Skip to comments.Officials: Major Hasan Sought 'War Crimes' Prosecution of U.S. Soldiers
Posted on 11/16/2009 1:08:12 PM PST by MissesBush
Major Nidal Malik Hasan's military superiors repeatedly ignored or rebuffed his efforts to open criminal prosecutions of soldiers he claimed had confessed to "war crimes" during psychiatric counseling, according to investigative reports circulated among federal law enforcement officials.
On Nov. 4, the day after his last attempt to raise the issue, he took extra target practice at Stan's shooting range in nearby Florence, Texas and then closed a safe deposit box he had at a Bank of America branch in Killeen, according to the reports. A bank employee told investigators Hasan appeared nervous and said, "You'll never see me again."
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Investigators believe Hasan's frustration over the failure of the Army to pursue what he regarded as criminal acts by U.S. soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan may have helped to trigger the shootings.
"The Army may not want to admit it, and you may not hear much about it, but it was very big for him," said one of the federal investigators on the task force collecting evidence of the crime.
His last effort to get the attention of military investigators came on Nov. 2, three days before his alleged shooting spree, according to the reports.
Colonel Anthony Febbo at Fort Hood reportedly told investigators he was twice contacted by Hasan, on Nov. 2 and a week earlier in October, about the question of whether he could legally provide information on "war crimes" he had learned in the course of psychiatric counseling he provided soldiers returning from Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Did Hasan have a role in this in the White House?
Is this the reason of the coverup by Obama?
What is clear is:
Hasan and Obama and Holder are SOA
against the people of the United States of America
and the Constitution of the USA.
He was playing with a full deck. He was a muslim demanding free education, good paying job, affirmative action education and career, major arse kissing because he was a muslim, he wanted to prosecute american soldiers and on and on.
This is do to political correctness and crises of racism. We are heading down the same path as the europeans. All funded by Saudi money for attorneys to protect and advance Islamic facism.
Not sure why he went took matters into his own hands when his feelings are shared by the President of the United States who intends to do things this guy would really like.
...and this guy will probably walk. :(:(:(
Not to mention that what his soldier patients may have discussed in therapy were HIS interpretation of war crimes, quite apart from what would constitute prosecutable war crimes. To Hasan, a soldier’s killing ANY Muslim would be a ‘war crime.’
Well, perhaps an analyst can correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe it is a major violation of professional principles for a psychiatrist to leak information told to him by a patient in confidence. Much like a priest violating the confessional.
IF a crime has been committed—a very big IF—then a priest can advise the person confessing to him that he cannot absolve him unless he makes reparation. But he certainly can’t go running to the authorities blabbing about what he was told in confidence.
That’s aside from the fact that this guy considered that simply being over there in Iraq or Afghanistan was a crime against Islam.
It sounds as if he got his ideas from Murtha, Obama, and the New York Times as well as from his former Imam in Virginia.
Good point Ed...indeed I’m sure he felt anyone fighting in “Muslim lands” was a war criminal even if they had never killed or hurt anyone.
I think he’ll get off, too. They’ll probably let him off on insanity (although if he was crazy, there’s millions of other Muslims with the same syndrome...let’s get boxcar loads of thorazine for them all).
However, this might give the press a juicy hook for their stories. I can see it tomorrow, headlines about on the poor abused Muslim having to listen to these ghastly Americans.
He is just like Eric Holder: he would hound, persecute and bankrupt patriotic American heroes.
This is significant in many ways, including what a HUGE red flag this is.
Such total lack of professional boundries is absolutely unacceptable in any medical practitioner but perhaps, especially, for a psychiatrist.
Not only should this have been addressed in his training and professional reviews, it should have led to his ejection from training and -likely- loss of medical license.
Question: In those trials awhile back and pending now, where some of our troops were arrested for war crimes such as murder, rape, etc. were they prosecuted in a civil court or military court? If not civil with a jury, why not? If the enemy who is not even an American citizen gets a jury, why not real Americans?
