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Nathan Deal calls on Obama to produce birth certificate proving he's eligible for presidency
The Savannah Morning News ^ | November 18, 2009 | Larry Peterson

Posted on 11/17/2009 10:40:49 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Congressman running for governor calls on president to produce birth certificate.

It's the question that keeps poking its head up through piles of debunking documents: Is Barack Obama eligible to be president?

U.S. Rep. Nathan Deal says Obama can dispel it with a birth certificate showing he's a U.S. native and therefore qualified for the White House.

Deal, a Republican running for governor in 2010, called on Obama on Tuesday to "put the matter to rest ... and provide the documentary evidence."

But two independent fact-checking groups and the state of Hawaii say he already has. Their conclusion: Obama was born Aug. 4, 1961, in Honolulu.

Deal, who discussed the matter when a reporter asked about it earlier this month, was asked about it again Tuesday during a campaign stop in Savannah.

"My office, and I'm sure many other offices," the Gainesville lawmaker said, "continue to get inquiries. ... The president has the ability to put this to rest completely, and I think he should do that. ...

"It takes up my staff's time. We are constantly required to answer these kinds of inquiries. ... I'm willing to take his word for it, but I think he needs to convince those who still have doubts."

Under the U.S. Constitution, only native-born citizens may serve as president. Hawaii became a state in 1959.

Early in the campaign for the 2008 presidential election, critics of Obama argued he was born in another country.

Obama's presidential campaign posted online what it said was a copy of the document.

FactCheck.org said its staffers have "seen, touched and photographed" the certificate and concluded it's genuine.

PolitiFact said it sent an online copy to Hawaii's Department of Health and that the department responded the document is authentic.

The Associated Press has reported it received the same response from the department.

Both fact-checking groups have posted online rebuttals of contentions by Obama critics that the document is a fake.

And FactCheck.org has posted online a copy of a birth announcement it said was published Aug. 13, 1961, in the Honolulu Advertiser.

The announcement says a son was born to "Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama" on Aug. 4.

Several judges have rejected lawsuits based on claims Obama is not lawfully president.

In July, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs dismissed such claims as "made-up fictional nonsense."

Asked why the issue keeps surfacing, Gibbs responded, "Because, for $15, you can get an Internet address and say whatever you want."

"This question has been asked and answered, and I have no additional comment," White House Spokeswoman Gannet Tseggai said Tuesday.

Deal, due to continue campaigning in Savannah today, said he and other House members will sign a letter to Obama asking him to provide the birth certificate.

"They just want to get it off their plate," he said. "... It just needs to be put to rest."

But he did not appear eager to press the matter.

"I did not think that was an appropriate question to be asking in regard to a governor's race," he said, referring to the initial inquiry.

A reporter posed the question during what was billed as an online chat between Deal and supporters.

If Obama will "simply tell us where we should refer ... inquiries that come to our offices," he added Tuesday, "we'll do that. And we'll be satisfied."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; blackhelicopters; certifigate; conspriacytheory; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; obamao
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Gaining momentum, it seems.
1 posted on 11/17/2009 10:40:49 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: pissant; ExTexasRedhead; Sparko; trlambsr; True Republican Patriot; 3IDVET; STARWISE; Lumper20; ...
PING!!
2 posted on 11/17/2009 10:42:16 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Palin/Thompson 2012, John Bolton Sec'y of State!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

All BO produced was a Certification of Live Birth, which awaii will issue to anyone. It’s no the actual birth certificate.

The so-called “fact checking” sites KNOW that.


3 posted on 11/17/2009 10:46:11 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Asked why the issue keeps surfacing, Gibbs responded, "Because, for $15, you can get an Internet address and say whatever you want."

And when you're the POTUS with the media in your pocket and the taxpayers footing the bill for your legal defense, you can say whatever you want also.

4 posted on 11/17/2009 10:48:50 PM PST by Faith
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hear, hear!

I second that motion!


