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Intelligent Design Book Cracks Bestseller List at Amazon.com
Evolution News & Views ^ | November 16, 2009 | Robert Crowther

Posted on 11/17/2009 8:18:52 AM PST by GodGunsGuts

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To: Wacka

After reading the book, I would be in a better place to explain how the digital 3D spatial DNA coding works.

Save yourself the wait, and read the book yourself.

It makes inherent sense to me that genetic information is passed by discrete mathematics, and is not based upon some analog function which can vary greatly depending upon variances in the medium.

It really does not matter if a code is based upon 0-1, true/false, present/notpresent, bump/nobump, it is all binary and thus digital. That is, there is an isomorphism that is one-one and onto which allows one to convert from one space to another.


61 posted on 11/19/2009 12:12:29 PM PST by blackpacific
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In other words, you know nothing about DNA.


62 posted on 11/19/2009 1:07:27 PM PST by Wacka
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You are a negative example of what the angels said at Bethlehem.


63 posted on 11/19/2009 4:00:01 PM PST by blackpacific
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Since I am not a bible scholar what did they say?

You said DNA is binary. Show me how it is binary.


64 posted on 11/19/2009 4:08:44 PM PST by Wacka
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I already did, but since you are not a mathematician, you did not get it.

You’ll have to open the Bible and see for yourself.


65 posted on 11/19/2009 4:17:31 PM PST by blackpacific
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I’m a molecular biologist that knows what the structure of DNA is. Explain to us how you get a binary code from DNA. Enlighten us with your great mathematical skill.


66 posted on 11/19/2009 5:06:20 PM PST by Wacka
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Sounds like you invented DNA?


67 posted on 11/20/2009 4:48:44 AM PST by blackpacific
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If you know about DNA without reading that ID book, tell me how it is binary?
Come on. It is almost two days since I asked you.


68 posted on 11/20/2009 6:41:45 AM PST by Wacka
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I already did.

Unless you read and comprehend what the angels said at Bethlehem, and how you are a negative example, I cannot see any point in continuing this conversation.


69 posted on 11/20/2009 7:48:04 AM PST by blackpacific
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What do angles have to to with DNA structure relating to being binary?

You have no idea about the structure of DNA besides what you read in an ID book.
It should be simple to tell me how DNA is binary if it actually was.

The fact is you don’t know anything about what you are talking about.
Can’t back up your point with data, so stop the conversation.


70 posted on 11/20/2009 8:50:06 AM PST by Wacka
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I never said the DNA structure was binary, you said that.

You can’t follow a simple homework assignment that would take maybe 5 minutes of mousing, so I can’t help you at this point.

What you are asking me to do would not fit in this forum, as the map of the human genome fills several football fields.


71 posted on 11/21/2009 4:04:47 PM PST by blackpacific
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I never said the DNA structure was binary, you said that. You can’t follow a simple homework assignment that would take maybe 5 minutes of mousing, so I can’t help you at this point. What you are asking me to do would not fit in this forum, as the map of the human genome fills several football fields.

I quote Post #52 on this thread:

===Even a child ought to understand that DNA coding is binary, discrete, and thus digital.

Am I missing something?===

Since each base has a different structure, its coding relies on its structure. How do you get 0s and 1s from 4 bases? If what you said was true was true, you would only need to draw or discuss a short stretch, like a few bases to get your point across.

Since you still haven't, it is obvious you don't know anything about DNA. Have you isolated it, mutated it, put it in bacteria, yeast, and mice or sequenced it? Well, I have.

72 posted on 11/21/2009 4:24:29 PM PST by Wacka
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I'm so glad you can read minds, that way I don't have to explain as much. :)

Here is a hint about the sacred scripture quote, which you will still have to look up, because it is good for you. Luke 2:13-14.

The structure of DNA, since it fills 3D space, is by definition analog, having what the Greeks would call extent. But the manner in which the information held in the structure is translated to operating instructions is best understood as binary/discrete/digital.

Knowledge is what is known as a “common good”, being an immaterial quantity, while material objects can only be “private goods”. Thus a gold coin in the possession of one man necessarily means that another man does not have it. Many modern minds (many with PhDs) have the notion that if they know something, somehow that takes away from those around them.

Certainly I need to know more about the structure and function of human DNA, as it is the nexus between the operation of the immaterial upon the material world. But I have a feeling, the more I know about this blueprint, the less I am going to think that I am the measure of all things. No, I think I will be doing what the angels were doing....but I better not spoil your reading assignment.

Happy Thanksgiving! I will once again read the official Thanksgiving proclamation issued by Abraham Lincoln to my children, and having seen a plaque commemorating the passage of the Lincoln funeral train in Cable, OH just a few days ago, I will read “O Captain My Captain” by Walt Whitman to them as well. God Bless!

73 posted on 11/23/2009 2:34:29 PM PST by blackpacific
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