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MILLION HIT BY 'PLAGUE WORSE THAN SWINE FLU'
Daily Express (UK) ^ | Sunday November 15,2009 | Greg Miskiw

Posted on 11/16/2009 4:58:16 AM PST by Uncle Ike

A cocktail of three flu viruses are reported to have mutated into a single pneumonic plague, which it is believed may be far more dangerous than swine flu. The death toll has reached 189 and more than 1 million people have been infected, most of them in the nine regions of Western Ukraine.

President of Ukraine Viktor Yushchenko has called in the World Health Organisation and a team of nine specialists are carrying out tests in Kiev and Lviv to identify the virus. Samples have been sent to London for analysis.

President Yushchenko said: “People are dying. The epidemic is killing doctors. This is absolutely inconceivable in the 21st Century.”

In a TV interview, the President added: “Unlike similar epidemics in other countries, three causes of serious viral infections came together simultaneously in Ukraine – two seasonal flus and the Californian flu

“Virologists conclude that this combination of infections may produce an even more aggressive new virus as a result of mutation.”

(Excerpt) Read more at express.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: h1n1; million; plague; pneumonic; swineflu; ukraine

1 posted on 11/16/2009 4:58:17 AM PST by Uncle Ike
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To: DvdMom

ping


2 posted on 11/16/2009 4:58:53 AM PST by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Uncle Ike
This is absolutely inconceivable in the 21st Century

why?

3 posted on 11/16/2009 4:59:47 AM PST by ZinGirl
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To: Uncle Ike

So they may have finally hit on something to control the population.


4 posted on 11/16/2009 5:01:24 AM PST by ronnie raygun (Leaders who refuse to lead will be lead by the people)
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To: ronnie raygun

God’s way of telling us to come home, that planet Earth has really gone crazy?


5 posted on 11/16/2009 5:03:39 AM PST by not2worry (WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND)
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To: Uncle Ike

See what happens when you piss off mother russia


6 posted on 11/16/2009 5:04:13 AM PST by orlop9
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To: Uncle Ike

I think H1N1 was the preview of coming attractions- they are using global pandemics to do... something- I am not sure what yet (global one-world government, I suspect)


7 posted on 11/16/2009 5:04:32 AM PST by Mr. K (Deathly afraid one of my typos becomes a freeper catchphrase...I'm series!)
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To: Uncle Ike

This is 2009, there is no Californian flu, it would just be called the sheeple flu. The Cali flu is too harsh, and hurts the migrants that call this beautiful place home.


8 posted on 11/16/2009 5:04:58 AM PST by runninglips (It was just time for this to come to a head.....)
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To: Uncle Ike

Something not right about this report. Million people infected - 189 die -— not unusual. And ‘pneumonic plague’ - well that plague was caused by a bacteria not a virus. It is a type of Bubonic plague.

This whole report seems greatly embellished... sounds like a regular course of what we have seen from Swine flu to me.


9 posted on 11/16/2009 5:07:54 AM PST by ICCtheWay
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To: Uncle Ike

I guess the current h1n1 scare isn’t turning enough people to support government takover of healthcare, so roll out another apocalypse.


10 posted on 11/16/2009 5:08:16 AM PST by 1raider1
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To: Uncle Ike

****President of Ukraine Viktor Yushchenko has called in the World Health Organisation ****

And the World Health Org. will be demanding those American capitalist pig pharmaceutical companies to solve this problem. America owes the world!!


11 posted on 11/16/2009 5:10:54 AM PST by sodpoodle (Never give up- Keep Up!!!)
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To: Uncle Ike

189 deaths per million cases extrapolated to the whole world population is about 1.1 million deaths. After that, the epidemic would be done.

Nearly a million people, worldwide, die from Malaria every year.


12 posted on 11/16/2009 5:12:49 AM PST by Jack of all Trades (Stop the change - I want to get off!)
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To: Uncle Ike

The Stand.


