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Tom Cruise and Scientology: there's more
Guardian UK ^ | 11/19/09

Posted on 11/19/2009 8:00:59 PM PST by Nachum

A new book claims the Top Gun star had a tendency to chat to ashtrays, bottles and other inanimate objects

Just a teeny tiny amount of space left to say, hey, guess what? Tom Cruise? He's a bit fricking weird! Yuhdoansay.

In Blown For Good, the latest book by an escapee from the Galactic Confederacy, AKA Scientology, Marc Headley claims that Cruise would talk to inanimate objects "for hours". No, not Nicole Kidman's face, but ashtrays, bottles, books. "You tell the ashtray, 'Sit in that chair.' Then you actually go over and put the ashtray in that chair. Then you tell the ashtray, 'Thank you,'" is Headley's account of Tom's personal teachings. And to all of you out there thinking, "Well, telling an ashtray thank you sounds a lot more fun than having to share a set for God knows how many weeks with Dustin Hoffman banging on about Qantas," I got there first.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cruise; cult; more; scientology; tom

1 posted on 11/19/2009 8:01:02 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcfNmGrb4vo


2 posted on 11/19/2009 8:04:33 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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To: Nachum

If ‘Blown for Good’ is the same person on forums I’m thinking about.....it ought to be good.


3 posted on 11/19/2009 8:06:41 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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To: Nachum

http://blownforgood.com/


4 posted on 11/19/2009 8:10:50 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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To: Nachum
Scientology: Sure it's silly and expensive. But it's his money and he doesn't have to blow other people up to reamin a member in good standing. Count your blessings. He could easily be giving his 30% to World Wildlife, Earth First! or any one of a dozen other libtard outfits that do way more harm.
5 posted on 11/19/2009 8:11:52 PM PST by FredZarguna (Whether it's in, Oakland or Marin, we're with you all the way across The Bay.)
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To: Nachum

DUH


6 posted on 11/19/2009 8:18:49 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Nachum
Art imitating life?

7 posted on 11/19/2009 8:31:53 PM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: FredZarguna

There are things worse than supporting and promoting a criminal enterprise that abuses people and their families, but I don’t think WWF qualifies yet.

Scientology is far from harmless.


8 posted on 11/19/2009 8:38:39 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Nachum
Cruise is evidence that a person can even get too weird for Hollywood. The larger populace across the country that actually supports the outlandish Hollywood lifestyles by going to movies has it's limits. His career is in a death spiral and he is too vain and nutty to understand the why. It's a shame really for he is a fine actor.
9 posted on 11/19/2009 9:15:29 PM PST by dog breath
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To: D-fendr

There are things worse than supporting and promoting a criminal enterprise that abuses people and their families, but I don’t think WWF qualifies yet.

I just don’t know how people can watch that wrestling stuff.


10 posted on 11/19/2009 9:19:52 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68

Hehehe.

Now, UFC is a whole ‘nuther thing.


11 posted on 11/19/2009 9:34:24 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Nachum

bookmark


12 posted on 11/19/2009 9:47:57 PM PST by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: SERKIT

He was GREAT in that movie. Put him in a whole new light and redeemed himself quite a bit in my eyes!


13 posted on 11/19/2009 9:58:06 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: Nachum

Sounds like a Tone 40 exercise. Not exactly Operating Thetan level stuff, I think they learn this in the Comm Courses. Either that or the regular pre-auditor stuff. Auditors have to thank the auditee after every interaction.


14 posted on 11/19/2009 9:58:14 PM PST by Caesar Soze
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To: D-fendr
I didn't say it was harmless. What I did say was that there were worse causes that he could waste his money on. As a skeptic of all religions, including atheism, I think they're all harmful. Until Reform Christianity made its debut -- fifteen centuries into the process, no less -- the Roman Church routinely tortured and murdered people in the name of God. Even so, it took another two hundred years for what was largely a secular Enlightenment to fully suppress the demons of Christianity's darker nature. If Scientology is still around in 1500 years -- a prospect I highly doubt -- we'll see if it has done as much damage.
15 posted on 11/19/2009 11:12:59 PM PST by FredZarguna (Whether it's in, Oakland or Marin, we're with you all the way across The Bay.)
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To: Nachum
from a week ago...

Coast to Coast AM 11/14/09: Scientology Revelations
16 posted on 11/19/2009 11:20:28 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Nachum

Acting is a weird life/profession. Look at people like Heath Ledger as exhibit A. Modern acting, to be good and compelling requires that the actor go deeper and deeper into very strange places in their soul. The result for that person is not always good. We enjoy the fruits of their labor, and then sit back and bemoan the fact that they went off the deep end.

It obviously doesn’t happen every time to every one, but it happens enough to make me say it’s no coincidence.

There have always been actors and there always will be, but in some sense it’s a dangerous mental journey.

That’s my take on it, anyway.

