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News Watch Shout-Out To FReeper Governsleast On Obama Failure To Defend Hiroshima Nuking
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 11/15/2009 4:55:55 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

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1 posted on 11/15/2009 4:55:55 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; netmilsmom; Diogenesis; MEG33; PGalt; ...

FNC’s Jim Pinkerton gives me a shout-out for story on Obama’s refusal to defend US nuking of Hiroshima. Ping to Today show list.


2 posted on 11/15/2009 4:57:02 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Conservative criticism of the liberal media: www.finkelblog.com)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Dumb question here... were other sitting presidents asked this question? If so, how did they respond?


3 posted on 11/15/2009 5:00:00 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
WTG, Mark. Keep holding his feet to the fire, though it seems he has asbestos soles.

So why didn't he answer this? It's not like it requires original thinking (it's been asked of, and answered by, every President since Truman)?


4 posted on 11/15/2009 5:03:32 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
It brought about the surrender of Japan with the least loss to our side...

Why ask the question if the answer is already history.

5 posted on 11/15/2009 5:03:39 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I’m a big believer that dropping the bombs was very much the right thing to do.

However, this is the kind of situation where diplomacy requires you deflect the question in most all situations (we need modern Japan as a solid ally), and ESPECIALLY when you’re on their soil.

Now, I’m sure that even within these guidelines, Zero can screw things up.


6 posted on 11/15/2009 5:04:47 AM PST by Yossarian
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Congratulations — I saw/heard your ‘honorable mention’ twice (I’m an early riser, and caught the ‘insomnia rerun’, too...)

Now maybe you could use your new-found status to push NewsWatch to shame the rest of the Media (including, sadly FNC) into covering the *real* “Shout-out Heard ‘Round the World”.....

;)


7 posted on 11/15/2009 5:06:31 AM PST by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Truman was presented with estimates of from one to two million dead in an invasion of the home islands...he made the only decision he could.

The question in my mind has always been...why the second bomb? As least...why the second bomb so soon after the first?

That war needed to end...and in the long run Truman’s decision almost certainly saved lives on both sides.

Not surprised Obama doesn’t know this. Culturally, he’s not an American...he’s got a tin ear for our history.


8 posted on 11/15/2009 5:08:10 AM PST by kjo
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Possible reasons (not mutually exclusive BTW) Obama dodged the question...
9 posted on 11/15/2009 5:11:24 AM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (Rush on Obama: "immature, narcissistic and inexperienced")
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

WELL! Lets look at the bright side of the latest KENYAN SNAKEOIL SALESMAN’S ATROCITY! At least this time, the BOZO Kept his Soupy Sale’s Lookalike Mouth SHUT IN SILENCE!We expected the AMERICA HATER to declare Hiroshima and Nagasaki were WAR CRIMES and THAT He was going to Have AG ERIC HOLDER PRESS CHARGES AGAINST TRUMAN and All of the Responsible Military and Scientists Immediately!!! You can’t even use sarquasm with this IDIOT! No Imagination can keep pace with this Perpetual Train Wreck.....He is NOT QUALIFIED to supervise an Afternoon Shift for a Mc Donald’s Restaurant and we are stuck with him for another three devastating years...........:-O


10 posted on 11/15/2009 5:12:14 AM PST by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Great President George W. Bush!!)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Can we go for ‘D’: all of the above? ;-)


11 posted on 11/15/2009 5:13:07 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Conservative criticism of the liberal media: www.finkelblog.com)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

HOORAY Mark! Thanks to Jim Pinkerton for his follow-up comment!


12 posted on 11/15/2009 5:15:38 AM PST by PGalt
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
You hit the nail on the head.;-)
13 posted on 11/15/2009 5:16:27 AM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (Rush on Obama: "immature, narcissistic and inexperienced")
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Great work BTW, Mark!


14 posted on 11/15/2009 5:17:05 AM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (Rush on Obama: "immature, narcissistic and inexperienced")
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To: kjo

The Second Bomb was needed for the Shock and Intimidation Factor! The JAPS didn’t surrender after the First Bomb was dropped!! They grinned and believed there weren’t anymore where the first one came from!! Hah! We surprized them with the followup BIG BLAST! IT WORKED!! STOP MONDAY AFTERNOON QUARTERBACKING!! There’s Millions of NFL Monday Morning Quarterbacks, there are only 24 Real Quarterbacks on Sundays!


15 posted on 11/15/2009 5:18:44 AM PST by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Great President George W. Bush!!)
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To: kjo; All
Culturally, he’s not an American...

BUMP! (for you and the great posters on this thread.)

16 posted on 11/15/2009 5:19:25 AM PST by PGalt
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

AMEN! The Perfect, Socinct, To-The-Point Answer to OBOZO’S Banana Republic Agenda and Actions......:-)


18 posted on 11/15/2009 5:20:55 AM PST by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Great President George W. Bush!!)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies; All
[COWARDICE], [SOCIALISM], [NARCISSISM]

Well stated BUMP!

