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Breaking News Story: CRU has apparently been hacked – hundreds of files released
Watts Up With That? ^ | 19/11/2009 | Anthony Watts

Posted on 11/20/2009 1:39:35 AM PST by jsh3180

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To: iopscusa

Bet me.

The MSM won’t touch this with a ten foot pole.

Fox and the internet will cover it.


41 posted on 11/20/2009 5:19:25 AM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: Dallas59
What do the files basically say? Climate Change is a ruse to get cash?

(A) In emails, they admit to fudging the data.

(B) They've been getting government money for all this fraudulent research.

A+B= some people need to be put in JAIL. This is big. This is very big.

42 posted on 11/20/2009 5:19:26 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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43 posted on 11/20/2009 5:20:18 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Petronski

self-bump


44 posted on 11/20/2009 5:21:41 AM PST by steveo (2010 never again)
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To: Dallas59
What do the files basically say?

One of the messages talks about withholding data demanded under Freedom of Information, which is akin to destroying documents under subpoena.

In other words, direct evidence of a crime.

45 posted on 11/20/2009 5:21:54 AM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: jsh3180

Keep this sucker bumped to the top!!!


47 posted on 11/20/2009 5:26:42 AM PST by jsh3180
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To: jsh3180
Australia's Investigate Magazine has it in their print edition, PDF at the link.

From the story, one email:

From: Phil Jones
To: ray bradley ,mann@[snipped], mhughes@
[snipped]
Subject: Diagram for WMO Statement
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:31:15 +0000
Cc: k.briffa@[snipped],t.osborn@[snipped]
Dear Ray, Mike and Malcolm,
Once Tim’s got a diagram here we’ll send that
either later today or first thing tomorrow. I’ve
just completed Mike’s Nature trick of adding
in the real temps to each series for the last 20
years (ie from 1981 onwards) amd [sic] from1961
for Keith’s to hide the decline. Mike’s series got
the annual land and marine values while the
other two got April-Sept for NH land N of
20N. The latter two are real for 1999, while the
estimate for 1999 for NH combined is +0.44C
wrt 61-90. The Global estimate for 1999 with
data through Oct is +0.35C cf. 0.57 for 1998.
Thanks for the comments, Ray.
Cheers, Phil
Prof. Phil Jones
Climatic Research Unit
TGIF asked Jones about the controversial email discussing hiding “the decline”, and Jones explained he was not trying to mislead.

“No, that’s completely wrong. In the sense that they’re talking about two different things here. They’re talking about the instrumental data which is unaltered – but they’re talking about proxy data going further back in time, a thousand years, and it’s just about how you add on the last few years, because when you get proxy data you sample things like tree rings and ice cores, and they don’t always have the last few years. So one way is to add on the instrumental data for the last few years.” Jones told TGIF he had no idea what me meant by using the words “hide the decline”.

“That was an email from ten years ago. Can you remember the exact context of what you wrote ten years ago?”

The other emails are described by skeptic commentators as “explosive”, one talks of stacking the peer-review process to prevent qualified skeptical scientists from getting their research papers considered.


48 posted on 11/20/2009 5:27:16 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: jsh3180
 


 This is the biggest "See, I Told You So" in El Rushbo history.

49 posted on 11/20/2009 5:27:39 AM PST by greedo
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To: jsh3180

Related???

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HOW COLD DOES IT FEEL? - NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE USES NEW FORMULA FOR WIND CHILL FACTOR

Evansville Courier, The (IN) - Friday, November 2, 2001
Author: RANDOLPH E. SCHMID, Associated Press writer

It may not seem quite so cold this winter.

The National Weather Service introduced a new wind chill index Thursday that eases some of the extreme coldness estimates of the old formula.

The wind chill index is a formula that estimates how cold it feels based on the combination of temperature and wind . It is widely reported in winter to help people decide how warmly to dress.

Under the new formula, a 10 mph wind makes a reading of 30 degrees Fahrenheit feel like 21 degrees and a reading of 15 degrees feel like 3 degrees. The old formula calculated that with a 10 mph wind 30 degrees felt like 16 and 15 degrees felt like minus 3.

A 20 mph wind under the new formula makes a 30 degree reading feel like 17 and 15 degrees fell like minus 2. The old formula showed a 20 mph wind making 30 degrees feel like 4 and 15 feel like minus 17.

(snip)


50 posted on 11/20/2009 5:29:10 AM PST by maggief
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To: Leisler

It is good, very good.


51 posted on 11/20/2009 5:38:24 AM PST by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: jsh3180

My favorite:

From: Phil Jones
To: “Michael E. Mann”
Subject: IPCC & FOI
Date: Thu May 29 11:04:11 2008
Mike,
Can you delete any emails you may have had with Keith re AR4?
Keith will do likewise. He’s not in at the moment – minor family crisis.
Can you also email Gene and get him to do the same? I don’t have his new email address.
We will be getting Caspar to do likewise.
I see that CA claim they discovered the 1945 problem in the Nature paper!!
Cheers
Phil
Prof. Phil Jones
Climatic Research Unit

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/hadley_hacked#63657

NOTE: FOI ???...Mann is a government employee...if mann delete those emails it would be a criminal act???

Mikie Mann is a big fish!
http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~mann/Mann/


52 posted on 11/20/2009 5:58:02 AM PST by Bulwinkle (Alec, a.k.a. Daffy Duck)
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To: iopscusa

Is there any mention of obuma’s Chicago scam - Chicago Climate Exchange - in these papers?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/03/25/obama-years-ago-helped-fund-carbon-program-pushing-congress/

If there is, we have a clear impeachable offense.


53 posted on 11/20/2009 5:58:57 AM PST by sergeantdave (obuma is the anti-Lincoln, trying to re-establish slavery)
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To: jsh3180

Bookmarked!


54 posted on 11/20/2009 5:59:39 AM PST by MaryFromMichigan
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To: jsh3180

DEEEEEEEE-LISH! Pass the popcorn. ;-)


55 posted on 11/20/2009 6:00:33 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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To: jsh3180

The Yellow Bird is on the Credenza, I repeat, The Yellow Bird is on the Credenza ...


56 posted on 11/20/2009 6:02:08 AM PST by Scythian
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To: Scythian

BTT


57 posted on 11/20/2009 6:03:15 AM PST by mancini
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To: PapaBear3625

We can’t stop at pointing out the fraud,

but also have to make sure we hammer the public with the MOTIVE.


58 posted on 11/20/2009 6:05:05 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Scythian

“Jean has a long mustache.”


59 posted on 11/20/2009 6:06:01 AM PST by TexasNative2000 (There's a reason the oath talks about defending the country from enemies both "foreign AND domestic")
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To: jsh3180
Australian Herald-Sun picks up the story.
60 posted on 11/20/2009 6:22:45 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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