Posted on 11/14/2009 1:43:27 PM PST by Former Military Chick
The House-approved healthcare overhaul would raise the costs of healthcare by $289 billion over the next 10 years, according to an analysis by the nonpartisan, independent Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS).
The long-awaited report sent to lawmakers late Friday by the Department of Health and Human Services should serve as a "stark warning to every Republican, Democrat and Independent worried about the future of this nation," Ways and Means ranking member Dave Camp (R-Mich.) said in a statement on Saturday.
Though House Republicans pressed to have this analysis completed before the lower chamber voted on the Democrats' sweeping healthcare reform bill last week, it was not ready until late Friday.
Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) highlighted the report on Saturday in a written statement. "This report once again discredits Democrats’ assertions that their $1.3 trillion government takeover of health care will lower costs, and it confirms that this bill violates President Obama’s promise to ‘bend the cost curve.’ It’s now beyond dispute that their bill will raise costs, which is exactly what the American people don’t want."
Republicans predicted that if the CMS numbers were available last Saturday when the House voted on Speaker Nancy Pelosi's healthcare bill, the slim majority that supported the measure 220-215 could have been reversed.
“This report confirms what virtually every independent expert has been saying: Speaker Pelosi’s health care bill will increase costs, not decrease them. I hope my colleagues in the Senate heed CMS’ findings and refuse to rush ahead until any bill under consideration can be certified to actually reduce health care costs," Camp said.
So to Democrats, a $300 billion dollar increase in spending is “savings”?
Plus everybody knows the Dems have underestimated costs by a factor of six. (based on other gov’t programs)
true words, of course this is released on Friday so what is the coverage remains to be seen
The democrat leadership will have none of this dissension. Shut your mouth and take your medicine, citizen.
For a real world estimate of what it would cost, just look at Medicare where the cost is $12,000 per person per year. The plan the Rats passed would eventually cover about 100 million people. $12,000 X 100 million = $1.2 TRILLION PER YEAR.
Actually, yes. When you're tossing around trillions for "stimulus" and "bailouts" and lord knows what else, a mere $300 billion is like chump change for them.
Yep because their VOODOO math says that Health Care costs are doubling every year so they can now claim that if they only increase quarterly every year that is an overall savings.
It is the same B.S. ploy used to hypnotize the ignorant in America.
THEY LIE>>>>>>>>> THEY LIE>>>>>> THEY LIE>>>>>>
And Obama is worried about the cost of the troops to protect our force. The man is as close to a jackal as anyone I have ever seen.
Close?
I think Pelosi would have gotten the votes by hook and by crook. Yes, the report would have caused constituents to amp up the pressure on their reps (representatives) to vote no, but in the end, the reps would have ignored it. The reps were willing to ignore that pressure even in light of the election a couple weeks ago, so I don’t think this report would have changed anything. This bill was driven like a force of nature or weather. I don’t think anything except sheer numbers could have stopped it. Even if Hoffman had been elected and turncoat liar Cao had not turned, it still would have passed. There was no hesitation by Pelosi and her thugs to sacrifice some rat seats to get this bill passed. It will be such wonderful poetic justice if this flops in the senate and there is no bill.
Huh? Zero makes jackals look respectable by comparison.
Exactly and not one single reporter not one in the media has asked him to claify what is more important Mr. president to get the Healthcare bill done or to get it done right.
His insistance that this be done so he can wave it around as a political accomplishment is the Problem, the American people want something done but not this massive intrusion...
So whats more important getting something done? Or getting it done right...
Heck the thing doesn’t even go in effect for 4 years...
I bet he already has it written in to his SOTU address...
With that said, the abortion/right to life issue just may blow this bill out of the congress. The women who are ticked off that the Stupak amendment outdid the right to abortion movement has angered that segment of the progressive caucus.
I believe many will go beyond rhetoric and vote against the bill if the Stupak amendment remains, so it is possible that either caucus could bring this bill to a “don't pass go, do not receive 200.00”.
The progressives, the liberals, the conservative democrat's they are fighting amongst themselves and whoa nelly it is so much better than fighting with the republicans or the republican's fighting amongst themselves.
I think I am just going to make some popcorn and pull up a chair there is going to be one hell of a show on the other side of the aisle.
~FMC
CMS is already costing untold dollars in some of the regulations that are now in effect. Somebody is getting paid big bucks to think up more paperwork which takes time away from patient care.
We need to vote into office independent experts from now on and screw the political party money shoveling machine.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus
But, when it comes to the issues of the American people he has a tin ear, it is obvious they do not look at the polls, if they did they would realize that they are losing independents, the American folks are more conservative and liberals are only about 20% of the American population.
If I saw these number's I would think long and hard about what it is this country needs, not what the democrat's or more importantly the progressives want.
The progressives argue, we have the congress and the White House and damned if we haven't waited 4 decades to get these issues near and dear to the progressives passed but Obama was elected with moderates and independents AND he is losing them by the numbers every day.
You are right health care doesn't go into effect for 4 years, but taxes start once the bill is signed, and the final bill wont be fully operational for 10 years.
I know I would risk more seats as a conservative/republican but I have tell you I want this country to have jobs, the economy to improve the dollar to have more value and if those improved Obama might get the credit in the next election.
But, my fellow Americans lives are at stake.
Obama needs to hunker down in the WH, start solving the big issues of the country that are immediate, deciding to support our troops in Afghanistan and perhaps passing small less threatening health care reform that would be more tolerable to the American people.
Again thank you for the excellent post.
~FMC
It would have been great if the vote failed, but since they held the vote, all these Dems are going to face brutal town halls over the Thanksgiving and Christmas break over their votes.
Great idea, sign me up. BTW, go to see your post, thanks.
~FMC
“Though House Republicans pressed to have this analysis completed before the lower chamber voted on the Democrats’ sweeping healthcare reform bill last week, it was not ready until late Friday.”
It’s not a healthcare reform bill. It’s a bill that will abuse both the healthcare system and the actual medical health of individual citizens, thus it is a Health Abuse bill.
You have more faith in the wisdom of sub rosa communists than I do.
It is amazing if you do a word search on the last health care bill that was passed in the house the word “physician” is used 27 times.
Do you or anyone else find something so fundamentally wrong with a bill that has “health” in the title but has little input from doctor's across the country. (even if the AMA says they support the bill, I have serious doubts of their truth when it comes to their entire membership)
Of course it will. It was never about bringing down the costs down. They could do that with one easy step. Insurance can be bought across state lines. THAT is the main thing that keeps costs up. The insurance companies know they have you right where they want you. You can’t shop around.
It’s a power grab, see my tag line.
I'm willing to wager that this psycho dreams of the day when he can stand on a marble reviewing stand he has had built beside the paved over Washington Mall and watches his racially sorted Civilian Militia march by waving torches...
They don’t care cuz they don’t have to pay it - we will (if passed).
As this came out on a Saturday, we should repost on Monday so more people will be able to read it.
great idea, it is also in the Politico and I did send a link to Drudge not sure if it is important enough for his webpage
“...not sure if it is important enough for his webpage...”
Should be.
bump
I really don’t want to pay for dead beats. I don’t want to pay for preexisting fat people with diabetes . I don’t want to pay for illegal aliens who can’t even read or speak English. I plan to to go to American doctors in Mexico and Costa Rica and never pay these bastard a dime.
After We the People, doctors are the last ones the liberals in congress want to have input. Just like health care is the last thing they’re considering as they write this monstrous, abusive bill.
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