The business with the ashtray and talking to it - I could very easily imagine that that could be an exercise given to acting students just as easily as it could be prima facie evidence that Cruise is nuttier than squirrel poop.


17 posted on 11/20/2009 5:09:42 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
Julie Andrews and Blake Edwards used to have the office suite next to our seafood importing place....great and normal people.

They moved to new digs down the street, but continued to invite us over for their Christmas party - Cruise's production office was across the hall, and his staffers would also show up......a very strange crew; like something out of Mad Magazine.

18 posted on 11/20/2009 5:18:51 AM PST by ErnBatavia (Obama is a DIC....... Ditherer-in-Chief)
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To: ErnBatavia

Great story!


19 posted on 11/20/2009 5:46:55 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: FredZarguna

Where to begin..

Scientology is not a religion - except for tax purposes. I realize that in your view that’s a feather in its cap.

The “Enlightened” French Terror was quite demonic as was the “secular” Stalin and Mao.


20 posted on 11/20/2009 7:45:04 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
Modern acting, to be good and compelling requires that the actor go deeper and deeper into very strange places in their soul.

I work in the profession occasionally and that is so true. Well said.

21 posted on 11/20/2009 8:00:42 AM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: D-fendr
Stalin and Mao were motivated by a religion as well.

To compare the French Terror, which lasted fourteen months, in scope or duration to the depredations of either Communism or Christianity is to betray an ignorance of history so thorough that it's no surprise you have no idea where to begin.

As for Scientology not being a religion, I'm sure to a practitioner of some other silly nonsense it doesn't seem like one, but it is. Body Thetans are no stupider (or any more real) than demons, angels, or the Easter Bunny. Hubbard may not have been sincere in his belief in these things, but Tom Cruise and others like him are. That parallels the development of plenty of "spiritual" mumbo-jumbo over the ages.

In my view, the tax deduction granted to all the businesses that call themselves "faiths." Ought to be abolished.

22 posted on 11/20/2009 10:31:09 AM PST by FredZarguna (Sean Connery to perform the voiceover of Sarah's book on CD: Going Brogue.)
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To: FredZarguna

Communism is anti-religion. No matter it’s length, The Terror is a contradiction to your point.

Also, to apply medieval or earlier standards to religion and human behaviour today is anachronistic. By that standard, we should cut Scientology some slack so long as they don’t use the rack.

I also must conclude you’re unaware of the full history of Scientology.

Bottom line on your main point: “there were worse causes that he could waste his money on” - illogical.

So long as there are worse things someone could do, we cannot criticize what they do?


23 posted on 11/20/2009 10:45:12 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr
Yeah, you're right. The priests of Scientology are raping young men and boys and pushing Communism in Central America and Welfare Statism throughout the developed World.

Oh, wait, that's the Church of Rome.

It's come so far since the Middle Ages.

Not.

24 posted on 11/20/2009 11:57:12 AM PST by FredZarguna (Sean Connery to perform the voiceover of Sarah's book on CD: Going Brogue.)
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To: FredZarguna

If your point is anti-Catholicism, that belongs on another thread.

Your position on this thread remains illogical and ignorant of Scientology.


25 posted on 11/20/2009 1:05:42 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr
You raised the issue of Medieval standards as a basis of comparison, which you're now running away from. Thanks for conceding the point. We don't need to go back that far in order to establish that Scientology is not really worse than other putative "mainstream" religions.

Please do attempt to point out to me how Scientology is actually worse than any other major religion. And please don't bother if you're going to claim that it isn't a religion under your own personal and highly selective "definition." It walks like a Church and quacks like a Church. It's a Church.

You want me to concede the point that Scientology is evil. OK: like all organized religion, it's evil. That still makes it relatively harmless compared to most causes that Tom Cruise could be contributing to. World Wild Life is one of the outfits Hollywood libtards love. It's one of the leading advocates for AGW, a cause which has already cost hundreds of billions of dollars in the developed world, and will be responsible for even more mischief in years to come.

My point stands. When you have some facts and logic, come back. Otherwise stop wasting my time.

26 posted on 11/20/2009 1:39:35 PM PST by FredZarguna (Sean Connery to perform the voiceover of Sarah's book on CD: Going Brogue.)
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To: FredZarguna
You raised the issue of Medieval standards

No, it's your post:

"Until Reform Christianity made its debut -- fifteen centuries into the process, no less -- the Roman Church routinely tortured and murdered people in the name of God. Even so, it took another two hundred years..."

27 posted on 11/20/2009 1:48:19 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: FredZarguna
Please do attempt to point out to me how Scientology is actually worse than any other major religion.

I think this is the core problem, the difference is striking, chilling and overwhelming. The information has been reported on for decades in publications, criminal and civil trials, in forums and well-documented websites.

I'm confident that if you become informed, you'll understand - and agree with - my position.

28 posted on 11/20/2009 1:55:23 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Nachum

Come out of the closet, Tom.


29 posted on 11/20/2009 1:57:42 PM PST by dfwgator
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