immunity in people who had some of the flu strains years ago.
Whereas I know as well as anyone else that they intend to kill us 65+ off, everyone I know over 65 who has had it lived, and recovered mostly in a week, with the usual flu lingering aftereffects, but they did not consider it that big a deal. That does not mean they enjoyed it, of course.
They're from the Government, and they're here to help you.
They'll just exempt themselves from all those pesky laws you have to follow every day.
Every child I know who has gotten it has recovered in a week, as well. Deaths are still a rare outcome, for all populations. But that does not mean it will not get a lot worse.
They will instruct the media and the CDC to post what the people want to hear and they will control the vaccine in areas and populations they deem important to thier cause. REDISTRIBUTION! Who are the priority target groups? really...
They will instruct the media and the CDC to post what the people want to hear and they will control the vaccine in areas and populations they deem important to thier cause. REDISTRIBUTION! Who are the priority target groups? really...
The data says that immunizations prior to 2005 and age >50 are both (relatively) protective.
There's excellent data from Australia, where the actual date of introduction is known and where the winter is now over, that confirms the increased mortality among the young, relative to over-50s.
sorry, itchy trigger finger, ha!
My understanding is that this strain is similar to one that elderly have already been exposed to many moons ago. Chances are they have antibodies for H1N1 already existing in their blood.
All I know is i got received the normal flu vaccination and got sick a few weeks later.
I’ll take my chances with the flu, if it comes. I don’t trust vaccines.
So far I don’t know a single person in my life who has had swine flu or for that matter the regular seasonal flu. All my family members take lots of odorless garlic supplements as well as other supplements like antioxidants, we wash our hands frequently (a habit) and the 7 of us haven’t been sick with flu or colds in years.
Sorry, Jim. I simply don’t believe the government on this one. Your a bright guy and I respect you, but I simply don’t buy it.
They have their priorities, that they have demonstrated over and over again. And now this hand-waving argument about residual immunity is exactly congruent with their stated priorities.
When something fits that neatly, and when the same outfits who have the priority are controlling the data, I just do not believe them, anymore.
Look at the Global Warming farce if you want another example. The priority is to redistribute wealth and cut US consumption, and all of the so-called data just happens to support that priority. I just don’t buy it.
The government will always come up with some semi-plausible reason they are cutting off seniors from healthcare. They will never say “Because We Can”, and leave it at that. But at the end of the day, they are doing it because they can.
Your = You’re
The classic FReeper typo...
How long ago was this mythic kinda-swine-flu that a 64 year old has residual antibodies, but a 54 year old requires vaccination?
Couldn't it simply be that the 54-year-old is at the height of his taxpaying years and the 64-year-old is a net burden on the government?
Are we talking about residual immunity from a flu outbreak in 1945, 64 years ago?
That’s a whole heck of a lot of moons ago...
I know 2 people who have had a serious case of flu in the last month. They both say they were the sickest they have ever been in their lives. I have seen one of them and by the way she looked, thin, gaunt, lines in her face, fever blisters, I’d say that she was correct.
I am avoiding crowds, washing out my sinuses with saline, gargling with hydrogen peroxide and praying that I stay well.
But I've been up to my neck in H1N1 since the third week in April, and, I can tell you, the reversed age distribution is real. I have excellent contacts in Australia and their data shows the same thing.
When this event is over, there will be time to evaluate the performance of the political branches in this matter - and it isn't going to be pretty.
So, while your reflexive distrust is well-founded, my experience and my contacts say you're wrong on the age question.
Good luck with your protocol. :)
I received this year's seasonal flu vaccine before that ran out, and I'm (well) over 30, so I'm not losing any sleep over not getting the H1N1 vaccine myself.
BTW my daughter is working on a master's degree at a medical school and they requested 120,000 doses of the vaccine. Last I checked they said they had received 1000 doses. My daughter has not received the H1N1 vaccine. The CDC can recommend that health workers get the vaccine, and gov't can even insist on it, but if the vaccine isn't available there isn't any way to do it.
If it were the Republicans in charge of this mess, we'd be hearing about it 24/7 but since it's the 'rats we don't hear much of anything. This could be Katrina x 10 or Katrina x 100 by the end of the flu season.
I suspect that the reason a lot of elderly are not more upset about this is because a distrust of the vaccine.
We are getting to a point where the government is so incompetent and/or hostile that most folks just don’t trust them anymore.
The beginning of Obama’s Rationed Medicine & DEATH PANELS:
Here’s who can have the medicine and here’s who has lived long enough and should just die.