I've been following this and just posted about it on another thread. I can see where learning about “conduct unbecoming” or “criminal behavior” confessed during rehab might be very, very hard for him to bear as a Muslim. It might make me want to go after the person who confessed to it, but it wouldn't make me want to shoot other people and health care workers who haven't committed “war crimes”.
Nope. Dr. Hasan will have to either look at his condition as a glass half full or half empty situation. I'm fairly certain he won't be practicing medicine for the next year and will be somewhat limited in getting around. In about a year, give or take a few months, after a lethal injection, his inability to “walk” won't be the issue it is today, nor will the “confessions of patients with PTSD”.
We've gone from name calling, to confessed war crimes, to not wanting to go and kill fellow Muslims in Afghanistan to heaven knows what. The bottom line is none of the people who were buried this past weekend are responsible for any of his angst, least of all the fetus of the young soldier or the police woman he shot. There is absolutely no justification for what he did.
Bingo! We are going to find that this Hasan guy was the darling of the left and Obama. They knew exactly who he was and he was used as a ‘source’ for their 8 year anti-america campaign against the wars. That is why they don’t want the congress looking into this and why Obama wants him tried in a military tribunal. Obama doesn’t want to be on trial himself..yet he plans on using the terrorist trials in NY to put the Bush Administration on trial. There are no accidents.
Us soldeirs war criminals?
Oh my....isnt that the retoric of the LEFT?
Shouldnt someone be held responsible?
I wonder what other kind of “books”, and blogs and websites this guy was reading...
Did Olberman killed these people?
What is Hasan’s DU nickname?
“I wonder what other kind of books, and blogs and websites this guy was reading...”
No doubt that the Code Pinko website was on his list. I’d love to know which people in the media already knew Hasan and used him as ‘confidential source’ material for their anti-war campaign.
He might do a lot of things, but I don’t believe he will walk.....ever again
So, the A$$HOLE wanted to renege on the doctor/patient privilege and rat on them? What a jerk! Possibly, these soldiers didn’t even commit any war crimes and this incompetent physician probably did NOTHING to assuage their emotions on the subject. I can’t wait until he burns!
“See what you made me do?” didn’t get me out of a spanking when I was six—yet this asshat is using it as his rationale for cold-blooded murder of innocents HE SWORE to be true to.
Drag him by his gonads to a field, give him a hot ham fat enema,and then gut shoot him and let the wolves and the buzzards clean up.
#14: I hope someone is pulling together a cease and desist order through the courts to prevent these war enemies from being prosecuted in our civil courts.
Let’s see a doctor who has to abide by doctor patient priveledge as well as HIPPA rules wants to violate all that and isn’t repremanded or fired but is instead encouraged and promoted —— yeah makes sense to me. BLEEECH
How did this Hasan guy manage to miss a post in the Obama White House?
Wait a minute, I thought he snapped. Now it was premeditated but triggered by US war crimes. PATHETIC.
A side of this story I’ve not seen covered is how much further damage did he do to the soldiers he was supposedly counseling. Having a son who came home with pts, I know that each appt is important. If this guy was using the time to proselytize and keep notes of âwar crimesâ, I’m pretty sure he wasn’t helping them one bit.
Well, perhaps an analyst can correct me if Im wrong, but I believe it is a major violation of professional principles for a psychiatrist to leak information told to him by a patient in confidence. Much like a priest violating the confessional.
That's my understanding as well - I would think that a psychiatrist breaking a professional confidence would be grounds for dismissal, irrespective of the motives. So that the "discrimination against Muslims" angle could theoretically be finessed. About as well as we can finesse the fact that Obama is black when we criticize him . . .IF a crime has been committeda very big IFthen a priest can advise the person confessing to him that he cannot absolve him unless he makes reparation. But he certainly cant go running to the authorities blabbing about what he was told in confidence.
Thats aside from the fact that this guy considered that simply being over there in Iraq or Afghanistan was a crime against Islam.
