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Axelrod Signals Obama Will Try to Strip Abortion Language From Health Care Bill
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Posted on 11/15/2009 9:25:33 AM PST by Sub-Driver

Axelrod Signals Obama Will Try to Strip Abortion Language From Health Care Bill

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The amendment, authored by Rep. Bart Stupak, D-Mich., went beyond preventing the proposed government-run plan from covering abortion to restrict federal subsidies from going toward private plans that offer abortion coverage. David Axelrod says the amendment changes the "status quo," something the president cannot abide.

White House Senior Adviser David Axelrod suggested Sunday that President Obama will intervene to make sure a controversial amendment restricting federal funding for abortion coverage is stripped from final health care reform legislation.

In doing so, the president would be heeding the call of abortion rights supporters like Planned Parenthood that have called the White House their "strongest weapon" in keeping such restrictions out of the bill.

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KEYWORDS: 111th; abortion; abortocare; babykillers; bhoabortion; bhohealthcare; obamacare; stupidstupak
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surprised?
1 posted on 11/15/2009 9:25:35 AM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver
Its not going to pass without a ban on public funding for abortion. The Blue Dogs voted for Obamacare only because the Stupak Amendment passed. Obama is arrogant, dumb and politically tone deaf.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus

2 posted on 11/15/2009 9:27:43 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Sub-Driver

Didn’t he say on National TV that no funding in the Health Care bill would go for Abortions. Did I hear that wrong, if not, Mr. President, YOU LIE!


3 posted on 11/15/2009 9:28:21 AM PST by kezzek
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To: Sub-Driver

No need to fear blue doggies. Many of you balked with the original bill while many others were dumb enough to vote for this porky because of the abortion language. Once Pelosi cracks the whip, you’ll forget about the abortion clause.

Nice blue doggies...here’s a biscut for you.

What? You gonna get whacked in 2010...so what? We didn’t want you in our house anyway. Maybe Obama will have a civil service job lined up for you.


4 posted on 11/15/2009 9:30:56 AM PST by ak267
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To: Sub-Driver

I’m thinking this was the plan all along. Pelosi agreed to the abortion wording to get health care bill passed, after working it out with Obama to take it out after it passed.

Pelosi leads Obama around by the nose......impeach them both!


5 posted on 11/15/2009 9:31:28 AM PST by Joyell
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To: goldstategop

“The Blue Dogs voted for Obamacare only because the Stupak Amendment passed.”

The Blue Dogs have proven to be nothing if not flexible. I’m sure he can bend them to his will.


6 posted on 11/15/2009 9:32:29 AM PST by rightwingcrazy
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To: Joyell
Read what McConnell said: its going to be very difficult to pass a bill without a public funding ban for abortion provision. The American people want one. On that issue Obama and his radical pro-choice supporters are out of touch with the mood of the country.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus

7 posted on 11/15/2009 9:34:00 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Sub-Driver

How much ya wanna bet that these dems went to their supporters in NOW and other radical hate-groups and begged their forgiveness for taking abortion coverage out of the bill, and promised to put it back in as soon as they could do it without anyone knowing?


8 posted on 11/15/2009 9:34:09 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: rightwingcrazy
What political cover is Obama going to give them in front of their pro-life constituents? On abortion, Obama is the most radical President we've ever had in the history of this nation.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus

9 posted on 11/15/2009 9:36:14 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged
Good luck in getting a bill through the Senate this year.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus

10 posted on 11/15/2009 9:37:00 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Sub-Driver
Axelrod says the amendment changes the "status quo,"

Uhh, David, you little weasle, the Stupak Amendment just codifies in the Healthcare bill what was already the law - the Hyde legislation banning federal dollars for abortions. That IS the status quo.

Obama has surrounded himself with some of the dumbest zealots ever to show up at the White House. Not that Zero himself is any brighter. Fortunately, that have a sycophantic press that is even dumber than they are, so it goes unreported.

11 posted on 11/15/2009 9:38:59 AM PST by oldbill
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To: Sub-Driver

trial balloon.

Obama is absolutely the worst President and CIC America has ever had.


12 posted on 11/15/2009 9:39:29 AM PST by HD1200
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To: Sub-Driver
Axelrod Signals Obama Will Try to Strip Abortion Language From Health Care Bill

.........and, we'll strip 0b0z0 and his cronies from the WH and Congress in 2012, as we should............

13 posted on 11/15/2009 9:40:10 AM PST by melancholy (Hey Marxists, don't Crap & Tread on me. Zer0's defeat is now in progress.)
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To: Sub-Driver

The way Axelrod talks you would think ObOzO was president instead of TOTUS. ZerO is just Pres__ent.


14 posted on 11/15/2009 9:40:43 AM PST by depressed in 06 (ZerOcare: Bureaucratic best practices equals death panels.)
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To: ak267

15 posted on 11/15/2009 9:43:06 AM PST by Bobalu (I AM JIM THOMPSON)
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To: Sub-Driver

I have a question. If the plan includes abortion, my religious beliefs would not allow me to contribute to it. I cannot morally or ethically pay to have a baby murdered. Do I just stop paying taxes and go yo jail?