5 posted on 11/17/2009 10:51:22 PM PST by chris37
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Under the U.S. Constitution, only native-born citizens may serve as president.

Wrong!

Article II; Para. V: No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President;

Native does not equal Natural.
6 posted on 11/17/2009 10:52:27 PM PST by papasmurf (RnVjayB5b3UsIDBiYW1hLCB5b3UgcGllY2Ugb2Ygc2hpdCBjb3dhcmQh)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Under the U.S. Constitution, only native-born citizens may serve as president.

Sounds like Larry Peterson used up all his available free time to research this issue /s

An Obama rumpswab and spittle carrier.
7 posted on 11/17/2009 10:55:48 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (Yonder stands your orphan with his gun)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah, like that is going to happen...!


8 posted on 11/17/2009 10:55:53 PM PST by Deagle
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Under the U.S. Constitution, only native-born citizens may serve as president.

No credibility if they cannot even properly quote the Constitution.

It's

Natural Born Citizen

You stupid nincompoops.

Or would that be a deliberate obfuscation?

9 posted on 11/17/2009 10:57:14 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; LucyT; Fred Nerks
But two independent fact-checking groups and the state of Hawaii say he already has.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

They were not independent, they are leftist shills, and no he didn't produce anything.And the state of Hawaii has said no such thing either. Too bad the article did not mention how much money Obama has spent defendinng cases on the issue. (Ping to Georgia Governor's race, mention of Obama's qualification to hold office.)

10 posted on 11/17/2009 10:59:01 PM PST by Candor7 (The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (.Member NRA)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Here's where this is going:

"...and if elected, I pledge to sign legislation requiring all presidential candidates to provide authentic proof of natural born citizenship status prior to such names being placed on Georgia's ballots."

Bingo.

11 posted on 11/17/2009 11:02:00 PM PST by oprahstheantichrist (The MSM is a demonic stronghold, PLEASE pray accordingly - 2 Corinthians 10:3-5)
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To: Candor7

It’s amazing how many so called ‘journalists’ use factcheck as a source. Staggers the imagination.


12 posted on 11/17/2009 11:02:50 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (Yonder stands your orphan with his gun)
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To: Electric Graffiti
Yes. "Fack" Check....use it and redefine history!
13 posted on 11/17/2009 11:05:23 PM PST by Candor7 (The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (.Member NRA)
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To: El Gato; 2ndDivisionVet
Exactly! The morons are constantly saying it's all good...yet they can't even report the actual requirement accurately.

Not to mention, how can someone have their birth status governed by Great Britain, and be a NBC of the US?

14 posted on 11/17/2009 11:19:32 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
called on Obama on Tuesday

How did he call on him? By phone, a knock on the WP door, a fax, left him a vm?
15 posted on 11/17/2009 11:21:23 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: oprahstheantichrist

OH YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.


16 posted on 11/17/2009 11:22:11 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: imahawk

2012 game changer!


17 posted on 11/17/2009 11:24:43 PM PST by oprahstheantichrist (The MSM is a demonic stronghold, PLEASE pray accordingly - 2 Corinthians 10:3-5)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thanks for posting this 2nd D, This broke last week and a bunch of us called his office to thank him.The phones have not stopped ring at his offices in regards to the BC.This wont hurt him running for governor either.


18 posted on 11/17/2009 11:25:46 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: El Gato
I vote deliberate.
19 posted on 11/17/2009 11:30:43 PM PST by scott7278 (Obama, Klaatu barada nikto!)
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To: TBP
All BO produced was a Certification of Live Birth, which awaii will issue to anyone. It’s no the actual birth certificate.

Obama has only produced a .jpg image of dubious authenticity, which he has not introduced to any court of law as proof, the certified hardcopy, of being born in Hawaii.

20 posted on 11/17/2009 11:32:17 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Gibbs responded, "Because, for $15, you can get an Internet address and say whatever you want." "

Yeah, and for a million dollars or more, you can get lawyers, record officers, and the press to say anything you want THEM to say too.

