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Helen Thomas: "Declare Victory, Leave Afghanistan--Obama's Decision..." [WARNING: GRAPHIC IMAGES]
TheBostonChannel.com ^ | 18 Nov 09 | Helen "Cut and Run" Thomas

Posted on 11/19/2009 1:24:09 PM PST by seanmerc

WASHINGTON -- The Nobel Peace crown lies uneasy on President Barack Obama’s head as he ponders the next U.S. move in Afghanistan, with hints and leaks showering down to tell us that he will eventually send thousands more troops there.

His decision -- which could be announced soon -- was triggered by the request from Gen. Stanley McChrystal for 40,000 more troops to secure the cities and protect the citizens of Afghanistan, in addition to the 68,000 U.S. troops there now.

Obama has been reviewing the U.S. role in Afghanistan for months, a time-consuming study that has led to accusations from conservative pundits that he is "dithering" and afraid to make a decision. Few, if any, of those pundits have been to war.

By taking time and seeking opinion from all sides, this president actually looks careful and deliberate, compared to his predecessor, who rushed to invade Iraq under wrong pretexts.

It’s easy for Obama to appease the armchair hawks-- critics like former Vice President Dick Cheney, who managed to dodge the draft as a student during the Vietnam War era. All Obama has to do is give the go-ahead for more drone-dropping bombs on Taliban and al Qaida leaders.

The tougher decision is whether to bolster the numbers of GIs in Afghanistan. And the answer to that question depends on what the U.S. strategy is there.

The reason we have fighting forces in Afghanistan is that, 10 years ago, it was a failed state where the 9/11 plotters could practice their evil in a vacuum, without fear of local authorities.

Withdrawal from the Afghanistan quagmire is not an option for Obama. Even though he inherited the war, the president has embraced it. And he has done so without a whiff of domestic political protest. There are no visible peace makers, no loud protesters chanting "how many kids did you kill today?"-- those painful anti-Vietnam war slogans Presidents Lyndon B. Johnson and Richard M. Nixon were forced to endure daily in the late 1960s and early 1970s.

More poignantly in the aftermath of receiving the Nobel Peace Prize, Obama attended two national memorial services -- one for the victims of the Fort Hood massacre and the other for the dead in all wars at the Nov. 11 Veterans Day ceremonies.

Those provided opportunities for the president to announce that the U.S. would not be a party to further mayhem and that we would be a leader in the search for peace, a word not heard in the White House in recent years.

If Obama cannot learn from the lessons of Vietnam, he is bound to repeat the mistakes from that debacle that besmirched two presidents.

As Obama weighs Gen. McChrystal’s request for more troops, he should recall what President Johnson told reporters. All he ever heard from the generals, LBJ said, was "more, more troops" and we will win the Vietnam War. Well, we didn’t.

U.S. Ambassador Karl Eikenberry -- a retired general who had been the top military commander in Afghanistan up to 2007-- has reportedly sent two cables to Obama objecting to the dispatch of more troops.

Matthew Hoh, a State Department official in Afghanistan quit his post to protest the reality that Americans were dying there, "fighting and dying for the Karzai regime."

Both Eikenberry and Hoh said they were concerned about corruption in the Karzai regime.

The president should listen to these men who have been there and who are sending warnings to him against escalating the war.

He also should consider the high human cost of war on all sides, in terms of Americans killed by Taliban and al Qaida and in terms of the innocent Afghan civilians who happened to be too near a bomb target.

This war looks like an expensive, endless gopher hole where we can pour our blood and our treasure that could be used to help the Afghan poor and the American people suffering from job loss and poverty.

Obama is facing probably one of the most crucial decisions of his presidency -- one that will define him in history and test his courage to choose peace over war. Yes he can.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
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I'm baaaaack!
1 posted on 11/19/2009 1:24:13 PM PST by seanmerc
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To: beckysueb; DirtyHarryY2K; holly go-rightly; Jet Jaguar; Lauren BaRecall; LucyT; machogirl; ...
Yoo-hoo, Helen Thomas ping list members! FReepmail me if you'd like to be added to the list.
2 posted on 11/19/2009 1:25:30 PM PST by seanmerc
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To: seanmerc

For the love of God, man! Please stop! I’ll tell you anything! Aaaaaaah! My eyes!


3 posted on 11/19/2009 1:27:21 PM PST by turfmann
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To: turfmann

4 posted on 11/19/2009 1:29:46 PM PST by seanmerc
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To: turfmann

5 posted on 11/19/2009 1:32:41 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: seanmerc
My Eyes!!! My Eyes!!!!!