Take off your tin foil hat and try doing a little research before sounding stupid. Unlike the seasonal flu, which hits seniors the hardest, people over the age 64 are significantly less likely to contract H1N1 and when they do, the effects are relatively mild. This is because older people have been exposed to swine flu several times in their life and as a result, their immune system is already prepared to fight the virus.
If 0bama and the CDC really wanted to kill old people, they would withhold the seasonal flu shot from seniors, because most of the people who die from the seasonal flu are age 64 or older. In fact, by your logic, 0bama is trying to kill people between the ages of 20 and 50 because the CDC only recommends the seasonal flu shot for people in this age group if they are health professionals, have a serious underlying health problem, or live or provide care to the people in the target groups.
Don't misunderstand -- I despise 0bama as much as the next Freeper, and I blame him personally for the shortage of both the H1N1 and seasonal flu shots, just like the main stream media blamed Bush personally for the shortage of the seasonal flu shot back in 2005. But to accuse 0bama of trying to kill old people based soley upon the CDC guidelines for administering the H1N1 vaccine is just plain stupid.
That, and “loose = lose”...
People... There can be, and will be NO PANDEMIC if you don't roll up your sleeves and let those jerks inject you with their own genetically engineered disease. You must cooperate for it to happen. Will you heed what I am saying?
Thanks.
Well, yes except while you may be in a high risk area, the amount of vaccine available does not reach that group till after, perhaps, Jan 1st.
Apparently the first groups to receive vaccine en masse were Goldman Sacks employees and the prisoners at Gitmo.
If Bush were in charge, this “catastophe” would be on the front page of every paper and begin every MSM newscast each night along with hourly bulletins. With the OZero in charge, not a peep.
Vince
This might be a stretch, but what if the intent is to increase the possibility of death in the groups mentioned, instead of protecting them against the disease. There have been whispers for years about population control methods. (Just thinking out loud...)
The priority for the shots has been determined by risk, and only because of limited doses available at one time. In Canada, there is only one manufacturer of the vaccine (unbelievable). The medical recommendation for the priorities is based on risk. Those of us over 64 have supposedly been exposed to more strains of flu and are at lower risk of infection. However, we are at higher risk of dying if we get it. Hello there!!! maybe we should be a little higher on the list.
My sister's doctor (in Kentucky) recommended a pneumonia shot. Makes a lot of sense to me since the deaths in elderly are from respiratory complications. My husband and I both got one.
I WOULD SUGGEST EVERYONE WHO CAN, GET A PNEUMONIA SHOT!!!
As much as I detest (and fear) what Obama is doing to my America, this swine flu vaccine fiasco is not his and has nothing to do with his health care nightmare. Most, if not all, countries are using pretty much the same priorities. I believe one of the problems is that after being manufactured, the vaccine can only be kept for a short period, so it couldn't be stockpiled.
Hopefully, we will all get through this, and the powers that be will learn from their mistakes (HAHAHAHAHAHAHA).
What happened to the whole thing about telling people not to get vaccines because they’re so dangerous? Wouldn’t old people be the lucky ones who aren’t being killed by the government with the vaccine?
Supposedly older people already have some immunity and are less susceptible to dying from complications from H1N1. Older people can qualify to get a pneumonia shot, which also reduces death from flu (supposedly). If you really get your tin foil hat on and start researching, more older people who get flu shots die than those who don’t get flu shots.
My family recently had a bout with H1N1. My two year old’s case was mild. My husband’s case was like the flu, but not the worst flu he’s ever had. My mom had it and it was like a bad cold. My dad didn’t even catch it at all. I am pregnant and had to take Tamiflu, which for me was like having the flu without the mucus because the side effects are bad. Both of my parents got pneumonia shots. We all had regular flu shots earlier in the season.
A 22 year old otherwise healthy pregnant woman died very near me, of pneumonia from confirmed H1N1, that same week that my family had H1N1.
I got the H1N1 vaccine shortly afterward and had no ill effects. My arm wasn’t even nearly as sore as with a typical flu shot.
My 15 year old son can’t get the vaccine. He hasn’t made it to the priority list at my pediatrician’s yet.
I already got mine at my doctor because of my asthma.
My daughter with epilepsy and a brain injury was the first one to get the vaccine. Then my daughter with asthma got hers.
Our county is also having free clinics where they are giving the vaccines out to “high risk” people, but they just have to say they are high risk to get one.
In Santa Clara county, the uninsured, illegals are getting their vaccines before the insured, legal residents.
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