If the question has already "been asked and answered", then why the big layout of money by obama to hide it? It would be very, very cheap to just get the (proper) COLB and show it, but he's showing us a B-grade certificate that anyone can get.

Which brings up the point...didn't someone recently post that obama's book said his mother and barack Sr. were not married, were never married? Also, I heard his name was once Barry Soetoro. If all that is true, how could a birth certificate be for a baby to "Mr. & Mrs. barack obama sr."?

It seems obama SR. spread his seed around a lot to a lot of different women, what with all the step-brothers obama has scattered around.

How about the name change records, and his student records with possible "exhange student" status?

No, there are just too many questions for this to be swept under the table, when it would be so easy to prove. Where there is smoke, there is fire.
21 posted on 11/17/2009 11:37:57 PM PST by FrankR (AMERICA: You'll end up where you're going, if you don't change your direction.)
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To: oprahstheantichrist

You danged right.Before that happens I want to see the majorities flip to conservatives in 2010.That will help in holding the line against this marxist and the other marxist in our congress.Wow I despise those people but probably not as bad as they despise the citizens.


22 posted on 11/17/2009 11:47:07 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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The damage is already done, now all the left and the media has to do is keep repeating it over and over until he is out of office.

Unless the evidence that can be put forth concerning his birth shocks the conscience of the nation nothing will change. Lawyers can argue in courts all across this nation about birth certificates, certificates of live birth and the lack of any other supporting documents as well as his campaign to suppress those very documents, until they are blue in the face.

In the end the left has managed to somehow raise the bar on this issue so high that no matter what we roll out it won’t be anything more than a kook conspiracy and whats more insulting is the number of spineless Repubs who have either bought into this logic or have recoiled at the thought of having to fight yet another impeachment of yet another liberal president.


23 posted on 11/17/2009 11:55:46 PM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: El Gato
It's

Natural Born Citizen

You stupid nincompoops.

Or would that be a deliberate obfuscation?

I've seen this substitution of "native born" for "natural born" in print so many times, I'm beginning to think it's not a coincidence.

It's not hard (at least in my mind) for a journalist to get hold of a copy of the U.S. Constitution (hard copy or electronic) to check the correct wording of the requirements for the Presidency in Article II.

I think some nervous editors (who knows who might be looking over their shoulders?) grab the blue pencil and make some last-minute changes to the copy, if you know what I mean.

24 posted on 11/18/2009 12:22:31 AM PST by thecodont
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To: thecodont

“I’ve seen this substitution of “native born” for “natural born” in print so many times, I’m beginning to think it’s not a coincidence.”

BINGO BUMP!

A deliberate obfuscation tactic, probably ordered by the O administration to their comrades in the state run media. It just makes it more obvious that they are hiding something that they know is going to come out eventually, so they are preparing the ground ahead of time.


25 posted on 11/18/2009 12:32:42 AM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Electric Graffiti

They use the words FACT and CHECK, and it’s nothing of the sort, but farther than what it really is.... besides, when they own the news media, they can make up what ever their evil minds want to in their perverted world.


26 posted on 11/18/2009 12:40:10 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: Candor7
Yeah, the sheeple see the words FACT and CHECK, and so, in their limited mental capabilities, they think it is so...
27 posted on 11/18/2009 12:41:36 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: El Gato
ok, let's settle what NATURAL BORN means, it means what I say it is:
Natural Born means that the person was born of both parents being US Citizens on US soil, and to the military people born over seas, both parents have to be US citizens.
28 posted on 11/18/2009 12:44:46 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Some day this will all come out, And THIS will be a big part of the kenyan's legacy, This and turning the United States into just another third world country.

Too bad people didn't listen to this guy when he said...“Obama is a radical communist and I think it is becoming clear. He is going to destroy this country and we are either going to stop him or the United States of America is going to cease to exist.”

- Alan Keyes

29 posted on 11/18/2009 1:19:34 AM PST by muddler
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To: Red Steel
Obama has only produced a .jpg image of dubious authenticity, which he has not introduced to any court of law as proof...