13 posted on 11/16/2009 5:19:58 AM PST by 50sDad (The Left cannot understand life is not in a test tube. Raise taxes, & jobs go away.)
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To: sodpoodle

Actually, most flu vaccines, including the H1N1, are manufactured outside the United States. The profit margin on vaccines in general is so small that US pharmaceutical companies don’t bother with them. There are exceptions, of course, but generally speaking that’s the deal.


14 posted on 11/16/2009 5:20:12 AM PST by kittykat77
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To: Mr. K

we discussed that last night around the dinner table; mass population reduction would seem to be the goal; only problem is........they seem to have released the Genie from the bottle but can’t quite control it. If I were a Global Marxist, I’d want to wipe out the U.S. middle class; instead they’ve only successfully targeted third world countries. Very puzzling.


15 posted on 11/16/2009 5:21:58 AM PST by glide625
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To: kittykat77

Manufactured outside the USA - but researched & developed & funded by US companies.


16 posted on 11/16/2009 5:27:17 AM PST by sodpoodle (Never give up- Keep Up!!!)
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To: Uncle Ike

thanks for the ping !

Good Morning , I hope you are doing well :)


17 posted on 11/16/2009 5:30:21 AM PST by DvdMom (Let me know if you want to be added to the H1N1 ping list)
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To: Uncle Ike

the statement ... “A cocktail of three flu viruses are reported to have mutated into a single pneumonic plague, ...” is not scientifically sound per se. There is not (seemingly) a single virus with recombinant DNA from three viruses killing people; likely there are multiple concurrent infections, bacterial and viral, that are killing people.

Should there indeed be a new or “novel” pathogen out there as a single new strain, this would be real news.

I doubt the author is sufficiently schooled in epidemiology to fully comment.

Worth following to see what is really going on.


18 posted on 11/16/2009 5:31:39 AM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: Uncle Ike

Have you seen this YouTube clip?

Joseph Moshe H1N1 Ukraine Plague Warning
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OYVws9uJbk

There are several threads about the Ukraine:

Ukraine WHO And The Geopolitics Of Swine Flu Panic
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2386125/posts

Ukraine in panic over swine flu
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2382021/posts

Ukraine: Influenza or Pneumonic Plague? The situation is getting worse and worse
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2379674/posts

Ukraine slides into military rule under pandemic pretext..(ARE WE NEXT ??)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2378906/posts

SHOCK! Epidemic of pneumonic plague in Ukraine? (updated at 05:39 pm)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2374394/posts


19 posted on 11/16/2009 5:32:59 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: Uncle Ike
A million people get a virus.

Only 189 die, but let us call it a plague.

The British press certainly isn't infected with journalism.

20 posted on 11/16/2009 5:51:19 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Whenifhow

yea, I’ve been casually watching this for the last week or so. Still not enough deaths per exposure to qualify for a pandemic panic. If the global elite (illuminati?)really wanted to wipe out millions of “useless eaters” they are doing a really poor job of it ;-)


21 posted on 11/16/2009 5:53:50 AM PST by vanilla swirl (Maranatha!)
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To: Uncle Ike

Is the sky falling? I’m sorry, but 189 deaths do not a pandemic make. Not to belittle the story, and certainly not to cut down the science (I’m fascinated by that) but “plague”?


23 posted on 11/16/2009 6:18:11 AM PST by blu (Graffiti the world, I've seen the writing on the wall...)
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To: MrEdd
1,364,939 Influenza/ARI
75,862 Hospitalized
299 Dead

With 75,862 people hospitalized, it seems the ratio could be going up.

24 posted on 11/16/2009 6:20:26 AM PST by InShanghai (I was born on the crest of a wave, and rocked in the cradle of the deep.)
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To: 50sDad
The Stand

Seems Captain Tripps may have gone walkabout this year a little early. Beware the clicks of Walkin' Dude on the highway in the dark!

