Posted on 11/15/2009 1:59:57 PM PST by Reeses
Once Thought Of As Superfood That Helped Prevent The Disease Is Now Thought Of As Helping Increase The Risk
After 10 years of being touted as "the" superfood, soy-based products are all over the supermarket.
But now new reports link soy to breast cancer.
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But several new studies suggest that eating a lot of soy -- in particular highly processed soy -- and soy supplements may actually promote the growth of some pre-existing breast cancers, especially in post-menopausal women.
"A higher dose of soy, such as you might see in a diet with supplements, will cause the breast cells to increase their growth rate," said Dr. Michael Osborne, director of breast cancer programs at Beth Israel Medical Center.
Osborne explains when cells begin to increase their growth rate there are greater opportunities for them to grow into cancer.
"The general principle, if soy is good, more is better, is wrong," Osborne said.
(Excerpt) Read more at wcbstv.com ...
Isn’t soy a mostly libtard food? ...
Yes, libtards love estrogen.
I’m usually weary of these types of studies. How many of these soy eating women had other “pre-existing” conditions? If it’s not soy, it’s red meat. This is an attack on successful businesses...plain and simple
Yes to the above and for those who are lactose intolerant. Soy products do not agree with me. Check out the labels there is soy in LOTS of foods.
Another nasty culprit is processed soy. This is always a shock to most people (especially die hard vegetarians) who have been falsely led to believe that soy is actually good for you. Well if you lived in Asia you would quickly see that most Asians eat soy in small quantities and in the form of old fashioned fermented soy (such as miso, tempeh, natto, shoyu and tamari) not the processed, toxic soy that is used in so many vegetarian type products and weight loss products on the market today. The worst of today's soy protein products are soy protein isolate, soy protein concentrate, texturized vegetable protein and hydrolyzed vegetable protein. These ingredients are found in everything from shake powders, energy bars and veggie burgers to canned tuna. The worst soy oil products are margarines and shortenings made from partially hydrogenated soybean oil containing dangerous trans fatty acids. So avoid these forms of toxic soy at all costs. Not only will you be saving yourself from a myriad of health problems (like decreased thyroid function and hormone disruption) you will also see a dramatic loss in unwanted body fat.
Next time you're at the store, read some ingredient listings...you'll be shocked at what's listed...soy and soy products are everywhere. Especially, read products that are touted as 'healthy'.
Not really. It’s slipped into a lot of foods you would not expect to find it, protein shakes, ice cream, even some meat products.
The Agriculture industry has conned everyone into thinking that non-fermented soy is healthy, and unfortunately it's in everything now. Asians don't drink soy milk, and only did in times of famine. Giving soy formula to a baby is the equivalent of giving it 5 birth control pills.
Stay away from it.
Yes. You must be very careful driving down the highway. If you come too close to a soy field, your next car will likely be a volvo, your next computer will be a mac, you’ll be begging for higher taxes, more gov’t intrusion in your life and those around you and you’ll grow a ponytail.
Pelosi is cutting Medicare and adding funds to Hospice Care. She’s out to do in as many Americans as she and the Congress, this Administration, and Zero’s Socialist Czars can. No telling what will be added to our food. Eat, drink, and make merry for tomorrow you will .....
I have a friend who is always trying to shove soy and other so called healthy products at me. Funny thing is she gets sick an awful lot.
I will admit that i do love edamame beans.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus
Tofu is a fermented soy product and very safe and healthy. “
It’s not fermented. It’s made by boiling crushed beans, taking the resulting liquid and adding a salt to it. This causes the suspended solids to congeal.
Also, too much soy can cause infertility. My friend had to stop with all the soy that she thought was good for her and go back to eating meat for protein and she finally got pregnant.
I think you might want to check on this. It's not safe and healthy, nor is it fermented.
"Soybeans are widely known to contain a gamut of natural toxins - and it makes no difference whether they are organic, "Round-Up Ready", or in any number of modern products (see our GUIDANCE page).
The trouble with modern soy products is that fast industrial processing does not equate to historical methods of fermenting "for two summers" or boiling "for the length of an incense". The method of modern get-rich-quick corporations is simply to leave these well-known natural toxins in our products."
Ironically I'm completely intolerant of soy products: salad dressing, margarine, creamers, mayo, cheese etc etc. (BIL says there is just one more step to change many of the margarine and cheeses made with soy into plastic. Soy can cause woman not to be able to conceive. Government knows all of this. The research was done thirty years ago.)
See previous post, it’s boiled and safe, esp in moderation.
HEYY! Yours truly, Darth-to-the-right-of-Atila-the-Hun, is sitting here eating some delicious shrimp stir fry that I just made using soy sauce and hoisin sauce among other things.
The Asians invented a lot of very tasty condiments and sauces. Food ain’t political.
In fact, my stir fry is multi-cultural as it contains some hot Indian curry, Mexican red jalapenos, and German red cabbage. The only problem is that the way I make it, it sometimes cauterizes the oral cavity.
I meant if the are NOT called soy.
Some of the ‘vegetable oil’ people buy for cooking is pure soybean oil.
