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Palin’s Presidential Future May Require ‘Pygmalion Project’ (Romneybots bash Palin again)
Bloomberg | 2009-11-20

Posted on 11/20/2009 12:31:16 AM PST by rabscuttle385

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See quote towards the end of the story from Ron Kaufman, former adviser to Mitt Romney's 2008 campaign.

That would be...Ron Kaufman of the RNC.

As in...Ron Kaufman, who worked for Bush 43 and has been an influential Romney adviser since at least 2006.

1 posted on 11/20/2009 12:31:19 AM PST by rabscuttle385
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To: SolidWood; Sarah Barracuda

fyi


2 posted on 11/20/2009 12:31:59 AM PST by rabscuttle385 (Purge the RINOs! * http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: rabscuttle385
I used to like Romney. He is quickly proving all of the charges against him. Ultimately, Romney is a great proponent of fratricide as a campaign tactic and he is so easy to see behind it, that he looks like he is a student of the Obama tactical school of politics.

I am sick of the politics of destroying our own. It just sucks.

3 posted on 11/20/2009 12:39:10 AM PST by dalight
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To: Diogenesis; ejonesie22

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4 posted on 11/20/2009 12:47:32 AM PST by rabscuttle385 (Purge the RINOs! * http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: rabscuttle385
“She would have to be somebody’s Pygmalion project,” he said.

The author of this condescending throwaway line might do well to consider the character of Eliza Doolittle.


5 posted on 11/20/2009 1:00:48 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

Good job Ron. Just keep pi$$ing off middle/mainstream/flyover America. That will work real well for your boy Romney.


6 posted on 11/20/2009 1:11:05 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Sarah Palin - For such a time as this)
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To: nathanbedford

Pat Buchanan proving once again he is a GASBAG!


7 posted on 11/20/2009 1:11:19 AM PST by A. Morgan (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. Lawrence)
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To: dalight
I fear the "R" stablishment will foist B Jindal upon us next "S"election.

He started out as a great Gov, for about a month. Now he is a do nothing 24/7 campaigner, not totally unlike the current pres__ent without ID TROTUS.

8 posted on 11/20/2009 1:19:57 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:31 Behold, I am against you," O " you most proud, said the said the Lord GOD of hosts)
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To: A. Morgan

“Pat Buchanan proving once again he is a GASBAG!”

The article didn’t quote Pat Buchanan, it quoted Bruce Buchanan. The article said he is a presidential historian at the University of Texas. I’ve never heard of him before.


9 posted on 11/20/2009 1:20:15 AM PST by detective
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To: rabscuttle385

Romney is never going to win over conservatives if his surrogates attack Palin....Never.


10 posted on 11/20/2009 1:28:52 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Always Right

Obviously he doesn’t think he needs them (us).


11 posted on 11/20/2009 1:30:29 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Sarah Palin - For such a time as this)
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To: dalight
Romney is liberal, RINO slime but NRO & beck sure loves him. Disappointed in both.

A bit OT, is there a thread on Sarah's interview with oreilly? I missed it but assume she did fantastic.

12 posted on 11/20/2009 1:50:15 AM PST by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Always Right

Romney is never going to win over conservatives if his surrogates attack Palin....Never.


We must not have Romney surrogates attack Palin, but it is OK to have a web site continually posting Palin surrogates attacking Romney. That’s different.

All looks yellow to the jaundiced eye!


13 posted on 11/20/2009 2:44:16 AM PST by broncobilly
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To: rabscuttle385
Where oh where is Romney of late? Has anyone but me noticed his conspicuous absence from the National Spotlight and not even issuing comments on major legislation such as O'Bozzo's Death Care, the Fort Hood attack, the decision to try KSM in a civilian court? Wassup with that?