16 posted on 11/15/2009 9:45:09 AM PST by pnut22
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To: Sub-Driver
Hold the phone calls please ...

We have a winner in the "I believed Obama because he called me personally" category.
17 posted on 11/15/2009 9:47:06 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

I’m willing to bet that NOW was a willing accompish in the deception. There was a “wink wink nudge nudge” to get a bill passed with each side knowing full well that they were going to get it taken out. NOW, MoveOn.org, and other such organizations are going to be doing their part by raising hell and making it look like “the people” want abortion in the final bill.


18 posted on 11/15/2009 9:48:49 AM PST by Jackson57
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To: goldstategop
I fully expect the bill with the abortion ban in place to pass. Then they'll turn around and fix the law as soon as they can (before the 2010 elections).
19 posted on 11/15/2009 9:49:50 AM PST by Stegall Tx (Democrats: raising your taxes; cheating on theirs.)
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To: goldstategop
Its not going to pass without a ban on public funding for abortion. The Blue Dogs voted for Obamacare only because the Stupak Amendment passed

I don't agree. The BDs only voted that way to give themselves cover when going back home - they all realized that abortion would be covered in ANY DEM bill that provided free health care. It will pass and the thug politicians now running the Fed Govt will make sure of that. The people mean Zip, Nada, Nothing any more. We have a MARXIST ruling class in DC now.
20 posted on 11/15/2009 9:50:00 AM PST by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: pnut22

The sad part is pnut, you’ve already been doing so. Obama lifted the ban on funding abortion in other countries via executive order just a few days into his presidency.


21 posted on 11/15/2009 9:52:13 AM PST by benjibrowder (For Neda. May God bless those fighting for freedom.)
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To: oldbill
Obama has surrounded himself with some of the dumbest zealots ever to show up at the White House. Not that Zero himself is any brighter. Fortunately, that have a sycophantic press that is even dumber than they are, so it goes unreported.

Yes, but his zealots are purposely dumb (aka liars), while the press is just plain dumb. The former relies on the stupidity of the latter.

22 posted on 11/15/2009 9:52:57 AM PST by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: benjibrowder

And that really burns me. I guess my question is about separation of church and state. I personally do not consider abortion so much a medical choice as a moral choice. It should be excluded.. along with face lifts and breast augmentation from all insurance policies. I know it’s too late, but it still burns my a$$.


23 posted on 11/15/2009 9:58:04 AM PST by pnut22
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24 posted on 11/15/2009 10:00:20 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: oldbill; HD1200
Obama has surrounded himself with some of the dumbest zealots ever to show up at the White House. Not that Zero himself is any brighter. Fortunately, that have a sycophantic press that is even dumber than they are, so it goes unreported.

One point of disagreement, if I may. None of them is "dumb", they know exactly how to follow a CommuFascist path to destroy this country.

We always talk about "unintended consequences", wrong! They are VERY intended and that's precisely what Soros and his puppets, 0b0z0 and co., INTEND to do.

The unintended consequences' spiel is an alibi for their "good intentions" in the history books written by the Communist historians and academians.

25 posted on 11/15/2009 10:03:53 AM PST by melancholy (Hey Marxists, don't Crap & Tread on me. Zer0's defeat is now in progress.)
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To: Sub-Driver

This is a head fake.


26 posted on 11/15/2009 10:15:20 AM PST by savedbygrace (You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
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To: Sub-Driver

He LIES!


27 posted on 11/15/2009 10:17:32 AM PST by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bail out)
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To: savedbygrace

>> This is a head fake.

Modulating expectations?


28 posted on 11/15/2009 10:27:26 AM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Gene Eric

Exactly.

They will do whatever will get the bill passed.


29 posted on 11/15/2009 10:31:32 AM PST by savedbygrace (You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
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To: Sub-Driver

Abortion and Black Genocide (Barack Obama and the Negro Project)


30 posted on 11/15/2009 10:34:16 AM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: kezzek

Obama vs. Obamacare: Funding Abortion (Who's Lying?)


31 posted on 11/15/2009 10:41:52 AM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Sub-Driver
White House Senior Adviser David Axelrod suggested Sunday that President Obama will intervene to make sure a controversial amendment restricting federal funding for abortion coverage is stripped from final health care reform legislation.

Oh really David?!? Hold on and let me check my copy of the CONSTITUTION real quick. .......
.......
Yep I was right.
The POTUS is NOT part of the Legislative Branch and has NO say so in any legislation except as to signing a Bill into law or a Veto.

for being a 'constitutional scholar', this Obama guy is a real moron!

32 posted on 11/15/2009 10:55:41 AM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: savedbygrace

“They will do whatever will get the bill passed.”

I hope you’re wrong. It would be fantastic were Obama to show his true colors by meddling on this provision even as he takes a hands-off attitude to every other detail of health reform (leaving it to Congress to do all the heavy lifting even as he plans to take full credit for what emerges at the end).