19 posted on 11/15/2009 5:21:40 AM PST by PGalt
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To: dalereed

I’d say that’s pretty harsh, coming from one FReeper to another. IMHO, ‘shout-out’ has crossed-over to the mainstream vernacular.


20 posted on 11/15/2009 5:24:11 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Conservative criticism of the liberal media: www.finkelblog.com)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Congrats. Keep up the good reporting that the State Run Media won’t touch.


21 posted on 11/15/2009 5:24:32 AM PST by McGruff (We're Going Rogue Baby!)
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To: dalereed

Lighten up Francis. Go take a cruise or something.


22 posted on 11/15/2009 5:25:43 AM PST by McGruff (We're Going Rogue Baby!)
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To: kjo

The Japanese leadership was a very stubborn case. One bomb didn’t convince them.


23 posted on 11/15/2009 5:28:18 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (LIBERTY)
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To: True Republican Patriot

there are only 24 Real Quarterbacks on Sundays!

The first part of your comments were spot on but the last remark left me wondering who you think is running the offense on the other 8? Nevermind the backups.


24 posted on 11/15/2009 5:30:03 AM PST by mazda77 (Rubio for US Senate)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Honestly I’m surprised he didn’t go over there to apologize. This is a first.


26 posted on 11/15/2009 5:33:40 AM PST by sunny48
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Alinsky Rules for Radicals

Rule 10:

The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative. Avoid being trapped by an opponent or an interviewer who says, “Okay, what would you do?”


27 posted on 11/15/2009 5:34:43 AM PST by maggief
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To: Sacajaweau
If he wanted to be diplomatic (he was in Japan, after all), he could have said:

“It brought about the surrender of Japan with the least loss to BOTH sides. In addition to hundred of thousands of US casualties, millions of Japanese would have died in the invasion that was sure to follow the tyrant Tojo's refusal to surrender.”

28 posted on 11/15/2009 5:35:40 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Freeper governsleastgovernsbest you make us proud! Congratulations, Good job and Thank you!


29 posted on 11/15/2009 5:58:05 AM PST by blueyon (It is worth taking a stand even if you are standing alone!)
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To: kjo

The first bomb didn’t bring about the surrender. The second one did!!


30 posted on 11/15/2009 5:58:18 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: blueyon; McGruff; SonOfDarkSkies; PGalt; Uncle Ike; Izzy Dunne

Many thanks for your kind comments. Hopefully the NewsBusters item helped get the word out on Obama’s pusillanimous performance!


31 posted on 11/15/2009 6:04:13 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Conservative criticism of the liberal media: www.finkelblog.com)
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To: mazda77

DETAILS!! So, I can’t count! obviously NOT a Football Expert! but so what, ADD the other 8 on and we have 32 REAL LIFE QUARTERBACKS! and Tens of Millions Monday Afternoon Quarterbacks! POINT PROVEN!!

Your point was correct and yet it is an LSD!!


32 posted on 11/15/2009 6:08:51 AM PST by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Great President George W. Bush!!)
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To: mazda77

Oh! I forgot to explain fully my count of 24...:-) One of the other eight I left out was intentional. I didn’t count McNABB in the Real Category, so I was only seven short. RUSH was 1000% Correct several years ago regarding McNABB. Everytime he screws up on the field, he thinks it is a Big Laugh and he has always been more interested in selling CAMPBELL SOUPS, than he has been actually playing the game....:-(


33 posted on 11/15/2009 6:14:24 AM PST by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Great President George W. Bush!!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Good JOB!

Since the Rathergate scandal FReepers like you have been doind the job that the Media should have been doing. You have added another nail to their coffin.


34 posted on 11/15/2009 6:18:43 AM PST by submarinerswife ("If I win I can't 't be stopped! If I lose I shall be dead." - George S. Patton)
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To: True Republican Patriot

Sorry Dude. It was a light hearted jab to an otherwise excellent post at an obvious Eagles fan. JUST KIDDING!


35 posted on 11/15/2009 6:19:25 AM PST by mazda77 (Rubio for US Senate)
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36 posted on 11/15/2009 6:39:03 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: pnh102

I know Truman was, I think he was asked how he slept at night and he said that he slept like a baby. I’m sure there was much more but that was the most memorable for me.


37 posted on 11/15/2009 6:50:29 AM PST by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: True Republican Patriot

“The JAPS didn’t surrender after the First Bomb was dropped!!”

Indeed..I remember.


38 posted on 11/15/2009 6:54:11 AM PST by MEG33 (God Bless Our Military Men And Women .God be with them as they heal.)
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To: Izzy Dunne; governsleastgovernsbest
WTG, Mark. Keep holding his feet to the fire, though it seems he has asbestos soles.

He has MSM soles, which are much more insulating than asbestos.