Love him or not, (and like all RINO's I have mixed feelings about Rudi and it depends on the day or issue which emotion he exerts) I'm glad he is considering running for the Senate in NY. This will keep Romney and--the other RINO contender--Huck on their toes

14 posted on 11/20/2009 2:55:26 AM PST by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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To: rabscuttle385
See quote towards the end of the story from Ron Kaufman, former adviser to Mitt Romney's 2008 campaign....Romneybots bash Palin again

Horse Manure. Kaufman said "Once you’re painted into the picture fairly or, mostly unfairly, changing that perception is the hardest thing to do." Ed Goas said “There’s a certain amount of elitism in this town...Most of middle America did not go to an Ivy League school and they work hard and play by the rules: Those are the people that she connected with.” Hardly bashing.

Buchanan...I'm assume asshat Pat...Not a Republican said "She would have to be somebody’s Pygmalion project."

Did you read the article?

15 posted on 11/20/2009 3:02:32 AM PST by Once-Ler (ProLife ProGun ProGod ProSoldier ProBusiness Republican To The Core)
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To: broncobilly
If the Mittster would just stand up and be counted ON ANYTHING, maybe he would give people a reason to stand down. Until then, sorry.
16 posted on 11/20/2009 3:03:53 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Sarah Palin - For such a time as this)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Why would he start now .....

He has tooo many that will carry his water for him, led by Hannity.


17 posted on 11/20/2009 3:05:14 AM PST by HiramQuick (work harder ... welfare recipients depend on you!)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

I see him having made some mistakes, but I also see him standing up for a lot of things.

More so or less so, that about sums up everyone in politics.


18 posted on 11/20/2009 3:14:19 AM PST by broncobilly
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To: detective

Such data is not relevant to Pat Buchanan derangement syndrome.


19 posted on 11/20/2009 3:43:35 AM PST by nkycincinnatikid
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To: rabscuttle385

Whatever they say about Palin, Romney NEVER RECOVERS from Romney-care.


20 posted on 11/20/2009 3:47:27 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: rawcatslyentist

Obama got a pass on the constitutional requirement of being a NBC but Jindall will not. You can bet on that.


21 posted on 11/20/2009 3:50:31 AM PST by dalight
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To: nathanbedford
It's important to say that Our Lady of Wasilla must exhibit the ability to neutralize, and then to reverse, her high negatives.

Yes, it's unfair that she has the high negatives to begin with, and it's worse that they result from an unprecedented and coordinated campaign of vilification.

But the worst thing of all is that the "destroy Sarah" campaign IS WORKING, and that fact means that such tactics will be deployed against any conservative with a chance of winning.

THEREFORE, the next conservative President will be one who can turn aside or reverse the kind of attacks that have been so effective against Palin - and we don't know, yet, that she is capable of such a reversal.

If she is, she's the next President, but if she isn't, she's going nowhere.

22 posted on 11/20/2009 3:52:57 AM PST by Jim Noble (We Are Traveling in the Footsteps of Those Who've Come Before)
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To: rabscuttle385

That would be Ron “Chocolate Pants” Kaufman:

http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1P2-8221688.html

Those in Boston haven’t forgot:

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/magazine/articles/2009/11/01/unhealthy_position/


23 posted on 11/20/2009 3:53:45 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: broncobilly

The Mittster has taken craven, calculated, political flip-flopping to an Olympian level.


24 posted on 11/20/2009 3:55:27 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Diogenesis

More Romneyite snarkiness...


25 posted on 11/20/2009 4:08:27 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: dalight
Yeah, there are a lot of people, who used to like Romney. He has a great story for a Republican candidate, saved the Salt Lake City Olympics, successful business turnaround artist in saving a creating loads of real jobs in the real economy, experience as Governor and a great family.

Then he campaigned. Then millions of Republicans were desperate for a new candidate. Can you say Fred Thompson? Bottom line, no Romney. Not then, not now, not tomorrow. Romney would be great to head up a new Grace Commission.

26 posted on 11/20/2009 4:11:19 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (Are they insane, stupid or just evil?)
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To: rabscuttle385

Beware the elbows of Romney!


27 posted on 11/20/2009 4:14:03 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (LIBERTY)
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To: A. Morgan

Pat Buchanan probably approves of Palin.

