Skip to comments.Bigoted Religious Extremists [Guess which religion's bigotry Ft. Hood demonstrates]
Posted on 11/16/2009 3:58:06 PM PST by SJackson
There are today several odious attempts by Jewish extremists, like this one by Martin Peretz and this one by La Pasionaria of the Neocons, to argue that the massacre perpetrated by Nidal Hasan was somehow a direct consequence of his Islamic beliefs as opposed to a direct consequence of his insanity. To be sure, extreme religious beliefs and violent insanity are not mutually exclusive. Indeed, they tend to track--among fanatics of all religions. There was, for example, the lunatic Jewish settler, Baruch Goldstein, who opened fire on Muslims praying at the Tomb of the Patriarchs in Hebron in 1994, killing 24 and wounding more than 100. There was also the lunatic Jewish settler who assassinated Yitzak Rabin. I can't remember many Jews calling these effusions of violence as a natural consequence of devout Judaism. They were acts of psychopathy, as was Hasan's bloodbath.
In the meantime, we should identify the notion that Hasan's act was somehow a consequence of his religious orthodoxy for what it is: anti-Islamic bigotry.
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Hmmm. I’m sure Nidal would disagree vehemently, probably violently, with this puke.
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I confess, I think it was terrorism. Like the Seattle Jewish Center attack, the DC sniper, the LAX attack, I won't go on. After all, I'm a religious bigot.
The conclusion the pro-terrorist press is leading us to is that radical Islam is a defacto mental illness.
A Muslim commits a terrorist attack shouting religious Islamic cries and its the Jews who are the extremists.
Hitler ysh’’v would be proud.
With its bleeding of ad pages, and bleeding of money, Time will not long survive. It will be a funeral with no mourners except those who have just lost their pension rights.
I’m beginning to understand why Jews feel persecuted.
“Nidal Hasan was somehow a direct consequence of his Islamic beliefs as opposed to a direct consequence of his insanity”
So, Joe Klein is now a licensed mental health professional and can assess the mental states of people he’s never met?
What a fartknocker.
Some of those comments left are just delusional. “Yeah, all religions are alike. Quit picking on the Islamists!”
What a bunch of nuts.
Leaving aside that it’s Time, supposedly mainstream, don’t you love the fact that Klein paints Jews as right wing radicals, and Communists (La Pasionaria) in the same article.
There are two protected groups in the US, Homosexuals and Muslims.
ALL of the rest of us to blame for EVERYTHING
Islam is violence, it is barbaric, and it is sacriledge against God. It isn’t bigotry to call it those things, it is sound judgement.
The umbrella of religion doesn’t somehow create a shield.
As to this woman who writes this article, lets not forget her motivations. She’s clearly an athiest whose only gods are “carbon imprints” and the government and she is just using this to attack the righteous and to defend what she superficially perceives as an ethnic cultural tradition.
The MSM and the Donks and the Marxist Executive will go to any and all lengths to make this NOT about terrorism. Because after 9/11, Bush kept the country safe for 7 years. Zero hasn’t been in office ONE and there’s already two attacks on American soil.
Hasan’s mental state was considered by his colleagues at Walter Reed. They know more about psychopathy than this author, who probably doesn’t know much.
If the religion they adhere to happens to be a savage death cult that would require a dose of insanity to follow at all, yes.
What is wrong with these people, and Joe Klein in particular? They keep insisting Hasan was mentally unstable, although they produce no evidence that he was. There’s plenty of evidence that he was a conscious fundamentalist who approved of suicide bombings. To point to these facts does not make you a religious bigot. So what are the Joe Kleins of the World purposely driving for?
How evil and vile are these people that they can somehow make believe that this is the Joooooooooo’s fault? Disgusting.
There's overwhelming evidence as to his motivation, not as to non-religious mental instability.Note my brief comment in post 3. Perhaps we're coming to a point where certain streams of Islam are mental disorders. It's a logical conclusion flowing from the authors premise, but he's simply write me off as a right wing Jew.
Perhaps we should start referring to Joe as the Goebbels of the Neolibs.
...err...maybe no one was calling these "effusions of violence as a natural consequence of devout Judaism" because their Holy Book says 'Don't do this stuff - it is wrong. It is an affront to the Holy God'...
And maybe they are saying that Hasan's (and countless other jihadis) actions ARE a natural consequence of devout islamism - because their books (koran and hadiths) instruct their believers to commit such atrocities... [and by the way, it wasn't the Holy God who provided the inspiration for the koran ... it was the 'other fellow' - Lucifer is one of his names]
As he snapped, he was picturing in his mind all the greedy Wall St bankers and imperialist nation-builders who have robbed the working world of capital and imposed western laws upon the peaceful followers of G-d, and he did the quite understandable thing. Who can blame him?
Never mind that Hasan never went into combat, and that he shouted, "Allahu akbar" as he killed our soldiers. That was not relevant. All you Jewish extremists, stop it right now.
Why not? They did it for George W. Bush, and now Sarah Palin, too. Being a liberal gives you special powers a mere mortal can never comprehend.
Pre-traumatic stress. The media doesn't mention it much, but he treated pre-deployment patients, not post deployment
Martin Peretz is a neocon?
SJackson. You didn't put Joe Klein's name in the author field. I read this straight through thinking it was some demented letter from a reader which an editor on a crack bender had allowed to slip through.
But it's a major Time contributor, a “real” journalist, CFR member, Guggenheim Fellow, blah, blah, blah, who wrote this, which in fact reads exactly like something scrawled in crayon by a whacked antisemite! How embarrassing for Klein. How embarrassing for Time.
I bailed on Time decades ago. I knew it had become laughably pathetic then, and assumed it must have only gotten worse, but in my wildest imagination I had no idea.
So says Joe Klein.
My mistake. Yes, this is big time American journalism.
Martin Peretz is a neocon?
So says Joe Klein.
Then I suppose David Ben Gurion was a dangerous right wing extremist and Tze'nah, Tze'nah, Tze'nah, Tze'nah is the Horstwessellied.
Hmmm... second pronouncement by Mr. Klein regarding the treasonous murderer hasan and those evil Joos. He must be really smart because he can see stuff no one else can.
“”as opposed to a direct consequence of his insanity.””
Who declared him insane and when? WOW! That was certainly fast. Now if our court system can work that fast, the murderer will be gone from our midst!
The guy freakin' gave a grand rounds presentation consisting of a 50+ slide Power Point saying as much! That nobody acted upon this is a separate crime in and of itself.
Farrakhan sees it too. This is an attempt by anti-Islamic forces, and some members of the Jewish community, and some members of the Christian community, who have united to condemn Islam and to speak ill of our Prophet Muhammad