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Is This T-Shirt Praying for Obama's Assassination?
MS DNC ^ | 11/19/09 | Andrew Greiner

Posted on 11/19/2009 5:36:48 PM PST by Nachum

A new Biblical Obama slogan making the rounds on conservative T-shirts and bumper stickers is being interpreted as calling for the president's death.

The slogan “Pray for Obama: Psalm 109:8” seems innocent enough, but the actual verse reads: “Let his days be few; and let another take his office.”

The psalm goes on to say: "May his children be orphans, and his wife a widow." Read the entire psalm here.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


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KEYWORDS: assassination; obamas; praying; tshirt
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How about this one then...

May God bless and keep Obama and his czars- far away from us.

1 posted on 11/19/2009 5:36:49 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

One of my favorite, “Fiddler on the Roof”...great line then and now.


2 posted on 11/19/2009 5:39:27 PM PST by maeng
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To: Nachum

Well, God said it, not us. So let it be written, so let it be done.


3 posted on 11/19/2009 5:40:46 PM PST by shiva
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To: shiva

May God smite him right out of office into a jail cell.


4 posted on 11/19/2009 5:41:59 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: Nachum

Obama being assassinated would be awful...Imagine how much more socialism would become law with the rally cry “Do it for Obama!”


5 posted on 11/19/2009 5:42:59 PM PST by chae (I am karmic retribution)
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To: Nachum

It doesn’t say Psalms 109, Verse 9.


6 posted on 11/19/2009 5:43:20 PM PST by tobyhill (The Communist has arrived)
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To: Nachum

“The Christian Science Monitor asked a few people if the slogan could be considered hate speech.”

Sure why not. Today hate speech is defined as everything from passing gas in the theater line to naughty fortune cookies. Why not the bible now, which most of them consider meaningless jibber.


7 posted on 11/19/2009 5:43:29 PM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: tobyhill

You got that right.

These people are implying things, that anyone who knows HOW to look up Bible verses, knows are NOT true.

But those who don’t, well, talk about stirring the pot.


8 posted on 11/19/2009 5:46:53 PM PST by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: Nachum

I’m not religious, but isn’t there a Bible verse about “Curse the dirty moslem diaper-head traitor back to his communist homeland?”


9 posted on 11/19/2009 5:47:06 PM PST by Islam=Murder (Hitler hated his Jewish side, Omoslem hates his white side.)
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To: Nachum

I think the Bible verse about “worshipping a golden calf” was written about Omoslem.


10 posted on 11/19/2009 5:48:05 PM PST by Islam=Murder (Hitler hated his Jewish side, Omoslem hates his white side.)
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To: Nachum

Heck, THOU SHALT NOT STEAL seems like a relevant text these days....


11 posted on 11/19/2009 5:49:26 PM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: Nachum

Everyone better hope NOTHING happens to Omoslem.

If it did, he’d be martyred, and that would advance the cause of Jihad.


13 posted on 11/19/2009 5:49:38 PM PST by Islam=Murder (Hitler hated his Jewish side, Omoslem hates his white side.)
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To: Nachum
Not even obvious. THIS is a shirt that advocates murdering a President:
14 posted on 11/19/2009 5:49:52 PM PST by FLAMING DEATH (Are you better off than you were $4 trillion ago?)
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To: Drango
After the movies, books and political hate speech the left dumped who the heck cares what they think.

I hope they are insulted, I think it's a great idea to keep on insulting them to the point they snap. F - em all

15 posted on 11/19/2009 5:50:20 PM PST by reefdiver (So how's that HOPE & CHANGE working out for ya ?)
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To: Nachum

Can we use verses from the Koran?


16 posted on 11/19/2009 5:51:37 PM PST by MaxMax (Obamao can't play in the Olympic reindeer games)
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To: Islam=Murder
“Curse the dirty moslem diaper-head traitor back to his communist homeland?

Certainly. It is in the "Book of laminations"

17 posted on 11/19/2009 5:51:41 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: tobyhill

Quite true, typically disingenuous to suggest otherwise.


18 posted on 11/19/2009 5:52:40 PM PST by Hugin (Sarah Palin: accept no substitutes!)
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To: Nachum

I like that so much, Im going to use it


19 posted on 11/19/2009 5:53:45 PM PST by reefdiver (“Let his days be few; and let another take his office.”)
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To: Nachum

Oh Divine Providence, We beseech thee
protect our beleaguered nation and it’s
suffering people from further democrat “Victories”. Amen.


20 posted on 11/19/2009 5:53:57 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: MaxMax
Can we use verses from the Koran?

That would be racist!

(go right ahead)

21 posted on 11/19/2009 5:54:02 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Clueless Joe is Obama’s best protection against assassination.


