Skip to comments.Climategate: the final nail in the coffin of 'Anthropogenic Global Warming'? (LIFTOFF!!)
Posted on 11/20/2009 8:42:26 AM PST by milwguy
If you own any shares in alternative energy companies I should start dumping them NOW. The conspiracy behind the Anthropogenic Global Warming myth (aka AGW; aka ManBearPig) has been suddenly, brutally and quite deliciously exposed after a hacker broke into the computers at the University of East Anglias Climate Research Unit (aka Hadley CRU) and released 61 megabites of confidential files onto the internet. (Hat tip: Watts Up With That)
When you read some of those files including 1079 emails and 72 documents you realise just why the boffins at Hadley CRU might have preferred to keep them confidential. As Andrew Bolt puts it, this scandal could well be the greatest in modern science. These alleged emails supposedly exchanged by some of the most prominent scientists pushing AGW theory suggest:
Conspiracy, collusion in exaggerating warming data, possibly illegal destruction of embarrassing information, organised resistance to disclosure, manipulation of data, private admissions of flaws in their public claims and much more.
One of the alleged emails has a gentle gloat over the death in 2004 of John L Daly (one of the first climate change sceptics, founder of the Still Waiting For Greenhouse site), commenting:
In an odd way this is cheering news.
But perhaps the most damaging revelations the scientific equivalent of the Telegraphs MPs expenses scandal are those concerning the way Warmist scientists may variously have manipulated or suppressed evidence in order to support their cause.
(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.telegraph.co.uk ...
Already downloaded on a flash drive last night. Good reading!
This really is serious stuff. Of course, Michael Crichton, in a novel “State of Fear,” exposed how the pro-warming scientific community lied for years. To this date, it’s the only novel I’ve ever seen with a bibliography and source notes!!
This ought to ratchet-up the discussion, even in the MSM.
Posted that article on my facebook page. HOW VERY INTERESTING!
(So far, Al Gore has killed 2,482 polar bears.)
First time I've heard the phrase. I like it.
I found this rather interesting. It’s under ‘Letter To Mike 13.10.06’ from the download:
Mike, 13 October 2006
To be honest your message presents us with something of a problem. We initially envisaged that you would do precisely what you have done and produce these results that appear to confirm what we suspected: that the results of von Storch et al. do not carry over to the RegEM method, but instead overstate the likely underestimation of long-term amplitude (in addition there is their detrending error to consider). We are happy with this and very interested to see the specific results regarding the RegEM approach and would love to see more detail (sensitivity to noise choices, PC patterns involved, etc.). Certainly we would be happy to be co-authors on a paper that describes the results as you summarise them here. Our problem arises, however, from your suggestion of using these results as part of a response to comments by the German group. We would much rather not use the results in this way. This is because we believe this would destroy our (personally conceived perhaps) impartiality as viewed from outside. We believe the original von Storch et al/Burger set of papers do show potential for loss of long-timescale reconstruction skill, even though the effective magnitude was incorrectly presented in their original paper. Also, providing the data for (and being co-authors on) a paper that is part of an ongoing debate might reasonably be considered a breach of faith by our SOAP partners, especially as there might be parts of your response that we might not sanction wholly and which would then delay you in providing your response to Journal of Climate. Providing data, sharing analysis and helping to author a specific paper on testing the RegEM method within a range of pseudo-proxy environments (including ECHO-G), would be more consistent with our understanding of the argreement between the SOAP partners.
Personally, we would also love to see the results repeated for the HadCM3 runs using RegEM and perhaps both also redone with the detrending step to demonstrate clearly, in multiple models, the impact of that step on the results. This is not to say that we would yet agree on detail of interpretation but this discussion, we feel, would be better in the context of a specific, stand alone paper, i.e. independent of the details and precedence of your debate with Hans and Eduardo. I hope you will accept that we gave this offer much consideration and now await your opinion.
Keith and Tim
Ha ha! Consider it stolen! :-)
1.The American mass media will ignore this story, or (if forced to cover it because of other countries' freer presses) they'll downplay it, hint that the emails are fakes, etc.
2.Most Americans get their news from ABC/CBS/NBC/MSNBC/CNN/(God help us) Jon Stewart's Daily Show etc. If these ignore or downplay it, it didn't happen.
3.If FOX ignores, it changes nothing. If FOX covers it, it changes nothing, because the obamabots call it FAUX news and ASSume it slants everything rightward, while the mainstream media is perfectly fair, balanced, and neutral.
4.Too much money is at stake (I'm talking about such "cures" as cap and trade, carbon credits, carbon trading, etc, if they're implemented).This money would go to the scientists who play along, the governments that tax, the NGOs that are to administer the anti AGW bodies, and to Third World countries full of melanin enhanced people. The money would be taken overwhelmingly from the working and middle class of countries in which the majority of the population (for now) is melanin deficient. This last is reason enough for the PTB to adore the AGW Fraud : It would make those racistsexistxenophobichomophobicneanderthals suffer the most.
5.The AGW myth is the key to enslaving humanity: That is the real point of cap and trade, huge tax increases, the Tobin tax (on free travel) carbon credits, the need for "extra governmental agencies" to oversee the machinery against "climate change"...No way will the would be enslavers of mankind allow anything to take away their power, right when it's in their grasp.
6.True Believers have too much of their self esteem wrapped up in believing in AGW. Look online at the crap posted about it: Those who believe in it truly believe that their belief proves they are smarter, better educated, and more caring than those who are "deniers". This also bosters antiAmericanism among European true believers. They WANT AGW to be true so they can go on feeling superior-they would be devastated to allow this to be taken away. If they even hear about this (see points1-3), they'll call the e mails spoofs, etc.
(Aristotle described all non Greeks as "natural slaves", because they willingly gave their freedom up to absolute monarchs. He believed Greeks therefore had a right if not a duty to enslave all mankind(sort of how moslems arrogate that right today). But even Aristotle thought that the "barbarians" didn't want to be slaves, and would fight back-he never imagined there would be such a thing as Volunteer Slaves. And that is precisely what the AGW True Believers are : volunteer slaves who WANT to give up their money and their freedom to 'save the planet', because it would make them feel good about themselves. )
You have some good points, but I’m more optimistic than you, for the simple fact that Global Warmism is *already* beginning to unravel. This just breaks a few more strands in a yarn that’s already tenuous.
By the way: press and government may ignore this more or less successfully, but it’s going to be tough for ACADEMICS to sweep it under the rug. Not impossible — but quite difficult. This sort of thing is embarrassment of nuclear proportions to academia. Continuing to embrace fraud when the cards are on the table in full public view is a career-killer.
Note that Ward Churchill was not brought down by his poisonous ideology, but by PLAGIARISM. And do you recall Michael Bellesiles, the darling of the anti-gun crowd, and his downfall due to academic dishonesty?
Ha ha! This is sounding more credible all the time.
Let’s hope they have some emails from American climatologists that will implicate them, too. Because they’re all in this scam together.
Stop it! I’m crying! I’m hoarse! My keyboard is full of coffee!
I’m suddenly not as hungry for lunch for some reason, however. :-)
What is amazing, the lack of public common sense, contrary empirical evidence, junk science and duplicitous behavior of scientists, political funding and public policy fraud The question to be asked, if they have been lying about this, what else is based on circumstantial relevance. Then what will be done to the political class and the corruption which they have pursued over the years. I would prefer for some scientific society to sue Al Gore for conspiracy to commit fraud, second, every time someone sees these political terrorists and Al Gore in public make a scene calling him the liars and human debris which they represent.