Skip to comments.Senate vote today, November 19th: Disabled vets care versus subsidies for the UN bureaucracy
Posted on 11/18/2009 2:20:39 PM PST by Ooh-AhEdited on 11/18/2009 2:29:33 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
Contact your Senators and let them know what you think!
1) Make all disabled veterans eligible for the benefit, regardless of
the war in which they were injured;
2) Pay for the new benefits by reducing U.S. contributions to the
3) Ensure that the promised benefits become available immediately.
If the Senate rejects the Coburn amendment:
1) Tens of thousands of veterans who have required caregiver assistance
for decades will be denied the benefits offered to other veterans by this
2) The national debt, which just reached $12 trillion, would be
increased by more than $3.7 billion to pay for the bill because it contains
no offset for the costs of the new benefits;
3) The benefits promised will not be available for at least a year or
more, because the bill provides no immediate funding and the Senate has
already passed the appropriations bill that provides funding for the
Department of Veterans Affairs for the next year without including any
funding for this program.
Earlier this week, the Senate defeated a motion offered by Senator Coburn to
provide funding for veterans caregiver assistance by eliminating
congressional earmarks not requested by the Commander-in-Chief funded by the
Military Construction and Veterans Affairs Appropriations Act.
(The vote tally is available HERE).
Senate Democrats held a press conference just last week where they stated
no price is too high <http://www.adn.com/opinion/view/story/1007620.html to
care for our veterans. While those same Senators a week later voted
against paying the price of care for our veterans with their earmarks, tomorrow
they will have another chance to pay that price with a reduction in payments to
Good for Coburn; that is what he needs to do. Defund the Left and turn the funds over to the VA; SOME of that money will be used to help veterans.
Support Our troops PING!
I note with sadness that the one and only response to this thread was at least 4 hours ago.
Almost everyone on Free Republic is in strong support of our troops. This needs way more attention.
Let's continue to care for them. To heck with the U.N., our disabled Vets come first!
The Commie’s currently running the show in D.C. have their heads in clouds of Globalist gases, and are breathing deeply. Their high is their own self importance in all matters pertaining to the ideology attached to the One World scenario, and their Commie agenda.
2010 we must reach up and pull the chain to flush the Congressional bowl of all the Leftists up for election, and in 2012 we must continue pulling the chain to ensure all of the Leftist gasbags are flushed from the system. Some will remain for 2016, and we must flush them from the system as well. Not a speck of the Leftist residue must remain in the Congressional Bowl. Democrats, Progressives, Greenies, RINO’s. If it’s Left it must go.
Perhaps then we can get this Nation under control, and the Hell out of the useless UN.
I am still a little surprised. We need phone calls asap. People read but do they DO anything?
This is important. It’s easy to pay lip service. Support means SUPPORT. PLEASE, y’all. Call the number!
We owe these guys and gals eveything. The UN is anti-American on its face. I would prefer they get NOTHING from us, but if a few of our dollars can be subtracted from funding them and used to fund those who probably did more for the UN participants than the UN ever has, this needs our support and it needs it now.
What does it take before the United States wakes up and realizes the UN is more of a burden than its worth. Time to get out of the UN.
We need phone calls asap. People read but do they DO anything?
This is important. Its easy to pay lip service. Support means SUPPORT. PLEASE, yall. Call the number!
This is important... please call your Senators, and let them know what you think.
It is beyond DISGUSTING that they should even have to *choose*.
I will make that call.
Thank you, LucyT, and 444Flier. We WANT THIS!!!!
I haven’t really been online much the past few days. I have passed it along via emails. And bump!
Thank you, azishot. I called earlier, several times from both telephone numbers. LOL
I know. I missed ya. Thanks for passing it on. WE WANT THIS!!!!
I bet if jim rob took a poll on threads where there were few comments, but call for action..percentage of people who took action would be high. I am surprised there haven’t bumps by the activists though.
Click to add front page to the “topic” and check all of the states. That will increase exposure to the thread 100 fold.
Nevermind I’ll get on computer and do it real fast.
See. WE BE THE ACTIVISTS! That’s what I’m talkin’ about.
Done..it’s on the front page and all of the state pages.
and editiorial and extended news.. Gotta go bump!
