Rabbi Yosef Greenberg speaking on Jun of 2008 as Gov. Palin [seen in photo] signs bill on the 60th Aniv. of Israel
Posted on 11/19/2009 8:49:49 PM PST by Nachum
Former US vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin disagrees with the Obama administration's demand that Israel halt settlement construction, although her reason for that opinion is puzzling to some (or at the least demonstrates she's not familiar with the term "natural growth" that much of the debate has revolved around). Palin debates Biden in St....
She told Barbara Walters on ABC's Good Morning America this week that she disagrees with the White House because all the Jews moving to Israel need a place to live.
"I disagree with the Obama administration on that," Palin told Walters. "I believe that the Jewish settlements should be allowed to be expanded upon, because that population of Israel is, is going to grow. More and more Jewish people will be flocking to Israel in the days and weeks and months ahead. And I don't think that the Obama administration has any right to tell Israel that the Jewish settlements cannot expand."
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Site is overloaded. But she’s not popular. Nope. Not at all.
God Bless Sarah Palin..we have a President who despises Israel and sides with the arabs. Sarah stands alongside Israel. She is a breath of fresh air. I have family in Israel who all think she is absolutely wonderful. They hope she visits Israel in the future
It's impressive to watch.
I agree with you, but watch the large majority of Jews in this country continue to vote for and contribute to the rats.
They’re going to “diss” and snark her all the way to the Oval office.
She’s responding to every mistake Obama makes, establishing her positions, there is no doubt she’s running in 2012.
She’s front and center much more than she would be as Governor of Alaska, she’s running as we speak, and each day putting a lot more distance between herself and the “front runners” Myth Romney, HuckaRINO, etc.
It was the same with Reagan.
Ping!
She's doing that in spades, and I for one am grateful we have at least one conservative leader that is standing up for what is right.
That’s because the majority of all Jews in this country always vote Democrat, no matter what. I am the exception, I am Jewish and I always vote Republican, been that way since I first started voting in 2000. Many Jewish Americans are NOT pro Israel, they are what you call “Self hating jews” I have a few of them in my own family, who don’t care about Israel. My Moms entire family is from Israel so they have a special bond over there, but my uncle’s kids, they don’t care, its not their priority, even though they have visited Israel. They knew Obama was for the muslims first, but they simply did not care. The whole thing is perplexing
What does this mean? And what does this have to do with settlements?
It’s an apocalyptic statement that arises from unfortunate “end times” fanaticism.
Baloney. She said what she meant.
"I believe that the Jewish settlements should be allowed to be expanded upon, because that population of Israel is, is going to grow. More and more Jewish people will be flocking to Israel in the days and weeks and months ahead. And I don't think that the Obama administration has any right to tell Israel that the Jewish settlements cannot expand."
She stands by Israel's right to live and prosper, and she stand by their right to expand their setttlements if they so choose.
What about the arabs? Israel is capable of working that out herself, and doesn't need us to tell her what she has to do.
J Street responded... "Palin's pandering to her right-wing base comes at the expense of the security of the State of Israel, the lives of those actually living the conflict, and the fundamental American interest in achieving a two-state solution in the near term,"
Who is J Street? "J Street is a nonprofit advocacy group based in the United States that promotes American leadership to end the Arab-Israeli and Palestinian-Israel conflicts..."
So which is it? Her comments come at the expense of the people living there? Or so says J Street, who doesn't live there and is promoting US leadership and is worried about the impact her remarks will have on US diplomacy...
On the contrary. It is J Street who ignores the people living there and wants to promote the views of outsiders, while Sarah stands for the rights of Israelis to work out their own destiny as they see it.
It was a little puzzling. I think she was pretty much referencing the evanfelical mindset about Israel and Jews gathering there, the coming of the Messiah, etc...
Maybe not 100% clear that the “settlements” are pretty much for Jews who are already in Israel to begin with.
Also, days and weeks and months made it seem as if there’s some imminent mass movement.
I’d think maybe someone who knows a little more about the situation could have a 5 or ten minute conversation with her and bring her up to speed. A nice tutor like Condi was for W. If she wants to go further she will have to be a little more up to speed on things. Still, she never really claimed to know all the intracacies of Israeli politics. Or to be all that much of a policy whiz to start with. More just a gut level feel that Israel is the good guy in the Middle East and we should be generally supportive of them.