22 posted on 11/19/2009 5:54:30 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Nope. Not gonna do it.)
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To: Nachum

I don’t think so, about the T shirt, but I do remember a certain “comedy” show that had a picture of President Bush on the screen with the caption “Wanted Dead or Alive”. (or something like that)


23 posted on 11/19/2009 5:56:05 PM PST by FrdmLvr ("The people will believe what the media tells them they believe." Orwell)
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To: Nachum

I don’t buy this.

It presumes a liberal would actually open up and read a Bible.


24 posted on 11/19/2009 5:56:18 PM PST by OrangeHoof ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Bend over suckahs".)
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To: Nachum

>Scholars contend that the entire chapter is a plea for God to smite an evil man.

And since when is hating evil bad? The bible says this about it:
— The fear of the Lord is to hate all evil.

>Going beyond simple ill will, the psalm asks that that the victim lose all his worldly goods, that his orphans be abandoned, that his father be remembered as a sinner, and finally, that “his memory be cut off from the earth.”

Now I’m a believer that people shouldn’t be condemned by the actions of their relatives... but why is it bad to “call a spade a spade” and want an evil man to be remembered as a sinner? {I don’t recall a huge attempt by modern cultures to paint Hitler, the secular ‘evil-man’ as a good-guy... try selling Mein Kampf in Germany if you doubt me.}

>Those with knowledge of the bible say the passage, which is part of a class of psalms called “imprectory” prayers, should not be used at all.

Hm, would that be the same people who insist that God is love... while conveniently forgetting that He is a Just and Righteous God? The sort of people who say that the Sermon on the Mount should be taken to mean that a “good Christian” should never be offended, go to court, or stand against the wicked?


25 posted on 11/19/2009 5:59:28 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Drango

Hate speech against Obama........compared to what?

Hate speech against Sarah Palin

Hate speech against President GW Bush

Hate speech against conservatives


26 posted on 11/19/2009 5:59:28 PM PST by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: Morgana; Nachum
No doubt Biblical scholars have a background in figuring out what various verses say, but MSNBC has no credentials whatsoever in that regard.

Take their question as being merely rhetorical and give them this answer ~ see a trusted rabbi, minister, priest or other Christian or Jewish advisor on this matter.

27 posted on 11/19/2009 6:03:08 PM PST by muawiyah (Git Out The Way)
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To: tobyhill
It doesn’t say Psalms 109, Verse 9.

That's right!

But, if they're going to start pulling from other parts of the Bible, maybe they should start at the beginning.

They may just learn something!

28 posted on 11/19/2009 6:03:17 PM PST by moovova (More coffee please...make it a double.)
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To: Nachum
A new Biblical Obama slogan making the rounds on conservative T-shirts and bumper stickers is being interpreted as calling for the president's death.

Ahhhhh...so it's only being "interpreted" that way.

I guess that's about as fair and balanced as Ms.NBC can come.

Ah, well. It's a start.

29 posted on 11/19/2009 6:04:54 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Drango

Disagreeing with liberals is hate speech. Next on, staying silent when liberals call for support will be hate speech. Or hate silence, I should say. Or the silence of hate.


30 posted on 11/19/2009 6:05:26 PM PST by libh8er
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To: Nachum
There is no "offensiveness" in that shirt.

The slogan refers to ONE verse. Not the entire Psalm.

BTW, MSNBC....."bible" is properly CAPITALIZED! As in "Bible".

Ignorant infidels. *dismissed with the wave of a hand, middle finger extended*

31 posted on 11/19/2009 6:08:51 PM PST by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: FrdmLvr
I don’t think so, about the T shirt, but I do remember a certain “comedy” show that had a picture of President Bush on the screen with the caption “Wanted Dead or Alive”. (or something like that)

It was CBS's Late Show in 2000.

32 posted on 11/19/2009 6:12:39 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: Nachum
It is a prayer for the justice of God not assassination.
33 posted on 11/19/2009 6:14:41 PM PST by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: Nachum
Geez, someone outta send this little gold nugget to the idiots....

Freakin hypocrites!!

34 posted on 11/19/2009 6:17:53 PM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: PapaBear3625

Thanks. I hope they try to make a big deal out of this so-called 0bama assassination. If they do, this image of President Bush needs to be plastered everywhere. I can’t stand this double standard, and I think people who missed it the first time around and who are now waking up will be interested in this.


35 posted on 11/19/2009 6:18:17 PM PST by FrdmLvr ("The people will believe what the media tells them they believe." Orwell)
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To: FLAMING DEATH

Nice find


36 posted on 11/19/2009 6:18:27 PM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Nachum

Is this the thread to send insults to the Secret Service?