This is an extremely important point that, amazingly, has been totally overlooked by the MSM and even most Freepers. If the COLB proves citizenship then the Obama lawyers would be using it. Apparently they are not. So all of the FactCheckingLibSites of the world have proven exactly nothing.

Keep pounding on this. The BC issue and Sarah Palin and the Rasmussen data has the Obama team running scared.

30 posted on 11/18/2009 1:43:19 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: muddler

Big signs needed all around Washington D.C., Chicago, Mew York, Boston, Philadelphia and Los Angeles:

“Barry,why is your birth certificate a state secret?”

“Prove to the American people that you’re a natural born citizen of the U.S. This is not rocket science.”

“Stop hiding who you are.”

“Show us the birth certificate or the job goes to someone who will.”

Why are expensive lawyers helping keep your birth certificate hidden?


31 posted on 11/18/2009 2:02:36 AM PST by Mack Truck
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To: Mack Truck
“Stop hiding who you are.”

Pretty much says it all.

32 posted on 11/18/2009 2:23:34 AM PST by muddler
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To: muddler

Has Obama fired his lawyers yet?

When he ds that and allows the thing to come out in the open I will believe it.

When I see what he is doing to Amrica I believe he hates this country and is rying to destroy it. Would an American do that? I have to answer yes, because many Americans in Congress are helping him to do just that.


33 posted on 11/18/2009 2:47:57 AM PST by Venturer
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To: oprahstheantichrist
"...and if elected, I pledge to sign legislation requiring all presidential candidates to provide authentic proof of natural born citizenship status prior to such names being placed on Georgia's ballots."

I am totally amazed that at least ONE "red state" has not already passed such legislation into law. It only takes ONE state requiring this legality to fix the problem. If a candidate refuses to run in that state, it would be "sort of" an admission of guilt.

34 posted on 11/18/2009 3:17:00 AM PST by Wonder Warthog ( The Hog of Steel)
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To: El Gato

Now what do you think?


35 posted on 11/18/2009 3:20:10 AM PST by ejonesie22
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I hope Cong. Deal asks for his college records (what nationality did he apply under?) and records of his trip to Pakistan (what nationality passport did he use, as US citizens were strongly discouraged from travelling there?)


36 posted on 11/18/2009 5:10:21 AM PST by dynachrome (Barack Hussein Obama yunikku khinaaziir!)
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To: InterceptPoint

I’ve thought that too. One reason they would not have introduced the questionable COLB in court is because they have never gotten to that stage. I doubt that his lawyers would enter any evidence before the motions to dismiss are answered.

That being said, I doubt they would ever produce that COLB in a court of law.

1) The State of Hawaii would be called to tell us exactly what that COLB is or is not.

2) If it is fake. His lawyers know it and wouldn’t submit it to the court unless they want to see jail time.

3) If it is unconfirmed application information of some kind it destroys their claim that they have already provided proof.

Right now they have this piece of crap (COLB) they can point to that has no legal meaning. It’s a digital image which means nothing.

Technically, Obama has said nothing about the COLB. If it is fake or incomplete he’ll just say some over zealous campaign worker posted it online.

Regardless, Obama is a usurper if Barack Sr. is his dad but we can’t say for sure that Barack Sr. is even is father. It’s possible that an American citizen is his real father. Who knows? Natural born citizenship might not be his problem. The fact remains. He has a problem of some sort.


37 posted on 11/18/2009 5:23:47 AM PST by Smokeyblue
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It really doesn't matter.

He'll be out of office for years before anything is resolved in the courts. That's how the court system is designed - it's merely a money-churn for lawyers and judges.

And he never had any intention of running for a second term, because he knew the birth certificate issue would prevent it.

38 posted on 11/18/2009 5:45:20 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Ask not what the Kennedys can do for you, but what you can do for the Kennedys.)
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To: thecodont
I've seen this substitution of "native born" for "natural born" in print so many times, I'm beginning to think it's not a coincidence.