Now, I don’t think too many Israelis would agree with that evangelical interpretation. But, they don’t think Jesus is returning anytime soon anyway so it doesn’t really bother the, They’re just happy for support whrever it comes from. They also probably realize that she’d way more supportive of Israel in just about every respect than Obama is, as would any other GOP nominee. So in that regard I’d suspect that they’d help the GOP win in whatever way they can. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the 2 Presidents since Israel was founded who were seen by the Israelis to have turned against Israel(Carter and Bush41)were both defeated for reelection.
She is exactly what we need. Man or woman, she is the best we’ve got, and she dares to say that the emperor is naked.
The left hating and trying to destroy her PROVES that she is what we need in America. We need a leader who is NOT afraid to be hated for saying what is right. Thank you, lefty media. You’ve proven she can take it!
As for Israel, has she met with Bibi yet? Privately, maybe?
People need to focus on something more constructive than “end times” mythology.
Like how to make the world better here and now.
The only "unfortunate fanaticism" around Palin is the fervent leftist shill talking points. And the only "end-times apocalypse" is the imminent landslide conservative victories that are terrifying the slanderous Rats.
I just love your post! Post of the day.
There has been discussion in my shul about the Europeans who are fleeing to Israel now. Antisemitism is rising in that area and has become rather nasty. I’ve read from bloggers in Europe who’re preparing to leave and are trying to talk their families into getting out now.
Russian Jews have hit Israel hard. (This is actually causing a HUGE problem in Israel. A bunch of Russian mobsters have converted and fled to Israel to escape trouble. Israel is cracking down on the Law of Return because of this.)
I do believe that this is what SP is referring to. Jews *are* moving.
No, she’s not talking about end-times prophecy. She’s talking about a present-day political shift in Europe and Russia.
Heck, only a couple of weeks ago I was noting that American Jews may find themselves in a less-than-cozy situation before too long.
The defeat of those two sitting American Presidents was not a result of a shift of a minuscule number of Jewish votes, so how did they do it?
Of interest?
Well, it wasn’t just a miniscule shift.
In 76 Carter beat Ford among Jews 71-27, 44 pts. In 80 he barely beat Reagan among Jews 45-39, only 6 pts. Now Reagan had such a big win it didn’t matter in the end. Still a noticeable difference.
In 1988 Bush got 35% of the Jewish vote vs Dukakis. By 1992, he fell to 11% vs Clinton. After no Republican had gotten less than 27 since 1968. After 4 of the last 5 had gotten at least 30.
Also, Jews are way more liberal and pro dem to begin with. So even a small shift in the Jewish vote means a huge shift in the Christian vote. IOW, if the GOP went went from say the 22 they got last yr among Jews to 27, just a 5 pt gain, it’d likely mean they had a much larger gain among protestants and catholics, which would be enough of a difference to decide an election.
Bush got 24% and won in 2004, but that extra 2 pts was indicative of the extra pts he got among non-Jews.
So it’s not necessarily a shift in the Jewish vote. Many Jews don’t even really care about Israel anyway. Especially most of the ones who vote dem.
But Jews are sort of the canary in the coal mine. If they turn from the dems even in small numbers, it means others are turning from them in much larger numbers.
I think it’s more an overall thing. People in Israel still know some very powerful people in the US. In the defense, business, media industries. They know how to send signals. That can make a difference. I’m not saying it’s some huge Jewish conspiracy, more subtle nudging. Enough people start getting told “maybe this guy is bad news. you know, we’re ok with the other guy, we think he may be good for us.”
Israel has a lot of ties to US Jewish orgs and groups/ When Jews were unsure of Obama last yr and in 2007, the good press he got and assurances from such groups and his AIPAC speeches helped him a great deal. A lot of included wink-winks and other statements from people close to Israel who passed along the word that he was ok and on their side. There was a huge PR effort among Jewish groups to make him acceptable, to convince Jews, especially older(50+) Jews that Obama could be trusted on Israel and other issues. Probably pushed him from the high 60s/low 70s to the high 70s. Maybe even more.