Did you read the article?


28 posted on 11/20/2009 4:20:16 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (2012: Repeal it all... All of it!)
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To: rabscuttle385

Romney is psychotic Mexican pretending he is a
Massachusetts Brahmin.

No wonder he must backstab women and children.
Romney’s male family DNA made it off of the Titanic first.


29 posted on 11/20/2009 4:22:04 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: broncobilly

I dont consider myelf a Palin Surrogate, but you can bet your willie that I will never vote for Romney.


30 posted on 11/20/2009 4:29:55 AM PST by Venturer
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To: broncobilly; Al B.; SolidWood; Leisler; greyfoxx39; Tennessee Nana; EternalVigilance; ...
You're right, broncobilly.

Mitt Romney stands up for corruption in government.
Mitt Romney stands up for Democrats
Mitt Romney stands up for corrupt, liberal pro-criminal judges, overlooking GOP candidates
Mitt Romney stands up for usurping Mass Constitution
Mitt Romney stands up for tears and fabricated 'religious persecution' against criticism
Mitt Romney stands up for "Big Dig" coverups for campaign donations.
Mitt Romney stands up for no-vote socialist plans
Mitt Romney stands up for targetting of other GOP candidates
Mitt Romney stands up for federal bailouts of RomneyCARE
Mitt Romney stands up for fake "law enforcement officers" (caught in at least two states)
Mitt Romney stands up for attacks on Gov. Palin and her children
Mitt Romney stands up for using "Hate" as RomneyBOT Codeword to stop criticism of Romney
Mitt Romney stands up for using "Bigot" as RomneyBOT Codeword to stop criticism of Romney


31 posted on 11/20/2009 4:33:48 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: broncobilly
We must not have Romney surrogates attack Palin, but it is OK to have a web site continually posting Palin surrogates attacking Romney. That’s different.

Oh Billy Billy Billy...

It IS different...

This is a Conservative site.

Palin has already won over conservatives.

Mitt...

Well...

Be a good start if he would be conservative and stay there for at least 5 minutes...

But given that won't happen...

Well even you can see where the problem lies...

I think...

32 posted on 11/20/2009 4:36:23 AM PST by ejonesie22
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To: broncobilly

Is this your new tack, Bronkie ?

FAIL !


33 posted on 11/20/2009 4:36:53 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: ejonesie22
"Oh Billy Billy Billy..."

Have you seen "Midnight Express" ? ;-D

34 posted on 11/20/2009 4:41:04 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: broncobilly

All looks yellow to the jaundiced eye!
________________________________________________

I guess that must be a RINO Romney affliction...

Nothing looked yellow to me when I had Jaundice when I was 9...

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Nana was already a Conservative then...

Yep must be a RINO problem...


35 posted on 11/20/2009 4:52:10 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: rabscuttle385

Romneybots! If any one thinks that a MORMON can be elected President, forget it! You’re out of your mind! A mulatto marxist communist Chicago street thug? Yes! MORMON, no! Not a stinkin’ chance in hell!


36 posted on 11/20/2009 5:02:27 AM PST by Doc Savage (SOBAMP!)
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To: rabscuttle385

I think pretty much every candidate on the center-right, GOP, third-party or independent, needed a Pygmalion, either on style, substance or both. Every one. Including McCain. Even more so, considering that most of them are at least considering going again in 2012. And I think the governor might actually be one of the less daunting projects.


37 posted on 11/20/2009 5:55:42 AM PST by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Good. Pour gasoline on the fire why don’t you. Our “overlords” need taking down more than a few notches...and returned to the hustings they hail from...


38 posted on 11/20/2009 5:57:36 AM PST by mo
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To: rabscuttle385
He didn't bash Palin. In fact, he said nothing bad about Palin at all.

Here is his entire section of the article:

“Once you’re painted into the picture fairly or, mostly unfairly, changing that perception is the hardest thing to do,” Kaufman said.