25 posted on 11/16/2009 6:20:43 AM PST by blu (Graffiti the world, I've seen the writing on the wall...)
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To: Uncle Ike
if the death toll is only 189 out of over one million infected that does not seem like a very high mortality rate to me. What is the death rate for “normal” flu per million plus infections?
26 posted on 11/16/2009 6:23:05 AM PST by highlander_UW (To anger a conservative tell him a lie. To anger a liberal tell him the truth.)
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To: blu

Randall Flagg told me to walk west, towards Las Vegas....


27 posted on 11/16/2009 6:23:48 AM PST by I Buried My Guns (Buy Lots Of Ammo Today)
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To: orlop9

its certainly possible.


28 posted on 11/16/2009 6:24:26 AM PST by wiggen (Never in the history of our great country have the people had less representation than they do today)
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To: sodpoodle

It’s not just the United States. France’s Pasteur Institute has developed numerous vaccines. It was the first to develop a rabies vaccine and also developed vaccines for tetanus and a whole bunch of other nasty diseases. It was the first lab to isolate the AIDS virus. Another leading foreign lab is the Karolinska Institute in Sweden. And the Japanese pharmaceutical industry is rapidly advancing.

Sorry — I’m a retired medical editor and I get picky about these things. Drives my husband crazy....


29 posted on 11/16/2009 6:25:09 AM PST by kittykat77
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To: Uncle Ike
Captain Trips?
30 posted on 11/16/2009 6:27:00 AM PST by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Uncle Ike

“A Fate WORSE than A Fate Worse Than Death? That’s Pretty Bad.”


31 posted on 11/16/2009 6:33:54 AM PST by wbill
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To: Uncle Ike
'PLAGUE WORSE THAN SWINE FLU'
Gotta' be New York State taxes.
32 posted on 11/16/2009 6:37:55 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: I Buried My Guns
"Randall Flagg told me to walk west, towards Las Vegas...."

M-O-O-N spells Vegas...

33 posted on 11/16/2009 6:38:02 AM PST by sniper63 (Silent and stealthy - one shot - one kill)
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To: Uncle Ike

That’s a death rate of .01%. While I don’t necessarily disagree that it’s worse than swine flu, that’s primarily because the swine flu panic is silly. Kind of like this panic.


34 posted on 11/16/2009 6:38:18 AM PST by discostu (The Bluebird of Happiness long absent from his life, Ned is visited by the Chicken of Depression)
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To: kittykat77

***I’m a retired medical editor and I get picky about these things***

Let’s just use the term; *Western medical technology* and save the unraveling for another thread.

FoxNews featured NHA’s Dr. Fauci who has been involved in all the diseases you mentioned for 40 years. So it is a collaborative effort.


35 posted on 11/16/2009 6:38:18 AM PST by sodpoodle (Never give up- Keep Up!!!)
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To: I Buried My Guns
Randall Flagg told me to walk west, towards Las Vegas....

Dude, stop in Nebraska first!!

As long as we've derailed this thread, read King's new book, Under the Dome. It's the best he's written in years. Not quite up to The Stand, but the character development is excellent.

36 posted on 11/16/2009 6:43:05 AM PST by blu (Graffiti the world, I've seen the writing on the wall...)
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To: sodpoodle

FoxNews featured NIH’s Dr. Fauci.

sorry;(


37 posted on 11/16/2009 6:43:15 AM PST by sodpoodle (Never give up- Keep Up!!!)
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To: Uncle Ike
A cocktail of three flu viruses are reported to have mutated into a single pneumonic plague...

Pneumonic. The killer agent could be bacterial.

38 posted on 11/16/2009 6:53:12 AM PST by decimon
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To: Uncle Ike

The flu was created by the CIA to kill black Ukranians.


39 posted on 11/16/2009 6:55:11 AM PST by Junior_G (Funny how liberals' love affair with Muslims began on 9/11)
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To: DvdMom; Smokin' Joe

Ukranian Ping.