Now, everyone knows they’ve been sold a bill of goods. If that machinery were to turn against him, and especially if it were to actively support his opponent or at least work to make him(or her)be seen as acceptable(especially to Jewish voters who tend to be cool to Republicans because they’re seen as too Christian and religious), that could be a big deal. Especially in FL, older voters in OH. McCain got 48% in FL last year. Even a small shift among Jews there could get him to 50.
Or, maybe it’s just a coincidence that the 2 Presidents seen as most anti-Israel both went down after one term. I don’t think so, though.
Interesting post, Marie. Sarah has been studying hard since her resignation. She is probably ahead of us all in knowing what is currently happening around the world. John Bolton is advising her.
Rabbi Yosef Greenberg speaking on Jun of 2008 as Gov. Palin [seen in photo] signs bill on the 60th Aniv. of Israel
Gov. Palin signed a resolution in June of 2008 recognizing Israel’s 60th anniversary and the unique relationship between Alaska and the Jewish State, especially the fact that Alaska Airlines played a critical role in the rescue of 40,000 Yemenite Jews in 1948 and 1949.
Gov. Palin has established a great relationship with the Jewish community over the years and has attended several of our Jewish cultural gala events.
Her general views on Israel tend to support the probability that she meant the statement in relation to a ‘gathering’ said by evangelicals to herald ‘end times’.
A weird thing for Christians to embrace, but a prevalent heresy in Christian churches all the same.
Shouldn’t Americans embrace freedom of religion, instead of endorsing a country which does not?
Sorry hoss, but I’m pretty sure most Americans support freedom of religion AND Israel.
Why support a country defined by a religion which rejects Christ?
So you say I don’t have freedom of religion to be able to post what was stated.
If you don’t like Jews, you can always move on over to Stormfront.
Offer a quote from me that impugns freedom of religion.
You cannot.
Because there aren’t any.
Offer a quote from me that in any way shape or form advocates mistreatment of any particular religious group.
You cannot.
Because there aren’t any.
Israel is a Western nation. Besides, name one Christian country these days.
Based on a very poor understanding of the Bible, I might add.
I really wanted to like SP, but she is just not presidential material. She certainly cannot compare to Reagan.
You have a history of anti Jewish posts and
will look for anything to bash Sarah Palin.
With regards to the first part of that lie, quote one.
With regards to the second part of that lie, quote one.
I would like to see her write books, give talks, etc.
She can do some good in some areas, even though I disagree with her in other areas.
Someone else should be the nominee in 2012.
There are far more muslims who want to cut off the heads of non-muslims than there are Jews who want to cut of the heads of non-Jews or Christians who want to cut of the heads of non-Christians.
I have never heard of any violence by Jews directed towards Christians; I’m sure there must have been some sometime - maybe - but not a day goes by that we don’t hear of muslim extremists killing people. So us Christians tend to side with Israel, period, and view muslims as a constant threat.
I don’t see anything in the Bible that directs me to forcefully convert anyone to Christianity, but I certainly see a right of self-defense.
Define "Western".
Besides, name one Christian country these days.
In the sense of a country's dominant culture being in accordance with Christian values? America was, and hopefully will be again.
Ah, good to see the newbie reveal his / her true self....
Freedom of religion is doing just fine in Israel....
Islam being wrong doesn’t make Israel right.
Moshiach, Moshiach, Moshiach...
ay, ay, ay, ay, ay,
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Moshiach, Moshiach, Moshiach...
ay, ay, ay, ay, ay,
,( :>)
oops!
(I guess I really want moshiach now!)
Too many Christians do exactly that while claiming a religious basis for doing so.
That is doubly weird.
“But Jews are sort of the canary in the coal mine. If they turn from the dems even in small numbers, it means others are turning from them in much larger numbers.”
It’s not weird at all for Christians to support a country defined by a religion that Jesus Christ was - by design - born in to.
You are doubly weird.
Alright. If she continues to voice that opinion on Israel loud, clear, with honesty and no capitulation or vagueness until the election and also expresses and clear desire to replace the chiefs of staff with real men (Army, pro-Isreal and definitely pro-defense), then I might vote for her. ...but only if she doesn’t cave in to the usual import business and government employee interests wanting low freight fuel prices, anti-family policies and dirty foreign trade deals against our defense interests.