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6 posted on 11/19/2009 1:34:24 PM PST by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: seanmerc

My eyes. It burns!

Couldn’t we just drop her on Afghanistan and solve two problems?


7 posted on 11/19/2009 1:34:37 PM PST by OpeEdMunkey (Eat right...exercise...die anyway)
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To: seanmerc

"C'mon,it waz supper time"

8 posted on 11/19/2009 1:42:11 PM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Doogle

9 posted on 11/19/2009 1:46:17 PM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: seanmerc
"She" writes: Few, if any, of those pundits have been to war.

Like "she" has. Well it does look like "she" was in a terrible explosion or accident at some time during "her" life!

10 posted on 11/19/2009 1:48:43 PM PST by Edgerunner (Second Amendment Spoken Here)
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To: seanmerc

Why do you keep showing that picture of the dog?

What has he to do with Helen Thomas?


11 posted on 11/19/2009 1:59:38 PM PST by eCSMaster
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To: FromLori

:)


12 posted on 11/19/2009 2:11:17 PM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: eCSMaster

UH .. That’s a cat and the picture speaks for itself.


13 posted on 11/19/2009 2:12:22 PM PST by plinyelder
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To: eCSMaster

it’s armed to defend itself


14 posted on 11/19/2009 2:12:37 PM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: eCSMaster

Sorry .. My mistake.

(The Cat one Is Funny though)


15 posted on 11/19/2009 2:14:09 PM PST by plinyelder
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To: seanmerc

16 posted on 11/19/2009 2:17:05 PM PST by MaryFromMichigan
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To: seanmerc
Good to to see ya! :D

Sharon Den Adel
IS THIS, ENOUGH EYE WASH?
Helen of Thomas: The face that launched a thousand quips.
Helen of Thomas: The face that launched a thousand lunches....from Dr.Zoidberg

17 posted on 11/19/2009 2:26:44 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Zer0 to the voter: "Welcome to 'MY' DeathCARE ® Plan"...Sucker! ...now just die. :^)
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To: MaryFromMichigan

I saw the picture you posted. I was forcefully both attracted and repulsed. The resultant emotional and cognitive dissonance made my head explode.

Thanks a lot.


18 posted on 11/19/2009 2:27:27 PM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality.)
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To: skinkinthegrass
Thank you ,that stopped the Yorkie barking but not her very severe diarrhea. Send another and I'll be grateful.
19 posted on 11/19/2009 2:48:43 PM PST by TET1968 (SI MINOR PLUS EST ERGO NIHIL SUNT OMNIA)
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To: paulycy
I was forcefully both attracted and repulsed.

I am both pleased and chagrined.
20 posted on 11/19/2009 2:48:50 PM PST by MaryFromMichigan
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To: TET1968
...I have / had others, but the censors always deleted them....Hmmm.

21 posted on 11/19/2009 2:54:20 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Zer0 to the voter: "Welcome to 'MY' DeathCARE ® Plan"...Sucker! ...now just die. :^)
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To: skinkinthegrass

Veeryy Gouda...


22 posted on 11/19/2009 3:01:19 PM PST by Hoosier-Daddy ("It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: seanmerc

She thinks we should use the money to help the Afghan poor and our own poor. I guess she hasn’t learned from Arafat. Money poured in to help the Palestinians. They stayed poor rabble... but Arafat got very rich.

Giving money to corrupt regimes is pouring money down a gopher hole, Helen. What a babe in the woods you are.


23 posted on 11/19/2009 4:44:24 PM PST by Melian ("A little nonsense now and then, is cherished by the wisest men. ~Willy Wonka)
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To: seanmerc

Glad you’re back, seanmerc! I needed a laugh today.


24 posted on 11/19/2009 4:45:18 PM PST by Melian ("A little nonsense now and then, is cherished by the wisest men. ~Willy Wonka)
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To: seanmerc

OMG, 6 tons of ugly, not to mention stupid.


25 posted on 11/19/2009 5:33:46 PM PST by eaglesiniowa ((Hope is not a course of action))
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To: Edgerunner

‘accusations from conservative pundits that he is “dithering” and afraid to make a decision. Few, if any, of those pundits have been to war.’

And fewer liberal pundits (who are MANY, may I add) have been.


26 posted on 11/19/2009 6:32:19 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: skinkinthegrass

(OK, I’ve had it: why is there a comma in there?)


27 posted on 11/19/2009 6:34:47 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
(OK, I’ve had it: why is there a comma in there?)

...pubic edukation. :)


28 posted on 11/19/2009 7:04:54 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Zer0 to the voter: "Welcome to 'MY' DeathCARE ® Plan"...Sucker! ...now just die. :^)
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