39 posted on 11/15/2009 7:11:54 AM PST by melancholy (Hey Marxists, don't Crap & Tread on me. Zer0's defeat is now in progress.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Way ta Go!

The more that FReepers get credit for breaking a solid News story and besting the LameStreamMedia the better.

40 posted on 11/15/2009 7:17:18 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: kjo
The question in my mind has always been...why the second bomb? As least...why the second bomb so soon after the first?

We were ready to use the second and last bomb in our inventory in case the Japanese didn't believe that we couldn't have any more bombs and "called our bluff."

As it turned out, had they called our bluff for the second time, they would have been right.

IMO, it was the right decision to use two bombs to convince the Japanese that the cost of not surrendering could have inflicted eventual annihilation.

41 posted on 11/15/2009 7:23:23 AM PST by melancholy (Hey Marxists, don't Crap & Tread on me. Zer0's defeat is now in progress.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
No sitting Japanese prime minister has visited Pearl Harbor or apologized for the surprise attack on Dec. 7, 1941, that drew the United States into war.

Source

42 posted on 11/15/2009 7:24:14 AM PST by Pan_Yan (All gray areas are fabrications.)
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Honestly I’m surprised he didn’t go over there to apologize. This is a first.

By ducking the question, He DID apologize!

43 posted on 11/15/2009 7:30:12 AM PST by melancholy (Hey Marxists, don't Crap & Tread on me. Zer0's defeat is now in progress.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

This is a bit off-topic, but on the topic of dropping the atomic bombs on Japan to end the war, I highly recommend a docudrama, “The Last Mission”, that was originally shown on The History Channel about 3 years ago. (I think you can now buy it on the Discovery Channel’s website.) It shows how the last combat bombing mission of WWII intersected with a last ditch coup attempt by fanactical junior officers of the Japanese army. Basically, just as the coup members were about to kidnap Hirohito on his way to record a speech to the nation announcing the surrender, American bombers flying overhead caused a blackout in Tokyo. This delayed the emperor’s motorcade to the recording studio and sent the coup leader scrambling for more troops. As a result, when the emperor did pass the concealed troops, the coup leader was absent and no one else had the nerve to order the emperor’s seizure.


44 posted on 11/15/2009 7:30:38 AM PST by ClubCaved
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

My Kenyan President hates America. I am not even kidding.


45 posted on 11/15/2009 7:30:55 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: melancholy

Not saying you’re wrong...I’m wondering if we’d announced that we’d use a second bomb if the Japanese didn’t surrender within a few days...if maybe they might have.

We’ll never know...but I’m not sure Nagasaki was necessay...what?...four days after Hiroshima?

Truman was essentially right...that Obama would not know this is AMAZING.


46 posted on 11/15/2009 7:43:21 AM PST by kjo
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To: kjo

No problem, kjo.

The Japanese were very tough-minded, especially the younger generation who would have taken over to carry on with a kamikaze war.

The message was loud and clear; after Pearl Harbor and death marches; we’ll kill you all unless you surrender.

We showed them that we were capable to deliver and that brought on their immediate surrender.


47 posted on 11/15/2009 7:57:17 AM PST by melancholy (Hey Marxists, don't Crap & Tread on me. Zer0's defeat is now in progress.)
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To: kjo
Truman was essentially right...that Obama would not know this is AMAZING.

I don’t think he doesn't know, rather, he doesn't believe because for a non-American to be un-American shouldn't be a surprise.

The misconception is that Obama is "well educated." He isn't. He went to and "passed" Harvard through Affirmative Action and PC. He couldn't write proper English. He's hiding all his records that may very well prove that his GPAs were negative 3!! Nobody ever saw him or associated with him in Columbia University.

You may ask whether I have any links. The answer is no, because they don't exist. However, we're asked to take his word for his non-existent paper trail. Well, I ask you to take my word over his! LOL

Until Soros puppet shows us his paper trail, he'll continue to be 0b0z0.

48 posted on 11/15/2009 8:25:14 AM PST by melancholy (Hey Marxists, don't Crap & Tread on me. Zer0's defeat is now in progress.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Hey guess what...

the government and military of Japan were not going to surrender after the second one either...

it was only because the Emperor decided to surrender...

and then the military try to overthrow the Emperor and keep fighting

Also Japan DID NOT unconditionally surrender as we demanded...the Emperor was not remove, tried, jailed or touched..

If we had gotten an unconditional surrender the Emperor was going to on trial for war crimes and looking at the gallows

So many myth abound if the A bomb was "needed"

Also on the "we did it to keep the Russians out"...

The Russians were never going to set foot on Japan unless we let them...why?....

They had no Navy or sea lift to get troops there..

dam hard to invade an island with out it..

49 posted on 11/15/2009 11:45:20 AM PST by tophat9000 (Obama plans to fix America like he fixed his dog)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Cheers for glgb !! Doing the job the MSM won’t do, day in and day out, year after year.


50 posted on 11/15/2009 6:28:21 PM PST by EDINVA
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