Yes. Being born to a US Citizen mother makes one a "natural born" citizen whether the birth occurs on the soil of Hawaii, Kenya, Antarctica, or Mars. This obfuscation is thus a necessary component of birtherist nonsense.

39 posted on 11/18/2009 9:16:38 AM PST by steve-b (Intelligent Design -- "A Wizard Did It")
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To: oprahstheantichrist
Here's where this is going: "...and if elected, I pledge to sign legislation requiring all presidential candidates to provide authentic proof of natural born citizenship status prior to such names being placed on Georgia's ballots." Bingo.

Why 'go' anywhere, just direct the Sec.State and State Police to investigate the 08 state ballot qualification documents

40 posted on 11/18/2009 9:31:05 AM PST by urtax$@work (The best kind of memorial is a Burning Memorial.........)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It was OK to question McCain’s eligabilty as the democrats
did, but you get called an idiot for questioning big O.
Why is it that big O has paid out $150,000 to date for his
lawyers to quash any attempts to examine his true birth
certificate and his college documents?
41 posted on 11/18/2009 9:46:06 AM PST by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wow, a repub with actual balls! I’m fully expecting the treasonous Obots in the rest of the GOP to start pressuring him out though.


42 posted on 11/18/2009 11:09:39 AM PST by IntolerantOfTreason (The AMERICAN President should be an AMERICAN, NOT an AFRICAN-American)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Gaining momentum, it seems.

The more he acts Un-American, the more people will want this challenged. The 9/11 trial is just a slap in our face. Thanks for the ping.

43 posted on 11/18/2009 1:51:33 PM PST by opentalk
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To: steve-b
Yes. Being born to a US Citizen mother makes one a "natural born" citizen whether the birth occurs on the soil of Hawaii, Kenya, Antarctica, or Mars.

That child may be a citizen; it doesn't follow that the child is a natural born citizen. How can you conclude the child is natural born?

44 posted on 11/18/2009 4:10:01 PM PST by 1andyman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The only thing Barry Zeero has produced thus far is a lot of propaganda, misdirection, obfuscation, and redirection.

He has produced ZERO as a factual accounting of his lineage.

Period.


45 posted on 11/18/2009 5:01:31 PM PST by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: El Gato

Of course it’s a deliberate obfuscation.

And it’s “freedom of SPEECH,” not “freedom of expression.” If the Supreme Court hadn’t invented “freedom of expression,” they’d have a tough time defending nude dancing as “speech.”


46 posted on 11/18/2009 5:15:30 PM PST by Arthur McGowan (In Edward Kennedy's America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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To: steve-b

I read your statement and see that your post is itself an obfuscation. Obfuscation is all you have.

It’s the self-imposed prison of leftist thinking. By the relativistic nature of their view of reality, leftists have forfeited their own access to rational discourse.

You shouldn’t be surprised or offended, it’s your chosen path. Alinsky came the closest to admitting the truth when he idolized the prince of chaos.


47 posted on 11/18/2009 5:15:44 PM PST by reasonisfaith (When liberal ideology is put into practice it accomplishes, universally, the opposite of its claims.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Rinos are not going to like this threat of exposure one bit. They are really dead meat when it becomes clear that Obama is not a NBC and they were in on the cover-up and traitors to the constitution.


48 posted on 11/18/2009 5:30:59 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Prediction: I think one day we will all wake up and find the White House empty, Zero and the belt lady gone, wisked off to some foriegn country in hiding (just like Osamas Family after 9/11) with lawyers in DC fighting for his legal right to return to power (like Honduras).


49 posted on 11/18/2009 5:39:36 PM PST by VastRWCon (Drill Baby Drill - Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: 1andyman
How can you conclude the child is natural born?

Because the child has citizenship by birthright, not by subsequent naturalization. Duh.

50 posted on 11/18/2009 7:29:54 PM PST by steve-b (Intelligent Design -- "A Wizard Did It")
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