As you can see, he said the picture painted of her was MOSTLY UNFAIR. He is pointing out a sad truth, which is that first impressions are hard to overcome. To ignore that truth because of your mitt-hatred is a serious mistake.

The "first impression" rule is why so many political campaigns start with negative ads about unknown opponents. Paint the picture before the opponent gets the chance, because first impressions are hard to overcome.

The remainder of the quote, including the "pygmalian project", was not Kaufman, it was Buchanon:

Nixon is an exception. In 1968, he positioned himself to lead the party to victory as rising opposition to the Vietnam War led President Lyndon Johnson to give up a bid for re- election.

Buchanan said Palin is unlikely to ride to the top of the ticket on the current administration’s woes and her grassroots support alone.

“She would have to be somebody’s Pygmalion project,” he said.

Simple truth: Palin will NOT win the nomination, OR the Presidency, if she does not overcome the mostly unfair first impressions of her. Her book is part of that work. Her most rabid supporters are the biggest threat to that work, because they tend to re-inforce the false impressions of Palin by posting cheesecake pictures of her in threads, and treating her like a china doll who has to be defended by trashing anybody who says the slightest negative thing about her.

Palin is much better than that, and her fanatic supporters need to let Palin be Palin.

39 posted on 11/20/2009 6:47:18 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

DO you disagree with ROn’s quote that “Once you’re painted into the picture fairly or, mostly unfairly, changing that perception is the hardest thing to do,”?

What part do you disagree with? That her first impression was unfair, or that it is hard to change first impressions?

And which part do you think was an “attack” on Palin? Saying she was unfairly characterized, or that it will be hard work to change that impression?

Or did you not actually read the article, and just assumed that the original poster knew what he was talking about?


40 posted on 11/20/2009 6:52:05 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Most people appear not to have read the article, and just assumed that the title quote was Ron’s.

At least the freeper you reference did read the article, they saw the quote from “buchanon”, they just didn’t go back through the article to learn it was “bruce buchanon” rather than “pat buchanon”.

Remember when the MSM falsely claimed that Palin supported Pat Buchanon for President in 1996?

Pat claimed she raised money for him, Palin denied it.

Pat says nice things about Palin from time to time, but given that Pat is kind of toxic, it could be he just says those things to hurt her — it is always used AGAINST her when Buchanon supports her or says nice things about her.


41 posted on 11/20/2009 7:33:42 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: rabscuttle385
OFF WITH HIS HEAD!
42 posted on 11/20/2009 8:38:53 AM PST by Bob J ("For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, one strikes at its root.")
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To: rabscuttle385
(Romneybots bash Palin again)

Where in the article do you find this?

43 posted on 11/20/2009 2:06:10 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: Jim Noble
I agree entirely with your take on Sarah Palin.

There is no one on the political horizon who has the philosophical pedigree to match our conservative principles. More importantly, she is the walking embodiment of conservative virtue. Finally, as I noted at the time of her selection, the biography reveals that she was chosen not in spite of an absence of experience, she had adequate experience, but for what her biography reveals about her character.

On the other hand as you quite properly point out, it would be a grave error to nominate Sarah Palin if she is unready and unwilling to get ready to play the game in the big leagues. It is unfair to her and it is unfair to the conservative cause.

Immediately after the election I posted this reply about what I thought she had to do to get ready which only a code several posts that I had made even prior to the election concerning this subject which I call "forensic surgery":

I take your point about Reagan's improved performance in the second debate in which he was not expected to be force-fed a whole bunch of data. I think Palin's problem is 70 % presentation and 30 % substance.

First, I think she was unnerved by Gibson and by Couric. I know that sounds remarkable for someone who can come out of the backwater of Alaska and mount the national stage in front of the tens of millions of people and knock 'em dead at the convention. Nevertheless, I think she was terribly nervous in those two interviews and it undid her.