. . . or that simply breathing while not Muslim is a capital offence.
I guess when the PTSD defense didn’t wash with the American public the media needed to invent another excuse for this terrorist.
He wasn’t a jihadist, he was a Charles Bronson wanna-be vigilante, heaping out vengeance against those he’d found guilty and sentenced to death....yea that will really fly with the public.
This guy did everything but waive a sign while standing at the front gate of Fort Hood, declaring he was an American hating terrorist, as people drove by winking and nodding.
Another thing Hasan and Obama have in common.
This guy was even signing his emails: "Praise be to Allah"
He was complaining daily that his fellow soldiers should be prosecuted for war crimes.... and they were getting ready to SEND HIM to IRAQ?
Who is running this military?? Gezzzz
And she ignored him!!!!!!
Plenty of people - people whose job it is to notice - people whose job it is to protect us - DID just wink and nod.
The blood and pain and death and misery of the 43 shot is on their miserable excuses for a soul.
Like the last major FAIL, 9/11, there will be ZERO consequences. In fact they will probably be promoted for, as Casey said, protecting the Holy of Holies - DIVERSITY.
The leftists have been struggling to get their "war crimes" agitprop back in gear after the near-collapse of the Iraq Veterans Against the War. This occurred after most of the IVAW's key leaders were debunked by conscientious milblogger types.
It isn't widely known, but leftist psychologists and psychiatrists played a key role in the earlier Vietnam Veterans Against the War propaganda effort. They worked to convince troubled vets that they could expiate the terrible crimes they had committed by confessing them (Soviet style), and becoming antiwar activists.
Perhaps Hasan was trying to line up something similar for today's Left....
Having mooselimbs in the military is like giving a monkey a gun. When one shoots someone, it’s not the monkey’s fault.
It’s our PC culture that is setting these people up to slaughter innocent US citizens. This guy represents everything that is wrong with this country after 9/11. We actively go against common sense as much as possible.
If I was one of his vict, I mean patients he was seeing I’d be so damn angry at the military. I’d probably take off to God knows where to get the hell away.
After all, “dissent is patriotic”! ;^)
Along with the dead victims families and all those shot up that survived.
Well....The utter disgust surrounding this entire depressing event is just incredible...Our enemies in Communist China, Russia and the mid-east must be laughing hysterically at this incompetence and national suicide brought to us by the freaks in government that have sponsored this mindless cultural diversity.
Our greatest threat is Islamic radicals, and Obama is a part of that threat!
And she completely ignored him!
Ya can't make this stuff up ***
In way back in 2007, this guy was hijacking military seminars, showing total support of Muslims and the enemy.
Then I want him deep-fried in bacon grease....an inch at a time.
Obama will probably want to award him a Purple Heart.
This case is showing the public the huge disconnect between politician military and our REAL military.
Our real warriors know this administration is as much of an enemy to them as those they face on the battle field and they know the only way the truth will come out is if they leak it to the public.
Our men and women in uniform should not have to fight a war inside their own country.
More reason to demand an answer to ‘why the hell was he not kicked out of the Army?’
Hasan was complaining daily that his fellow soldiers should be prosecuted for war crimes.... and they were getting ready to send him to Iraq???
He called his female Captain an, "Infidel that should burn in hell"..
We've been betrayed in broad daylight, and we're no doubt surrounded by traitors at every turn.
How has our military who has taken an oath to defend America against enemies foreign and domestic allowed its branches to be infiltrated by radical jihadists?
THIS is a perfect example of why liberals should be regulated to growing food, raising free range animals, creating art and smoking pot. LEAVE THE RUNNING OF THE COUNTRY TO ADULTS!!!
I hope the death of 14 Americans is was the enough of a wake up call for those in our Military whose heads are not filled with PC nonsense to reject this idea that diversity is even more important than the lives of our warriors.
Yep. I was pretty much speechless when I read that too.
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