I would rather see a certainly pro-Israel voting record, though.
“Why support a country defined by a religion which rejects Christ?”
Why stop with ending your support for Israel? Why not end all your support for Jews everywhere, BY PUBLICLY proclaiming you will stop using anything AND EVERYTHING INVENTED IN ISRAEL OR BY JEWS ANYWHERE.
You can start here:
The Stent was invented in Israel.
It is estimated that some 15% of all communications equipment sold around the world comes from Israel.
The Pentium MMX Chip technology was designed in Israel at Intel.
Both the Pentium-4 microprocessor and the Centrino processor were entirely designed, developed and produced in Israel.
Israeli scientists developed the first fully computerized, no-radiation, diagnostic instrumentation for breast cancer
Israel’s Given-Imaging developed the first ingestible video camera, so small it fits inside a pill. Used to view the small intestine from the inside, cancer and digestive disorders.
The Firewall was invented in Israel
Drip Irrigation was invented in Israel
ICQ was invented in Israel (TEXT MESSAGING)
Both of the leading drugs used to treat MS patients, beta-interferon and copaxone, were invented in Israel.
Voice over IP was invented in Israel.
More here:
Are you done denying your family all those medical and technology breakthroughs because we don’t agree with you on whether the Messiah has come yet? (Did you even KNOW that we are waiting for the Messiah, or you know but you would rather take the side of jihadi scum as one of those typical, ignorant JOO-HATERS?
NO? NOT DONE?
Here, see if you can find something else you want to never want your family to use because you do not hate Judaism and “don’t want to support Israel”.
“Some of the more notable Jewish contributions to the medical and biological sciences in the modern era are listed below. (The names of non-Jewish scientists mentioned in the accompanying discussion have been denoted with the superscript “+” in order to avoid confusion.)
The invention of local anesthesia by Carl Koller and the discovery of Novocaine by Alfred Einhorn.
The discovery that pancreatic dysfunction is the cause of diabetes by Oskar Minkowski (together with Joseph von Mering+) and the subsequent discovery that this dysfunction involves a deficiency in the hormonal secretions of the islets of Langerhans by Moses Barron. The work of the Canadian team that isolated insulin (Banting+, Best+, Collip+, and Macleod+) was based on these two prior discoveries.
The discovery of the ABO and other human blood groups and of the Rh factor by Karl Landsteiner. (The M, N, and P blood groups were co-discovered with Philip Levine and the Rh factor was co-discovered with Alexander Wiener). Landsteiner received the 1930 Nobel Prize for this work; he is also considered to be one of the giants of immunology, having made major contributions to the understanding of the chemical basis of antigen-antibody interaction.
The introduction of the side-chain theory of antibody formation by Paul Ehrlich, which has evolved into clonal selection theory, the central paradigm of modern immunology. Ehrlich shared the 1908 Nobel Prize with Élie Metchnikoff* for their independent contributions to immunology. Ehrlich is also considered to be the founder of modern chemotherapeutic medicine. His development of Salvarsan (1909) and Neosalvarsan (1911) constituted the first effective treatment for syphilis and, in the words of Sir Alexander Fleming+, “the beginning - and a magnificent beginning - of bacterial chemotherapy”8 (i.e., antibiotics).
The isolation and development of penicillin by Sir Ernst Chain. Chain shared the 1945 Nobel Prize for this work with Sir Alexander Fleming+ and Sir Howard Florey+. It was Chain who recognized the potential of Fleming’s+ nearly forgotten discovery of the antibacterial properties of Penicillium molds (one of many agents then known to have such properties). Chain, a biochemist, was able to isolate the active antibacterial substance, viz., penicillin, and to work out its molecular structure. Using samples that Chain produced, Chain and Florey+ demonstrated penicillin’s stability, nontoxicity, and effectiveness against staphylococcal, streptococcal, and clostridial infections in laboratory animals and humans.
more at http://www.jinfo.org/Nobels_Medicine.html
PLEASE, PLEASE, be sure and NEVER take penicillin again...
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