Great idea. I’m sick of funding the UN, which has gradually turned from its founding principles into nothing but a bureaucracy run by thugs, Muslims, Communists, and terrorists.
I was hoping maybe we would act when the Oil for Food scandal broke, and support for the UN had diminished among the voters.
Who do we want to fund, our veterans, or a bunch of freeloading child sex slavers?
This shoud be a no brainer even amongst the dems with no brains. Unfortunately, it probably isn’t.
Bump to frmail... :)
What a good idea! (Why didn't I think of that? Smack myself upside the head.)
Will email this far and wide!
You’re welcome, MestaMachine.
This is why I depend on my *pingers*.
Oh, Good Lord..I’ll be on the phones first thing!!!! This has got to stop...all of it..and NOW!
Anyone know what time the vote is?
Sorry...I don’t know.
I don’t trust this group at all. Who knows they could be voting on it right now.
Bumpin it up!
UN money is wasted money.
The un is a waste..and full of freedom grabbers.
This is what is being voted on:
This is Coburn’s latest update:
Coburn’s efforts to improve the Caregiver and Veterans Omnibus Health Services Act
November 18, 2009
The Senate will soon debate S. 1963, the Caregiver and Veterans Omnibus Health Services Act. The bill contains many provisions regarding caregiver assistance, rural health care for veterans, construction of VA facilities, and several pilot programs. However, the issue that has garnered the most attention is the caregiver assistance.
S.1963 creates a new VA program that provides caregivers of severely disabled wartime veterans the following new benefits. Typically the VA does not provide benefits for non-veterans, this program would be an exception to that. This bill proposes
monthly stipends for caregivers of disabled wartime veterans (CBO estimates around $2300 per month maximum)
health coverage for caregivers (if they do not have health insurance)
travel benefits for caregivers (lodging and per diem when taking veterans to VA hospitals)
training for caregivers to provide proper medical care and assistance
However, S.1963 as written only provides benefits to veterans injured after September 11, 2001. Also, the bill does not identify a source of funding to pay for the increased spending.
Dr. Coburns amendment opens the eligibility for this program to ALL veterans who are severely disabled from wartime service. He also directs that the Secretary of State should transfer funding out of the U.S. contribution to the United Nations to the VA to pay for this program.
If Dr. Coburns amendment is not adopted, and S.1963 becomes law, it will exclude a large number of severely disabled wartime veterans from these benefits benefits, maintain funding for the UN, and increase the already massive national debt.
My daughter called me from Denver on Veterans Day. I told her that for the first time in 15 or so years we were having a parade and reception in this little town I live in. She said on the campus where she goes to school veterans were demonstrating because many on them have not yet received GI bill money they were approved for. These are Afghanistan and Iraq veterans.
I was just getting ready to post a google search link for that..guess I’ll do it anyway. Can’t use bing on this phone yet.
S. 1963 Caregiver and Veterans Omnibus Health Services Act
This bill unfairly discriminates against severely disabled veterans from prior wars, many of whom have needed caregiver assistance for decades and were not the beneficiary of recent advancements in military medical care.
There are currently 35,000 veterans receiving aid and attendance benefits from the Department of Veterans Affairs. Out of this population, around 2,000 veterans received their injuries after September 11 and would qualify for extra caregiver assistance in this bill. Caregivers for 33,000 veterans of prior wars would not.
Our nation faces a severe long-term fiscal crisis. If we dont start paying for new programs were not going to have a country left to defend. The bill is not paid for by identifying any wasteful, duplicative, or obsolete federal programs and represents a false promise intended more to help DC politicians and lobbyists than veterans in need.
CBO estimates that the bill will cost $3.9 billion over five years if all funds are appropriated that are authorized. However, if the funds are not appropriated, then this benefit will amount to an empty promise to veterans. As written, this is a press release bill intended to bolster the image of politicians and lobbyists among veterans. When the bill passes, no funding is ensured and any funding that may eventually be provided will be borrowed.
Sure could use some ping lists for our disabled veterans!
How many phone calls and/or emails? That’s what I want to know.
Ping for Veteran’s care!
Called my Senators and left messages for both. Will be calling them again first thing in the A.M.. (I have had a crazy night! Good to see so many hits in the last hour or two!)
Thanks, 444Flier. It’s a love thing.
Bump Before Bed...