I’m still counting on the hard-core pro-choice crowd to carry through on their threats to vote against any reform bill that retains the Stupak language. Notwithstanding Pelosi’s reassurances to the 193 Democrats who voted against Stupak but then held their noses and voted for the final bill, I don’t think the Senate can pass a version that has this language stripped. It would be sweet irony to have the far left in Congress cast the decisive votes that kill Obamacare.

As Michael Cannon of CATO Institute recently observed, the abortion provision is possibly the best single example of why we don’t want government-run health care in the first place. No matter how the issue is decided, about half the country won’t get what they want. Either they won’t have the “privilege” of enrolling in a plan with abortion coverage or they will end up being forced to pay for abortions they find morally abhorrent. There is no way to “split the baby” on this question.


33 posted on 11/15/2009 11:01:09 AM PST by DrC
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To: DrC

I hope I’m wrong, too.

IMO, if abortions are funded in the final bill, the Dims will not be able to get enough votes to pass it. However, they are arrogant and will easily believe they can pass it that way.


34 posted on 11/15/2009 11:09:27 AM PST by savedbygrace (You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
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To: Liberty Valance

I hate that pr*ck. Barry calls him and bribes him and he votes for it. What an POS he is.


35 posted on 11/15/2009 11:12:42 AM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Cheerio
The BDs only voted that way to give themselves cover when going back home - they all realized that abortion would be covered in ANY DEM bill that provided free health care. It will pass and the thug politicians now running the Fed Govt will make sure of that

If the ban is stripped out in conference, any Blue Dog who votes for the revised version will lose any cover he had.

I still think it unlikely that the bill will pass without a ban in place.

36 posted on 11/15/2009 11:18:27 AM PST by freespirited (Liberals are only liberal about sex & drugs. Otherwise, they want to control your life. --DHorowitz)
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To: Sub-Driver

In anything other than a dictatorship, how can a bill pass in the house and then have a key element stripped out of it by the president WITHOUT HAVING TO GO BACK TO THE HOUSE FOR A REVOTE?

Maybe I’m misunderstanding the process...

Can anyone clarify?


37 posted on 11/15/2009 11:21:08 AM PST by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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To: kezzek

Yes, Ubama is a liar.
Surprise, surprise...


38 posted on 11/15/2009 11:21:34 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Sub-Driver

(in other words, the President doesn’t have a line-item veto)


39 posted on 11/15/2009 11:26:30 AM PST by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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To: Sub-Driver
Thanks Axelclod. You have just admitted Joe Wilson was right. 0bama, YOU LIE. This health plan intends to cover abortions, illegals and creates death panels.


40 posted on 11/15/2009 11:36:51 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Sub-Driver
It is always funny to see the reaction of the liberals when government controlled health care isn't controlled the way they like it. I think we need more amendments just for the fun of it. Maybe mandatory drug testing for people on the public option and stop coverage unless you get drug free. Pay caps on lawyers earnings from malpractice - maybe $250,000 per year total.
41 posted on 11/15/2009 11:56:50 AM PST by GWynand
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To: Liberty Valance

Naive...or weak and secretly Dim?


42 posted on 11/15/2009 12:57:26 PM PST by livius
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To: socialismisinsidious


Socialized Medicine aka Universal Health Care daily digest PING LIST

FReepmail me if you want to be added to or removed from this daily digest ping list (one ping per day of links to pertinent articles).




43 posted on 11/15/2009 1:20:35 PM PST by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Excellent, this will assure that the socialized medicine bill is not only dead in the Senate but will be dead in the House when they vote on a final bill with the pro-abortion clause in it.


44 posted on 11/15/2009 1:23:21 PM PST by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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To: Sub-Driver

We can’t punish women by forcing them to have children.


45 posted on 11/15/2009 1:25:48 PM PST by votemout
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To: ak267
I it was that easy they would have got more than 220 votes in the House with the previous bill that had an anti-abortion clause to get some vote of the Blue Dogs democrats. Remove the anti-abortion clause from the bill and it is not going to pass the House no matter what. Now in the Senate it will be dead on arrival.
46 posted on 11/15/2009 1:27:01 PM PST by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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To: Joyell

You’re probably right that this is how it was planned. Abortion was used as a bait and switch to get this stinking POS passed. In business, it would be illegal, but not if congress does it.


47 posted on 11/15/2009 1:51:14 PM PST by virgil
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To: Servant of the Cross

It’s taken 1 year to realize that BHO will screw over anybody to get want he wants. His background is shady, his friends and associates are lowlifes,he has no backbone or morals.He is one scary package.


48 posted on 11/15/2009 1:53:27 PM PST by staten island ny
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To: goldstategop

So what? We know how the socialist Democrats operate. They will try to get abortion in another bill in the future.

The entire public option should be killed!


49 posted on 11/15/2009 2:28:11 PM PST by orinoco
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To: Sub-Driver

You know, if you would use the title in the story from Fox, I wouldn’t have wasted my time posting the same article.

I searched the orginal with no hits and then found yours which is not the title posted at Fox.

I don’t post much, but people want to “juice up” or add their personal touch to a title which results in multiple postings.

You have have been successful with the fact that your posting will be the one and only.

Rant/off


50 posted on 11/15/2009 2:58:32 PM PST by mmanager (It is time to prune the tree.)
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