37 posted on 11/19/2009 6:20:11 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Nachum

>Scholars contend that the entire chapter is a plea for God to smite an evil man.

And since when is hating evil bad? The bible says this about it:
— The fear of the Lord is to hate all evil.

>Going beyond simple ill will, the psalm asks that that the victim lose all his worldly goods, that his orphans be abandoned, that his father be remembered as a sinner, and finally, that “his memory be cut off from the earth.”

Now I’m a believer that people shouldn’t be condemned by the actions of their relatives... but why is it bad to “call a spade a spade” and want an evil man to be remembered as a sinner? {I don’t recall a huge attempt by modern cultures to paint Hitler, the secular ‘evil-man’ as a good-guy... try selling Mein Kampf in Germany if you doubt me.}

>Those with knowledge of the bible say the passage, which is part of a class of psalms called “imprectory” prayers, should not be used at all.

Hm, would that be the same people who insist that God is love... while conveniently forgetting that He is a Just and Righteous God? The sort of people who say that the Sermon on the Mount should be taken to mean that a “good Christian” should never be offended, go to court, or stand against the wicked?


38 posted on 11/19/2009 6:20:20 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: shiva

Amen


39 posted on 11/19/2009 6:23:51 PM PST by Psalm 144 (What did you think NEW WORLD ORDER meant? The Constitution? States' rights? Individual liberty?)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Love the post. Love the name. Love the tagline.


40 posted on 11/19/2009 6:24:57 PM PST by esquirette (If we do not know our own worldview, we will accept theirs.)
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To: Some Fat Guy in L.A.

Don’t forget Pelosi.

On election night my granddaughter was near tears, she wouldn’t talk to anyone and then she piped up and asked what if something happened to 0bama? I told her the Biden would be president, she didn’t like that and asked what if something happened to him and I told her that Pelosi would be president and then I said, pray for 0bama.


41 posted on 11/19/2009 6:25:08 PM PST by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: Morgana
I want to forget him!

THere are many things we'd like to forget, but we remember that we do not make the same mistake twice.

I pray we never forget, for there is already enough to remember.

42 posted on 11/19/2009 6:27:11 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: chae

:Do it for Obama”

When LBJ killed JFK it worked very well, didn’t it? LBJ’s great society, civil rights bill etc. all were as a result of JFK’s death.

We owe LBJ a great deal of gratitude according to some. He started us on the path to Obama as these guys obviously understand how to tell the big lie just like LBJ and Hoover did.


43 posted on 11/19/2009 6:27:13 PM PST by scgator
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Is this the thread to send insults to the Secret Service?

I am sure they watch as much as they can, wherever they can. After all, they are consummate professionals who work very hard and dedicate themselves and sometimes their lives to their job.

In fact, they work so hard, I think they should all get a month off...

44 posted on 11/19/2009 6:31:05 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: scgator
When LBJ killed JFK it worked very well, didn’t it?

Give it a rest. Can't we get through November without you truthers telling the same lies over and over?

45 posted on 11/19/2009 6:42:20 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: chae

And every street sign, highway, school, medical office would be the Hussein Obimbo memorial road or building. Oh, please, Lord, take care of this man until he resigns, is impeached or gets voted out. Don’t let him have lung cancer like the tabloids are claiming or any other type of circumstance that could possibly cause his demise. Please, oh please, for the peace of the rest of us, let him live!! Oh, and while I am praying, let him fail at everything he tries to do.


46 posted on 11/19/2009 6:43:04 PM PST by I_be_tc
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To: Nachum

I think people should grow up and knock this crap off. Our nation seems to be descending into anarchy; conservatives don’t need to follow the left off the same cliff.

I would want the Code Pink crowd arrested, if they said stuff like this against President Palin.


47 posted on 11/19/2009 6:47:06 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (The End of an Error - 01/20/2013)
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To: Nachum
This verse was cited in Acts 1 by the apostles when they appointed Matthias to replace Judas. So it refers to Judas.

I doubt the tee shirt creator intended for people to pray for Obama’s death—just that his days in office be few. And regardless of his/her intent, in the original Psalm David DID pray for his enemy's death.

48 posted on 11/19/2009 6:47:34 PM PST by Forgiven_Sinner (For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son that whosoever believes in Him should not die)
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To: chae
We sure as hell DO NOT need a MARTYR! Better THIS:

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BE STILL MY HEART!

49 posted on 11/19/2009 6:48:07 PM PST by Dick Bachert ('08 WASN'T AN ELECTION. IT WAS AN INFESTATION. FUMIGATION HAS ALREADY BEGUN!)
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To: Islam=Murder

Islam hadn’t been invented yet when that was written.


50 posted on 11/19/2009 6:48:41 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Pray for Obama...Psalms 109:8)
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