I have a bias in favor of whatever people have successfully done for thousands of years that has worked, evidently, to their advantage. That's one reason I favor, for example, male-female marriage over other sexual arrangements. It's sustainable across the generations. It's stood the test of time. It works.
Call me a conservative.
Not sure what you have a against herbs...I love ‘em! And...at the risk of sounding ‘green’ and taking a lot of grief here...I’m starting to purchase more and more organic. I’m tired of ingesting all the crap that’s pumped into beef, poultry and fish. I seriously think it’s having an effect on my health. I’m already on Synthroid for life, I don’t need the hormones they give the animals too. There are some fruits and veggies that I’ll buy organic and some that I’ll just buy ‘regular’. {ok, hang on...I need to go put on my flame-suit}
Yes its loaded with female hormones (ducks)
They have long eaten huge amounts of soy in Asia, but with a difference. Almost all the soy they eat is fermented. Fermenting destroys the plant estrogen that is believed to be behind a lot of the health problems associated with soy.
Fermented, preserved or pickled tofu (doufu-ru, furu, rufu, fuyu, funan) is aged tofu with a soft, creamy texture and an aroma similar to a very ripe cheese.
And Asians usually would eat tofu like a condiment, seasoning or a snack. It was not the main course.
You think herbs are a waste of money? We treat most of our families health problems with herbs. My children haven’t been to the doctor in over two years.
“Wow! The Tofu and Birkenstock crowd will go crazy!
I don’t eat Tofu, yet I wear Birkenstocks exclusively. I can’t wear regular shoes as my neuropathy becomes infuriated. I also have flat feet and the arch support of Birkis is perfect. Birkenstocks are a consumer product which doesn’t need tofu or a social label as a prerequisite for ownership or use.
In case you don’t know, applesauce can be substituted for vegetable oil in a recipe for baked goods. 1/3 c vegetable oil use 1/3 cup applesauce instead. You can’t tell the difference. We only use olive oil for cooking and it doesn’t taste very good in brownies. :)
You are a conservative. ;)
I know a guy who drinks soy milk, because he is allergic to real milk. But, he is a bit submissive.
So then the soy turkey is out this year... oh darn.
you shouldn’t have to worry about a flame suit. Just because some liberals do thing for political reasons does not mean it’s a bad idea. Eating healthy and not processed crap is not a bad thing. Same thing as the “going green” ideas of cutting down your energy consumption and the fabric grocery bags. Sometimes a good idea is just a good idea and who cares what others think. :)
Ya think? :o)
In general, the two best fats to use for cooking are unrefined coconut oil (for very high heat) and raw organic butter (for medium-high heat; it should not turn brown during cooking). Because they contain high levels of saturated fat, they stay chemically stable up to 375°F. Oils that are low in saturated fat and high in monounsaturated fat, such as olive oil, are best consumed raw (e.g., on salads and vegetables) or used for light sautéing over medium heat. Although coconut oil provides a significant amount of fat and calories, it has been proven to increase the body’s metabolic rate, making it easier to lose weight.
I know you’re going to find it difficult to believe, but butter—at least the raw organic kind—is one of the healthiest whole foods you can include in your diet. Yes, butter contains high levels of saturated fat; but remember, saturated fat is not the culprit behind weight gain and high rates of disease. Trans fats (hydrogenated oils), sugars, and processed grains are the bad guys. Like coconut oil, butter is high in lauric acid, which the body uses for energy. Extra-virgin olive oil is another healthy oil. It is rich in antioxidants, and 1 or 2 teaspoons go a long way (on a salad or in a sauté). When buying olive oil, look for oil that is cloudy (indicating that it has not been filtered) and has a golden yellow color (which means that it was made from fully ripened olives). Extra virgin is best. And, of course, it should be organic.
Thank you! {taking flame-suit off...HMPF!}
Oh I am not talking about bottled herbs. I am talking about real growing herbs that no one can make a profit off of. Medicine has its place but that is not our first reaction, it is a last resort. I have cured ear infections with garlic oil ear drops etc. However, I have had to also get an antibiotic for an ear infection I couldn’t get cleared up. Everything has it’s place. Herbs shouldn’t be overlooked, they can have some curative properties without the side effects.
Yes I have read this info before but thanks for posting. We do use real butter instead of margarine or butter subs. My general philosophy is the closer to nature the better. I buy extra virgin olive oil in bulk. I would love to use coconut oil but it is so expensive. We are a family of 5 living on one income.
I didn’t say they don’t get sick, I just don’t take them to the doctor for every little thing. I treat them at home. My kids had swine flu two weeks ago. I assume it was swine flu because they were playing with kids that were diagnosed with swine flu. Too many people rush to the doctor for every little thing. But you are right, they aren’t exposed to alot of things going around because they aren’t at school. People tend to keep their children home from church/co-op etc when they know they are sick but alot of people will send their kids to school sick because they have to be at work.
I did not know that. That is an interesting substitution.
I can’t imagine frying anything in applesauce though:)
bttt
No I would imagine frying something in applesauce would taste just about as good as olive oil in brownies. LOL!
I just noticed your posts about using applesauce instead of cooking oil. I don’t bake much but I’ll try it next time.
I cook my popcorn in olive oil and sometimes use it in place of butter topping.
hahahaha!
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