And talking about style, I think we should differentiate among the two kinds of exposure that a candidate endures. The first is the prepared speech. She is proven beyond doubt that she can deliver a boffo speech. However, in these efforts it is sometimes necessary, depending on the setting and the audience, to be formal and pedantic. She has not demonstrated an ability in this area yet and she must do so to acquire the precious "gravitas." At outdoor rallies she can literally let her hair down and let ' er rip and she will be wonderfully well received.

A second venue is the television interview Katie Couric or Meet the Press style. I believe that she can handle that experience better today but if you look at the last YouTube ambush by NBC news affiliate in front of the Turkey slaughter, you'll see Palin confident and unafraid because she is in her element. But you will also notice that she talked too fast and was a bit too earnest and smiled a bit too much. Her problem is not likability but weight. Those of us who love her will do so if she smiles a little less and those who hate her do so compulsively because of who she is, not what she says or how she says it. Palin must identify her target which is the mushy middle who will like her but must not be able to conclude that she is a lightweight. Therefore, her forensic coach should work on voice tone, pacing, pauses, and posture all with a view to adding portent. Additionally, she should have an inventory of handy phrases for each subject such as offshore drilling, Iraq or what have you. Procedurally, she should have an inventory of phrases ready to hand if she is put back on her heels which will kick up enough dust to get her out of a jam. These should be practiced and rehearsed so that she looks authoritative while she is shucking and jiving-all politicians shuck and jive the question is do you look good doing it. In Sarah's case, she always looks good, the question is does she looks smart? I think a forensic coach will play back tapes with a view to alerting her to her nervous gestures and betrayals of insecurity. She has courage but I think she is also a woman of decency and politeness so she does not instinctively leapt to the counterattack when somebody like Charlie Gibson misquotes her to spring a trap that she is a religious nut. She does not look the camera in the eye as though she was staring a Katie Couric and ask her why she did not ask such a question of Barak Obama. She must learn that the audience hates Katie Couric and knows what she is up to and will tolerate a lot of spontaneous pushback provided it does not appear to be whining. Finally, she must overcome the present negative image created by Tina Fey and Katie Couric. That is to be done by self- deprecating humor. Clinton got away with that after his disastrous convention speech by appearing on Leno and making fun of himself. It got Huckabee to the brink of the nomination. If I were Palin I would somehow raise the money to hire a stable of writers, two should do it, but one of whom at least should have some comedic skills.

Ronald Reagan used to wit and humor to skewer his adversaries who, like Mondale, were young and inexperienced.


44 posted on 11/20/2009 9:54:05 PM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford
In short, she needs a little, just a little, Ann Coulter.

Good analysis BTW.

45 posted on 11/21/2009 12:44:45 AM PST by riri (http://rationaljingo.blogspot.com/)
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To: nathanbedford
Bonus humor feature (based upon the movie, since Audrey Hepburn is petite, like Palin, and almost as much a goddess...):

Picture Sarah Palin plaintively crying out repeatedly in a cockney voice, "I'm a good gel, I am!"

GO SARAH!

Cheers!

46 posted on 11/21/2009 11:04:20 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: broncobilly; Jim Robinson; Admin Moderator
We must not have Romney surrogates attack Palin, but it is OK to have a web site continually posting Palin surrogates attacking Romney. That’s different. All looks yellow to the jaundiced eye!

Were you here for the bug-zapper thread, by any chance?

Cheers!

47 posted on 11/21/2009 11:05:47 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Jim Noble
But the worst thing of all is that the "destroy Sarah" campaign IS WORKING, and that fact means that such tactics will be deployed against any conservative with a chance of winning.

You're right. Now her book sales will NEVER match Dan Quayle's numbers! /sarc>

Cheers!

48 posted on 11/21/2009 11:07:04 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
Beware the Ides of Mitt! /Shakespeare>

Cheers!

49 posted on 11/21/2009 11:08:07 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: nathanbedford
Send this to Conservatives4Palin or somesuch who will be able to get it to her team.

Better yet, don't.

They'll try to use your name and association to claim she is a racist.

Cheers!

50 posted on 11/21/2009 11:10:40 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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