40 posted on 11/16/2009 7:08:06 AM PST by OB1kNOb (ISLAM IS THE H1N1 OF RELIGIONS.)
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To: sodpoodle

LOL. Point taken....


41 posted on 11/16/2009 8:52:40 AM PST by kittykat77
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To: Uncle Ike

http://www.recombinomics.com/News/11150903/Ukraine_299.html

Commentary

Ukraine Dead Increase to 299 - Still No Sequences
Recombinomics Commentary 22:55
November 15, 2009

1,364,939 Influenza/ARI

75,862 Hospitalized

299 Dead

The above numbers represent the latest update for the Ukraine Ministry of Health. Once again the number of dead increased by 17, but weekend numbers tend to be lower than weekday reports. The 199 dead are almost double the 155 reported week ago. The increased number of dead includes locations in central and eastern Ukraine. Last Sunday 13 of the 27 reporting regions had not exceeded the epidemic threshold, but today only 5 regions remained below the threshold (see map).

There has been more recent media coverage which have suggested that the high number of fatal cases was linked to late treatment or a lack of Tamiflu. However, at least 6 of the fatalities were healthcare workers and most of the reported deaths were after the warning was issued and schools were closed down, suggesting that many of not most cases were not due to late treatment. The initial WHO report indicated the time between disease onset and hospitalization was 5-7 days, but the more recent report from Ukraine cited a 3-7 day lag, which again suggested that many die in spite of awareness, modest time differentials between symptoms and hospitalization and appropriate treatment.

Moreover, 90 of the initial cases were describe as have a hemorrhagic component, which again raises concerns about small genetic changes, especially in the receptor binding domain. Answers to questions about such changes have been evasive, and the sequences have not been released by Mill Hill.

The sequence silence remains deafening, and erodes public confidence in agencies controlling these samples and sequences.


42 posted on 11/16/2009 11:05:57 AM PST by DvdMom (Let me know if you want to be added to the H1N1 ping list)
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To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...
Ping...(Thanks for the heads up, OB1kNOb!)



Also, keep up with other H1N1 update stories on this thread: H1N1 flu victim collapsed on way to hospital [Latest H1N1 updates downthread] thanks to DvdMom and others.

43 posted on 11/16/2009 8:27:51 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: ICCtheWay

“This whole report seems greatly embellished... sounds like a regular course of what we have seen from Swine flu to me.”

The Ukraine is in the middle of a big election and the current president (the one hyping the crisis) has climbed from 15 points back to a dead heat as a result of this crisis. I suspect this is just dysfunctional nation politics. I could be wrong but this one doesn’t feel right.


44 posted on 11/16/2009 8:35:42 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: 50sDad; Abigail; RandallFlagg
The Stand.

Shouldn't we ping Mother Abigail and Randall Flagg?

45 posted on 11/16/2009 8:36:19 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 299 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: ModelBreaker

Well, at least we now know the motive for a Ukraine Big Lie...

It would seem that the Ukraine politician learns lessons from Obama... Lie - Lie - Lie - then lie about lying...


46 posted on 11/16/2009 8:43:04 PM PST by ICCtheWay
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To: Uncle Ike

A read about this a few weeks ago while authorities were still in denial over this.


47 posted on 11/16/2009 8:58:27 PM PST by BellStar (Be strong ........Joshua 1:6)
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To: FreeStateYank; Velveeta; Cheap_Hessian; paythefiddler; mstar; se99tp; AdvisorB; onedoug; ...
Eastern European ping list

FRmail me to be added or removed from this Eastern European ping list

48 posted on 11/17/2009 12:43:55 PM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: Grzegorz 246

Thank you so much for the ping. This sounds absolutely awful. I will keep praying for you all.

‘Face


49 posted on 11/17/2009 3:00:55 PM PST by Monkey Face (I wear a yellow ribbon for ForgotenKnight, my army hero grandson.)
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To: 50sDad

It's from space.

50 posted on 11/17/2009 5:42:15 PM PST by Loud Mime (The time to water the tree of liberty approaches...)
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